Re: Retrieving output submitted by surrogates

2013-03-06 Thread Robin Atwod
Walt, Thanks, you have confirmed what we were thinking here. We will try and test this today. Regards -Robin -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Walt Farrell Sent: 07 March 2013 00:21 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject

SHARE Requirements (Was: Where current HLASM doc?)

2013-03-06 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 3/6/2013 5:17 PM, Clark Morris wrote: Should there be a SHARE requirement that all APARs that update documentation also cause an update to the related manuals? In these days of electronic documents, that should be relatively inexpensive and not cause a massive distribution of paper manuals.

Re: Current HLASM doc

2013-03-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 21:45:07 -0800, John R. Ehrman (408-463-3543 T/543-) wrote: >To determine what's been added via PTF to YOUR copy of HLASM, specify >the INFO option. It will show the new mnemonics as well as various >fixes. > Neat! Thanks. Does it tell me what new parameter values have been a

Current HLASM doc

2013-03-06 Thread John R. Ehrman (408-463-3543 T/543-)
To determine what's been added via PTF to YOUR copy of HLASM, specify the INFO option. It will show the new mnemonics as well as various fixes. John Ehrman -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send e

Re: Reality check on LOAD + Rexx LINKPGM

2013-03-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 19:07:30 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: > >Ah, but of course! (And I think I did say "+ DELETE" in the OP.) > You did (parenthetically, now that I reread it.) >> If the module expects OS CALL linkage conventions, use LINKMVS rather than >> LINKPGM > >..., LINKPGM was a studied ch

Re: Reality check on LOAD + Rexx LINKPGM

2013-03-06 Thread Charles Mills
Thank you. I shall get loaded forthwith. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Skip Robinson Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 3:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Reality check on LOAD + Rexx LINKPGM You

Re: Reality check on LOAD + Rexx LINKPGM

2013-03-06 Thread Charles Mills
> Do you DELETE it when you're finished? Ah, but of course! (And I think I did say "+ DELETE" in the OP.) > If the module expects OS CALL linkage conventions, use LINKMVS rather than > LINKPGM FSVO OS CALL Linkage conventions. LINKMVS puts halfword lengths on ALL parameters. That is the conven

Re: Reality check on LOAD + Rexx LINKPGM

2013-03-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:31:35 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >... >I then use Rexx ADDRESS LINKPGM to call the module. ... > Afterthought: If the module expects OS CALL linkage conventions, use LINKMVS rather than LINKPGM. You can fake it, and more, with LINKPGM, but why reinvent the wheel? -- g

Re: Reality check on LOAD + Rexx LINKPGM

2013-03-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:31:35 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: > >As I have it coded now the Rexx first calls a little assembler stub that I >happened to already have that issues an MVS LOAD. > >I then use Rexx ADDRESS LINKPGM to call the module. LINKPGM makes the LOAD >technically redundant, ... > >Would

Re: Where current HLASM doc?

2013-03-06 Thread Clark Morris
On 5 Mar 2013 15:31:23 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >On Tue, 5 Mar 2013 16:16:50 -0500, John Gilmore wrote: >> >>It does not much interest IBM's management, I suspect because it is >>not the focus of 'interesting' activity. Moreover, it is not a profit >>center. It generates no ide

Re: Newer HLASM functions (was ...)

2013-03-06 Thread Tony Harminc
On 3 March 2013 11:51, Ed Jaffe wrote: > On 3/3/2013 8:19 AM, Peter Relson wrote: >> >> For what it's worth, IHASDWA was enhanced in z/OS 1.11 with a GR32=NO|YES >> option so that if you must use the HLASM optional function, you can do so. > > We will change every IHASDWA in every software product

Re: Reality check on LOAD + Rexx LINKPGM

2013-03-06 Thread Skip Robinson
You have our blessing. Go forth and LOAD. ;-) . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From: Charles Mills To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, Date: 03/

Re: Debug Tool with Subprograms

2013-03-06 Thread George Young
On 2/22/2013 7:26 AM, Donald Likens wrote: In case anyone has a better idea I am documenting my solution... I see no way to set a break point before starting the program, so what I am doing is as follows: LOAD INITPGM; LDD INITPGM; AT ENTRY INITPGM BEGIN; set break points; END; Not

Reality check on LOAD + Rexx LINKPGM

2013-03-06 Thread Charles Mills
I have a Rexx program (bigger than a "script") that is going to call a module whose name will come from a customer-specified parameter file. As I have it coded now the Rexx first calls a little assembler stub that I happened to already have that issues an MVS LOAD. I then use Rexx ADDRESS LINKPGM

Re: Flash Cards on MVS

2013-03-06 Thread Karl Huf
Ed - I'm assuming you are referencing the Flash Express feature introduced on the zEC12 and not flash storage as used in storage controllers (DS8000, EMC DMX, etc). We don't have first hand experience with flash, yet, but from the various webcalls I sat in on during the announcement cycle and u

Re: Vary off path

2013-03-06 Thread Don Williams
As my father-in-law likes to say, when they make me king... 8-) For LPARs with no active operating system, the HMC should be able to simply vary resources logically on and off at will. For LPARs with an active operating system, the HMC should signal the operating system a request to logically va

Re: DSNE106E message on DB2 batch job

2013-03-06 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Check SYSIBM.SYSPLSYSTEM catalog table and make sure you have the right value in column "SYSTEM" for the plan SELECT * FROM SYSIBM.SYSPLSYSTEM WHERE NAME = 'TRANSLD' ; The SYSIBM.SYSPLSYSTEM table layout is explained here http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/dzichelp/v2r2/index.jsp?topic=%2Fc

Re: Where current HLASM doc?

2013-03-06 Thread Ed Gould
John, I think your numbers are pretty much OK, We also used asmH (IEV90) for something unique. Its too long and intricate to go into here. Suffice it to say we had clerks creating SQL "like" inquiries )asm H macros) and would run these in a batch mode that would take 48 hours or more (elaps

Re: Flash Cards on MVS

2013-03-06 Thread Ed Gould
David: Thanks! The search on IBM.com was hopeless and google was the same. The book chapter didn't answer all my questions directly but enough to go back to the originator and assure him it is not an issue. Ed On Mar 6, 2013, at 6:20 AM, Jousma, David wrote: Ed, If you are speaking of the

DSNE106E message on DB2 batch job

2013-03-06 Thread william janulin
To list;   I have a batch job that is getting an error message: DSNE106E PLAN TRANSLD NOT AUTHORIZED FOR SUBSYSTEM DB8G AND AUTH ID IBMUSER  This is also happening on another plan name TRANSPD. I did a GRANT EXECUTE on both plans to the userid of PUBLIC.  Not sure where to go next on this. I

Re: Where current HLASM doc?

2013-03-06 Thread Charles Mills
Is this list not an appropriate forum for any mainframe topic? In my experience, you are more likely to get a useful response to a question here than on one of the more specialized lists. I suppose another good reason is that I am not on the assembler list. I have little interest these days in

Re: Where current HLASM doc?

2013-03-06 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 3/6/2013 9:20 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: F Assembler? Assembler VS? Assembler VS was known as IFOX00, IIRC. I once had a manual that explained the differences. It got left behind in a move. I've never heard IFOX00 called the VS assembler; it's always been the XF assembler in my crowd. The

Re: Where current HLASM doc?

2013-03-06 Thread Lloyd Fuller
And you could get the SLAC mods for H Assembler which made it MUCH more usable. Thanks, Greg. :-) In fact many of the feature upgrades from H Assembler to HLASM came from the SLAC mods descriptions as we wrote SHARE requirements for those features. Lloyd - Original Message From: Jo

Re: Vary off path

2013-03-06 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Don Williams wrote: >IIRC, it is strongly advised to never use the HMC single object operations to >vary a CHP when the related LPARs have operating systems running in them. Agreed. One of our operators did something to a Production LPAR instead to a Sandbox LPAR from HMC. Lots of Ouch-ouch-ou

Re: TN3270 I/P Access fails after IPL

2013-03-06 Thread Donald J.
Check that LP #'s are correct for each LPAR. Looks similar to this: http://bit.listserv.ibm-main.narkive.com/NJ8Hqmgn/osa -- Donald J. dona...@4email.net On Tue, Mar 5, 2013, at 01:43 PM, Tom Trainor wrote: > I have four(4) LPARS on a single CHPID for an Ethernet CHPID defined as > OSE (no

Re: Vary off path

2013-03-06 Thread Don Williams
IIRC, it is strongly advised to never use the HMC single object operations to vary a CHP when the related LPARs have operating systems running in them. Alas, I wish that all operating systems were designed/required to gracefully handle the HMC varying resources on and off line. > -Original Me

Re: Retirement

2013-03-06 Thread Rouse, Willie
Theorem: Once a Marine always a Marine. Corollary: Once a sysprog always a sysprog. Good Luck and enjoy yourself :-) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 11:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN

Retirement

2013-03-06 Thread Eric Bielefeld
About a month ago I said I might quietly drop off the list. I'm still here, enjoying my 3rd week of retirement. I do find that I read less posts, especially if I don't sign on till noon or later and have 30 or 40 in my inbox. Since I probably won't work anymore, at least as a systems progra

Re: Where current HLASM doc?

2013-03-06 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 09:15:39 -0600, Jim Elliott, IBM wrote: >On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 07:46:08 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote: > >>It would be nice if the page at >>http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/jelliott/cmosproc.html >>would be updated to include the HLASM opcode table that is >>appropriate for each model.

Re: Retrieving output submitted by surrogates

2013-03-06 Thread Walt Farrell
On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 21:14:13 +0800, Robin Atwod wrote: >This is a rather arcane topic but hopefully one of you out there might have >some insight. I am working on a problem where a customer uses our >application to submit jobs to JES2, and then, when the output is available, >the application reads

Re: Where current HLASM doc?

2013-03-06 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks for that PSP link, now bookmarked. Once again I am proven incorrect, but that's why I keep reading this list. I'm also not sure access to the PSP buckets will help to enlighten me very much, but it is interesting nonetheless. Peter P.S. - Also thanks for the button link! -Origina

Re: Flash Cards on MVS

2013-03-06 Thread Jousma, David
I guess I could expand on this some more. zEC12 is the only built-in solution I am aware of. Don't think there is anything that will co-exist with it in the market, now or probably ever. That being said, I am aware that DASD vendors market solid-state disk, which present to the operating sy

Re: Where current HLASM doc?

2013-03-06 Thread John Gilmore
The usual suspects would be responding even if this thread were moved to the assembler list. The only effect at this late point in time would be to fracture the archives. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN sub

Re: Where current HLASM doc?

2013-03-06 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 08:20:20 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >Why is this discussion taking place here ratner than on >ASSEMBLER-LIST? Because the OP asked his question on this list. Does it make sense to move it to another list? -- Tom Marchant --

Re: Where current HLASM doc?

2013-03-06 Thread Jim Elliott, IBM
On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 07:46:08 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote: >HLASM hasn't really changed. It would be nice if the page at >http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/jelliott/cmosproc.html >would be updated to include the HLASM opcode table that is >appropriate for each model. It would also be nice if the HLA

Re: Vary off path

2013-03-06 Thread Mark Pace
Thanks everyone. The CF command was what I needed. On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Jousma, David wrote: > The CF command as issued as a z/OS command only configures it off to that > LPAR. If you go to the HMC single object operations, and do it there, it > will take it offline to all images.

Re: Vary off path

2013-03-06 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-03-06 15:17, Mark Pace pisze: As I understand it the CF command will vary the physical CHPID offline to all LPARs, not just logically to the z/OS LPAR. I could be wrong about that. If it does do it physically I can wait until the other LPARs have varied their paths offline and then

Re: Vary off path

2013-03-06 Thread Jousma, David
The CF command as issued as a z/OS command only configures it off to that LPAR. If you go to the HMC single object operations, and do it there, it will take it offline to all images. _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainfram

Re: Where current HLASM doc?

2013-03-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
Why is this discussion taking place here ratner than on ASSEMBLER-LIST? On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 09:02:31 -0500, John Gilmore wrote: >The H Assembler at least was once charged for. > >The cost was always nominal, US$150 per month is what I remember, but >I should not wish to be hanged if that number is

Re: Vary off path

2013-03-06 Thread Mark Pace
As I understand it the CF command will vary the physical CHPID offline to all LPARs, not just logically to the z/OS LPAR. I could be wrong about that. If it does do it physically I can wait until the other LPARs have varied their paths offline and then I'll use the CF command. On Wed, Mar 6, 20

Re: Vary off path

2013-03-06 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Mwah, 20 ranges in a command script is doable. But, why don't you just CONFIG the 2 CHPIDs OFF per LPAR? z/OS will handle this without problems. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Wednesday, March 06,

Re: Where current HLASM doc?

2013-03-06 Thread John Gilmore
The H Assembler at least was once charged for. The cost was always nominal, US$150 per month is what I remember, but I should not wish to be hanged if that number is wrong. It was widely used because it did SYSGENs, NCPGENs, and the like very much faster than the F Assembler. John Gilmore, Ashla

Re: Vary off path

2013-03-06 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Mark Pace wrote: >Not really, I have 10 control units with 4 CPHIDs, I need to vary off 2 of >the CHPID. That's a lot of ranges. What about CF CHP(xx),OFFLINE? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht PS: It is a lng time ago I did that command... --

Re: Retrieving output submitted by surrogates

2013-03-06 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Robin Atwod wrote: >but when I try to pick up the output, I get RC=4, nothing found. From where? SYSLOG or result of the SAPI macro(s) usage? >MVI SSS2SEL2,SSS2SCRE >MVC SSS2CREA,USERID Geez, it took me some time to get the definition of SSS2SEL2 in Bookmanager... ;-) >Which implies what I

Re: Where current HLASM doc?

2013-03-06 Thread John Eells
Paul Gilmartin wrote: I had understood that, new with MVS/XA, HLASM was not "'given away' as a part of the operating system", but a separately priced prerequisite. Has that changed, or was I mistaken? The 1980's were a long time ago (smile), and I'm not going to look up the history of wheth

Re: Where current HLASM doc?

2013-03-06 Thread Tom Marchant
>Thank you for that link. I was not aware that IBM made closed APAR >documentation available to the public. > >I still think it is wrong for two major machine upgrades to have occurred and >yet none of the HLASM manuals was updated. > HLASM hasn't really changed. It would be nice if the page a

Re: Vary off path

2013-03-06 Thread Mark Pace
Not really, I have 10 control units with 4 CPHIDs, I need to vary off 2 of the CHPID. That's a lot of ranges. On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote: > You can specify a range of devices, does this help? > > Kees. > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discus

Re: Vary off path

2013-03-06 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
You can specify a range of devices, does this help? Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 14:31 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Vary off path Is there an easy way to VAR

Vary off path

2013-03-06 Thread Mark Pace
Is there an easy way to VARY off a path? Looking at the commands manual it looks like you have to vary off the path to each device. In z/VM we can vary off a path to every device. VARY OFF PATH D3 TO ALL VARY OFF CHPID D3 I want to vary off the path and the chpid logically, I don't want to physi

Retrieving output submitted by surrogates

2013-03-06 Thread Robin Atwod
From: Robin Atwood Sent: 06 March 2013 21:12 To: 'IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU' Subject: Retrieving output submitted by surrogates This is a rather arcane topic but hopefully one of you out there might have some insight. I am working on a problem where a customer uses our application to subm

Re: Flash Cards on MVS

2013-03-06 Thread Jousma, David
Ed, If you are speaking of the new zEC12, with the Flash Express option, A couple things come to mind, but I have no direct knowledge because we don't have Flash Express. - It is a feature code of the zEC12. So only IBM parts, no OEM - Since it is a feature code of the zEC12, it would be co