Re: SSD tiering benefits

2013-08-12 Thread k Zaf
Thanks for your answer Lizette We are using various tools like IBM RMF ASG TMONZOS in z/OS running SMS HSM. We actually want to tier some very utilized DB2 v9.1 workload to SSD and keep all the rest running in spinning VMAX 15000 rpm disks. I am very interesting in forecasting any potential

Re: List all dataset in system by HLQ

2013-08-12 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Victor Hugo Ochoa Avila wrote: I want to know if it is possible to list all datasets on the system but I'm just interested to obtain the list by the HLQ. Yes. It is possible. Like Lizette kindly said, there are many ways to do that. I would like to add: If you have good RACF controls

Re: SSD tiering benefits

2013-08-12 Thread Lizette Koehler
With the VMAX there are some areas of concern. What is your cache hit ratio? What is your CMR time? In my shop we are either on SSD or not for DB2. So for all production DB2 tables they are on SSD and not tiered. In fact, we do not use tiering from EMC for VMAX for the mainframe. We are using

Re: List all dataset in system by HLQ

2013-08-12 Thread John Eells
At the risk of giving you an answer that might not do what you want, this will list all the cataloged data sets: //JOB //LIST EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSINDD * LISTCAT LEVEL(SYS1) ALL /* // Assuming you have authority to do so, that will list the data sets starting

Re: Why computer languages need to have specific parsing rules and exact semantics.

2013-08-12 Thread Peter Eggebeen
Just saw this in a skymall catalog :) Commas save lives Can we eat gramma? Can we eat, gramma? Pete Eggebeen Senior Systems Engineer Mainframe Storage Management Kohl's Corporation (920) 207-0108 (Cell) On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Bernd Oppolzer bernd.oppol...@t-online.dewrote: I

Re: Why computer languages need to have specific parsing rules and exact semantics.

2013-08-12 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Peter Eggebeen wrote: Commas save lives Of course. If you forget a comma in something like ATCCONxx, your life is in grave peril. Can we eat gramma? Can we eat, gramma? :-) Mommy, grandma is awful! Shutup, hurry up and eat up! :-) Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht

Re: List all dataset in system by HLQ

2013-08-12 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
John Eells wrote: At the risk of giving you an answer that might not do what you want, this will list all the cataloged data sets: No risk. :-) After re-reading OP's question, I now see his question is somewhat ambiguous. Especially after I observed a space between the dot and the star, like

Re: List all dataset in system by HLQ

2013-08-12 Thread Eric Bielefeld
There was a program on the CBT site that allowed you to list all datasets. Unfortuneately, I can't remember the name of it. It might have been called SUPRLIST? If I remember, at the beginning of the list it listed every high level qualifier, and the total number of datasets that started with

Re: List all dataset in system by HLQ

2013-08-12 Thread Lizette Koehler
I actually thought he was looking for all HLQs. But beyond that I do not know what he wants to do with the data. If he just wants the HLQs, you can do that with LISTC ENT(mastercat) ALIAS Turn off your TSO Profile first or run in batch. or LISTC ALIAS ALL (this should be

Re: VISARA Consoles FICON Get 505, 510

2013-08-12 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-07-29 01:01, Ron Wells pisze: Dummy question but what about OSC's still valid for Console support? Some shops use STK Silo - an ATL (tape robot). This robot used to communicate via COAX port, so neither OSA-ICC nor 2074 would be a solution for that. Notes: 1. Silo is old

Re: z/TPF question

2013-08-12 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-08-10 00:39, Ed Jaffe pisze: On 8/9/2013 10:13 AM, Sam Siegel wrote: Hi - Does anyone know if zIIP engines can be used with z/TPF? AFAIK, zAAP and zIIP are intended for z/OS only, ICF is intended for CFCC only, and IFL is intended for Linux only. Well, all the processors above

Re: List all dataset in system by HLQ

2013-08-12 Thread Matthew Stitt
You have just reminded me of DADSM, which is located on file 527 of the CBT tape. That program could list all datasets found on all online volumes and did give a space summary by volume and HLQ. There is also an option to list only certain volumes. On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 09:15:35 -0500, Eric

Re: List all dataset in system by HLQ

2013-08-12 Thread Mark Zelden
Another program on the CBT that can do it is the VTOC command - File 112. I also have a REXX program on my web site and CBT file 434 called VTOCTOT that reads the output from the VTOC command and creates totals by HLQ. VTOCTOT is in the programs section of my web site (url below).

Re: Why computer languages need to have specific parsing rules and exact semantics.

2013-08-12 Thread Charles Mills
A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then pulls out a gun and shoots the waiter. Why? groans the injured man. The panda shrugs and walks out, tossing a badly punctuated wildlife manual over his shoulder. When the waiter consults the book, he finds the explanation for this

z/OS 1.13 Last date to order ServerPac

2013-08-12 Thread Ken Porowski
Anyone know the cutoff date for ordering z/OS 1.13 via ServerPac? [CIT.com]http://www.cit.com Ken Porowski VP Mainframe Engineering Information Technology +1 973 740 5459 (tel) mailto:{{smtp:sender}}ken.porow...@cit.commailto:ken.porow...@cit.com One CIT Drive

Re: List all dataset in system by HLQ

2013-08-12 Thread efinnell15
Venerable PDS cmd can do most of this. HLQ mask, VOL, PUB, PRI or STOR. ISMF has similar stuff if you can get the columns sorted outvbg. Break on Totals comes to mind for some reason... In a message dated 08/12/13 11:36:02 Central Daylight Time, mathwst...@bellsouth.net writes: You have just

Re: MVS ROUTE command is a bad influence on DB2 ERLY code

2013-08-12 Thread Jim Mooney
Thanks, Peter, The reason I didn't include that detail is because I didn't think it was relevant to the question: Why does ROUTE change the results of -DB2T,REFRESH,EARLY. This command executes on the same lpar after being ROUTed from a remote lpar. It's surprising to me that simply routing

Re: MVS ROUTE command is a bad influence on DB2 ERLY code

2013-08-12 Thread Jim Mooney
Sorry, I just noticed that I left out the commands we issued to STOP DB2 in my scenario. There were issued 1) before the linklst UPDATE (that's why I said they were terminating), and 2) before each REFRESH,EARLY command. And of course, you can assume START DB2 commands were issued.

Re: List all dataset in system by HLQ

2013-08-12 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Yes - DADSM is the program I was thinking of. I knew someone would know the right one. Eric Bielefeld z/OS Systems Programmer Milwaukee, Wisconsin 414-475-7434 - Original Message - From: Matthew Stitt mathwst...@bellsouth.net Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To:

Re: z10 Memory

2013-08-12 Thread Dazzo, Matt
I'd be very leery of 3rd party vendor hardware support. That was tried here once to try and save money, our ATL/VTS device was down for 5 days before they admitted they were lost. We had to have IBM come in and save the day, that took another 2 days. Hence, the manager is not here any longer,

Re: z10 Memory

2013-08-12 Thread John McKown
We use SMS. My considers them quite decent. Not as fast as IBM things, especially our 3585 ATL and 3494 VTS. But I do know that they have worked on those and resolved our problems in as timely a manner as we allow. They are only allowed to touch things in a small window on Sundays, unless the

IBM Redbooks | Faster DB2 Performance with IBM FlashSystem

2013-08-12 Thread efinnell15
IBM Redbooks | Faster DB2 Performance with IBM FlashSystem This is a pretty good overview(and fairly recent). The trick is what Ray Wicks used to call the 'Big Pitcher';i.e. storage, CPU, DASD, paging subsystem. I googled a little while but didn't find a current reference to sizing processor,

Re: z10 Memory

2013-08-12 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-08-12 21:11, Dazzo, Matt pisze: I'd be very leery of 3rd party vendor hardware support. That was tried here once to try and save money, our ATL/VTS device was down for 5 days before they admitted they were lost. We had to have IBM come in and save the day, that took another 2

Re: z10 Memory

2013-08-12 Thread Eric Bielefeld
We had 3rd party coverage most of the time that I worked at PH Mining. I think it was about half to a third of the cost of IBM service. I think the IBM service was better, but I think that the money saved justified the results. I remember one time when the card punch was down for several

z/OS 1.13 Last date to order ServerPac

2013-08-12 Thread Ken Porowski
Anyone know the cutoff date for ordering z/OS 1.13 via ServerPac? Ken Porowski VP Mainframe Engineering CIT Information Technology +1 973 740 5459 (tel) One CIT Drive Livingston, NJ 07039 ken.porow...@cit.com www.cit.com This email message and any accompanying materials may contain

Re: List all dataset in system by HLQ

2013-08-12 Thread Mitch
Would it be equally important to find out those that are not used, and/or where/when they are used? Mitch McCluhan, Legacy Modernization Consultant -Original Message- From: Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Mon, Aug 12, 2013 12:08 pm

Re: Why computer languages need to have specific parsing rules and exact semantics.

2013-08-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 13:30:13 -0400, Charles Mills wrote: -- http://www.fun-with-words.com/eats_shoots_leaves_review.html Somewhat related, there's a strong argument against quiet truncation of input lines or identifiers to some conventional length. Imagine: DELETE MY.DATA.SET(MEMBER)

Re: List all dataset in system by HLQ

2013-08-12 Thread efinnell15
Your storage management should take care of it. If they're not used they'll get archived. If they're on system packs there's probably a reason. Our only casuality from Y2K was the bleepin 19yr old fiche machine. Fortunately the source was readily available and were able to fix in a couple of

Re: Why computer languages need to have specific parsing rules and exact semantics.

2013-08-12 Thread zMan
Wow, yeah. That would be Just Plain BAD. If you're gonna truncate, you can't do it quietly. On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote: On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 13:30:13 -0400, Charles Mills wrote: -- http://www.fun-with-words.com/eats_shoots_leaves_review.html