On Apr 13, 2015, at 6:01 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
I may not have stated that as I meant it - I did try to indicate my
meaning by using "that . . . horse *of yours* . . .", intending to
mean just him and not all. Not well written, mea culpa, but it was
a rant.
I have encountered ot
On Apr 13, 2015, at 4:16 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In <552bc59e.1010...@vse2pdf.com>, on 04/13/2015
at 09:33 AM, Tony Thigpen said:
Ed must work for the government, or a union shop. No place I ever
worked would have allowed such programmers to continue to be
employed.
I've see
I may not have stated that as I meant it - I did try to indicate my meaning by
using "that . . . horse *of yours* . . .", intending to mean just him and not
all. Not well written, mea culpa, but it was a rant.
I have encountered other systems programmers of that type throughout my career,
but
It's like one of the hardware networking guys telling me that the router
tables can't be corrupted. This happened right after they applied a router
firmware/software fix, my reply 'say what'
On Monday, April 13, 2015, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net> wrote:
> In <552bc
>- What is "on input" as described under NOPFD?
That is on input to a statement, before a statement starts operating on
the data.
>- Which allowed behavior of COBOL 5.2 is closer to MIG: NOPFD or PFD?
It depends on what behavior you mean, but for preferred sign correction
you need NNUMPR
>I read the APAR and Tom Ross's SHARE presentation and have the
>following question.
>
>05 FIELD-CSP PIC S999 PACKED-DECIMAL.
>
>If FIELD-CSP contains x'123f', for NUMPROC(PFD),ZD(MIG) will FIELD-CSP
>be NUMERIC in an IF NUMERIC test? So far as I can tell CSP and its
>descendants will generate t
In <552bc59e.1010...@vse2pdf.com>, on 04/13/2015
at 09:33 AM, Tony Thigpen said:
>Ed must work for the government, or a union shop. No place I ever
>worked would have allowed such programmers to continue to be
>employed.
I've seen them in commercial, educational and government shops, but Ed
In
<985915eee6984740ae93f8495c624c6c2368d57...@jscpcwexmaa1.bsg.ad.adp.com>,
on 04/13/2015
at 09:21 AM, "Farley, Peter x23353"
said:
>Please get off that ridiculously high systems programmer horse of
>yours and join us here in the 21st century.
You almost had me their, but it seems that you a
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 10:22:40 -0700, Sam Siegel wrote:
>Agreed. There are good and bad on both sides of that line.
This reminded me of something that Phil Payne wrote several years ago.
Hope you find it amusing.
Tom Marchant
Subject: Re: (OTR) Fixing the user
From: Phil Payne
Reply-To: ibm-m..
Note that ISMF will default to 'User mode 1 (end user)' which doesn't allow you
to list offline volumes.
If you're getting 'TYPE NOT ALLOWED' in 2.1 then go to option 0.0 and set
yourself to User Mode 2 (Storage Admin). You might need to obtain the necessary
security profile to allow this.
Ba
Agreed. There are good and bad on both sides of that line.
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Graham Hobbs wrote:
> Seconded.
> All the business systems in the world seem to work just fine so they must
> have been written by systems programmers:-D
>
> On 2015-04-13 9:21 AM, Farley, Peter x23353
Seconded.
All the business systems in the world seem to work just fine so they
must have been written by systems programmers:-D
On 2015-04-13 9:21 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
Sorry for this rant but I just had to step in on this conversation. That is
the most hoary, antiquated, and preju
On Apr 13, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Tony Thigpen wrote:
amen, Peter.
Ed must work for the government, or a union shop. No place I ever
worked would have allowed such programmers to continue to be employed.
Of course, on second thought, I have seen some really, really bad
stuff coming out of the
W dniu 2015-04-13 o 03:36, Timothy Sipples pisze:
The Wheelers wrote:
SONY 185tbyte last year not announced for mainframe.
You are correct. Sony did not announce that. It would be equally correct
and at least as relevant to point out that Sony also did not announce:
* a tape drive;
* completed
If you're too lazy to look up syntax, use
===>ds qd,?
After a bit can go thru all the strings and cut and paste into spread sheet
for future reference.
In a message dated 4/13/2015 5:13:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
justmainfra...@gmail.com writes:
I tried with DS QD,TCHN02,99 but no
For it to start working would be unusual.
Did an IPL occur?
Did someone activate the SCDS?
Did someone do a TRANSLATE/TEST/ACTIVATE?
Trying to debug SMS code is an art. And usually very specific to the shop.
Without seeing the code or define statements would make it very difficult
for the list t
amen, Peter.
Ed must work for the government, or a union shop. No place I ever worked
would have allowed such programmers to continue to be employed.
Of course, on second thought, I have seen some really, really bad stuff
coming out of the code-mills in India and China.
Tony Thigpen
Farley
Jake,
I am a little confused. Did you go into ISMF and see what option to use or did
you just ask the question?
the reason I ask is when you go into ISMF there are a couple of options right
on the panel
DATASET
VOLUME
And if you select VOLUME you would see
Find by ONLINE, OFFLINE, BOTH
A sect
In
<2355787451595524.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu>,
on 04/13/2015
at 04:41 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht
said:
>Simply, if you receive data, say x'0A0B0CF1F2F3', then how would
>you see, programmatically, it is ASCII or EBCDIC?
That isn't an ASCII issue, it's a part of the issu
Sorry for this rant but I just had to step in on this conversation. That is
the most hoary, antiquated, and prejudiced set of statements about application
programmers that I think I have ever seen you make. I remember making stupid
mistakes when I was a junior programmer and needing to ask for
ISMF
=2.1
.
On Apr 13, 2015, at 08:44, Doug wrote:
How about D U,VOL=??
.
On Apr 13, 2015, at 06:13, Jake Anderson wrote:
I tried with DS QD,TCHN02,99 but no luck
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Ed Finnell <
000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> If you don't have
How about D U,VOL=??
.
On Apr 13, 2015, at 06:13, Jake Anderson wrote:
I tried with DS QD,TCHN02,99 but no luck
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Ed Finnell <
000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> If you don't have duplicate VOLSERs, do you have a ballpark?
>
> >DS
I did all that. I had a WRITE at the start of the routine and it was not
issued.
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 05:08:42 -0500 Elardus Engelbrecht
wrote:
:>Binyamin Dissen wrote:
:>
:>>Very strange - all of a sudden it started working. As if there was an
internal list of available volumes that expired.
:>
If you are running z/OS 2.1:
DS QD,,256,OFFLINE
where is your lowest DASD disk device address. You may need to repeat
this, incrementing by x'100' each time. until you find the volume, since
256 is the maximum number of device addresses you can display.
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 15:43
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Ed Gould wrote:
> Ze'ev:
> Because in most cases programmers are less than lets say bright. If you
> bring up ASCII you will only confuse them. I suspect they will try and use
> it in some sort of horrendous fashion, like convert to ASCII and then back.
> To give
Hello Ed,
Do you use any Macro 4 products (Tubes, DumpMaster, TraceMaster, InSync,
to name a few)?
If you do then our z/Explorer Eclipse offering is free to use. It
provides access to z/OS datasets and Unix files, allows jobs to be
submitted and the JES spool to be viewed without SDSF as a pre-req
Is the Volume online on another LPAR?
Just look there.
The second parameter of the DS command is the device address, not its volser.
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To
I tried with DS QD,TCHN02,99 but no luck
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Ed Finnell <
000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> If you don't have duplicate VOLSERs, do you have a ballpark?
>
> >DS QD,,nn
>
>
> In a message dated 4/13/2015 4:19:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time
Binyamin Dissen wrote:
>Very strange - all of a sudden it started working. As if there was an internal
>list of available volumes that expired.
Did you got the same symptoms when testing out your routines?
Ok, since you have resolved it, but, in the future, if you are again getting
problems,
If you don't have duplicate VOLSERs, do you have a ballpark?
>DS QD,,nn
In a message dated 4/13/2015 4:19:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
justmainfra...@gmail.com writes:
Hello,
One of a volume is offline to an LPAR. I am unable to determine its device
number to vary on.
Could so
Sorry about the delay in my response. I was on a short vacation.
Not sure about need, but I specified both.
Bob
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Elardus Engelbrecht
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 10:39 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@
Ze'ev Atlas wrote:
>Why is getting an ASCII piece of information so scary? And why would handling
>it using proper programming, any scary?
Simply, if you receive data, say x'0A0B0CF1F2F3', then how would you see,
programmatically, it is ASCII or EBCDIC?
With TRT or friends? I had to avoid a s
Peter Relson wrote:
>I don't think there's a general answer. It depends what you're thinking of
>with respect to "interrelated". If you mean that both are needed in order to
>accomplish the requirement, then "together" would make sense to me. If
>they're interrelated such as "just" by belongin
Hello,
One of a volume is offline to an LPAR. I am unable to determine its device
number to vary on.
Could someone please guide me on how to fetch the Device number based
Volume Serial ?
I understand it can be fetched using ISMF but I am not able to get the
option to use within ISMF.
Jake
I would be looking at z/OSMF REST services. As a http based interface,
it seems likely to be easier to integrate into Eclipse etc. than FTP,
and also has more functions.
I am not 100% sure that the jobs interface works without SDSF, but I
think it is likely.
Andrew Rowley
Black Hill Software
WARNING: I don't have any experience with Eclipse, z/OS explorer and the other
things mentioned by Ed Long.
Ed Long wrote:
>I can get z/OS explorer to submit jcl, a requirement for some database
>activities envisioned. Its builtin sysout retrieval function requires SDSF and
>fairly heavy RACF
Iris Rivera wrote:
>Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I will do some research to see
>if and how we can disable this message.
I have no problems using your survey. In fact, I used the same surveygizmo for
another survey as posted regurlarly in RACF-L.
I'm just surprised that at some
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