Re: Where can a running TSO program get its terminal name

2015-05-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 007f01d0935a$fdc4feb0$f94efc10$@mcn.org, on 05/20/2015 at 05:13 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: Thanks all for your suggestions. In the hope of helping a future Googler, here is How to Use GTTERM from an AMODE 31 Program. Why the complexity? As long a there's no RMODE24

Re: Did I really need a CLIST???

2015-05-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In sn1pr0101mb1520bae39916b66f20e5190cce...@sn1pr0101mb1520.prod.exchangelabs.com, on 05/20/2015 at 01:14 PM, J O Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com said: Shmuel, when was the last time you needed to process data LIFO? The last time that I used REXX stack abilities. If anything, I use

Re: Is there a good EBCDIC IBM-1047 Emulator?

2015-05-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5452005464765533.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 05/15/2015 at 02:56 PM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: I always thought of Latin 1 as ISO8859-1 It is, but Don presumably meant that IBM-1047 was the EBCDIC equivalent to ISO-8859-1. --

Re: Did I really need a CLIST???

2015-05-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 6407793781448887.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 05/20/2015 at 10:25 AM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: CMS/TSO Pipelines embodies a similar absurdity: It's not absurd if it doe what it was designed for. Now, if there isn't a command similar

Re: Is there a good EBCDIC IBM-1047 Emulator?

2015-05-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5559c7e4.7000...@gmail.com, on 05/18/2015 at 07:07 PM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com said: For non-Vista users What about those not runing any flavor or windoze? What are the best TN3270 clients for eCS and Linux? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO

Re: Did I really need a CLIST???

2015-05-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 555ca11e.4000...@tombrennansoftware.com, on 05/20/2015 at 07:58 AM, Tom Brennan t...@tombrennansoftware.com said: J O Skip Robinson wrote: Coding subcommands in reverse order just to save one letter in each REXX command would be absurd. Completely you with agree I, Skip. Is there a

Re: Central Florida z/OS people

2015-05-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 555bd985.2020...@vse2pdf.com, on 05/19/2015 at 08:47 PM, Tony Thigpen t...@vse2pdf.com said: Yep, they don't pay me for my spelling skills, Thst's why I use spill Czech. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Notify for XMIT

2015-05-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 555c9bbd.4030...@acm.org, on 05/20/2015 at 09:35 AM, Joel Ewing jcew...@acm.org said: My recollection is that the immediate bailout from the CLIST and from batch TSO on a non-zero TSO command processor RC only occurred for commands running directly under the batch TMP TCB That's a

SMS primary vsam space allocation

2015-05-22 Thread Ward, Mike S
Hello all, I know this is late on Friday before a three day weekend, however, I'm stumped by a problem. We have some vsam files that have a primary allocation of 398 cyls and a secondary of 398 cyls. The primary extent that is displayed with in a listcat says that it is 11940 wihich is double

Re: SMS primary vsam space allocation

2015-05-22 Thread Doug
SMS consolidated the primary with secondary because they were allocated back to back Doug . On May 22, 2015, at 17:10, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote: Hello all, I know this is late on Friday before a three day weekend, however, I'm stumped by a problem. We have some vsam files that have

Re: SMS primary vsam space allocation

2015-05-22 Thread retired mainframer
Just out of curiosity, how do you know what the primary allocation was at the time the dataset was allocated? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 2:11 PM To:

Re: SMS primary vsam space allocation

2015-05-22 Thread Doug
Reread your post, I don't know if listcat should do that, just that if space is available for a second extent right behind , vsam will put the together as one . On May 22, 2015, at 17:13, Doug dsh...@bellsouth.net wrote: SMS consolidated the primary with secondary because they were

Re: SMS primary vsam space allocation

2015-05-22 Thread Greg Shirey
z/OS 1.5 introduced extent consolidation. The following is from z/OS DFSMS Using Data Sets SC23-6855-00: VSAM Extent Consolidation The system consolidates adjacent extents for VSAM data sets when extending on the same volume. VSAM extent consolidation is automatic and requires no action

Re: Notify for XMIT

2015-05-22 Thread Joel Ewing
On 05/21/2015 09:46 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In 555c9bbd.4030...@acm.org, on 05/20/2015 at 09:35 AM, Joel Ewing jcew...@acm.org said: My recollection is that the immediate bailout from the CLIST and from batch TSO on a non-zero TSO command processor RC only occurred for

ZFS backup question

2015-05-22 Thread Peter
Hi Can we still backup a zfs dataset even if they are mounted with R/W. Is there a way to tolerate the ZFS enqueues? z/OS:2.1 Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: CA-1 programming example

2015-05-22 Thread John McKown
On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Russell Witt res09...@verizon.net wrote: Wow, you sure got a lot of answers and very quickly. ​snip/​ And as others have stated, if you are looking for something more in terms of batch processing I would always recommend CA Earl first and then TMSGRW

Re: Where can a running TSO program get its terminal name

2015-05-22 Thread Charles Mills
Well, it seemed safer. As I said, I do not claim this is optimal. Someone else suggested offline that they thought it would work AMODE 31 just so long as the actual operands were below the line. I don't need to have this blow up at a customer's. The additional cost of doing it this way rather than

Re: CA-1 programming example

2015-05-22 Thread John McKown
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 8:07 AM, Russell Witt res09...@verizon.net wrote: Ok, that brings up some follow-up questions. First of course is why do you want an XML formatted copy of the TMC records? And second is do other clients want to see an XML formatted copy of TMC records? ​Actually, I

Re: CA-1 programming example

2015-05-22 Thread Russell Witt
Ok, that brings up some follow-up questions. First of course is why do you want an XML formatted copy of the TMC records? And second is do other clients want to see an XML formatted copy of TMC records? Russell Witt -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Central Florida z/OS people

2015-05-22 Thread Schmeelk, Gregory P.
Shmuel, that innovation, spill Czech, has saved me many a time while receiving PTFs. Sometimes I miss being in Washington DC, then I come to my senses. I hope you are doing well. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu] On Behalf Of

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-05-22 Thread Pommier, Rex
What machine are you planning on plugging this 3x74 into? IIRC, the 3274s were strictly bus and tag, and there were some 3174s that were ESCON-capable. I have no experience with the 9074 machines, but IBM doesn't support ESCON on anything more current than the z196/z114, do they? So you're

Re: HSM Recalls and MASKING

2015-05-22 Thread John Clifford
Lizette, If you get a listing of the migrated datasets on ML2 and sort by ML2 tape #, then issue the recall by ML2 volume, HSM seems to handle the dsn sequences on the tape and do the recall(s) very fast. I had to recall 18,000 dsn's one time for Tivoli ouput mgr (TOM) and they were on 8 ML2

Re: Did I really need a CLIST???

2015-05-22 Thread Greg Shirey
Not even remotely? Okay, I'll bite. What point were you trying to make by your comment PUSH is one letter shorter. Thanks, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-05-22 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv
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Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-05-22 Thread John McKown
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Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-05-22 Thread Charles Mills
http://www.argecy.com/index.php?pfile=3274 Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Thompson Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 7:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Question on 3270 Devices Does anyone know of

Question on 3270 Devices

2015-05-22 Thread Steve Thompson
Does anyone know of any real 3270 devices that are available from IBM or a third party that are still being serviced and/or actively marketed? I'm thinking that IBM stopped support for all 3270 devices (including controllers) somewhere in the '90s. And I believe all the third party

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-05-22 Thread Skellen, Frank
How about this? http://www.visara.com/maindocs/DSheet/dsUCT_7_29_2009.pdf -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Thompson Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Question on 3270

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-05-22 Thread Pommier, Rex
Sorry, make that 2074, not 9074 - getting my numbers messed up Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question on 3270

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-05-22 Thread Charles Mills
revision date 12/26/2003 ??? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 8:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question on 3270 Devices

(OT) Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-05-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 22 May 2015 09:56:13 -0500, John McKown wrote: My sister opened a computer store in Hawaii. She sells C shells down by the seashore. I miss Mel Blanc. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-05-22 Thread Steve Thompson
Thanks for the replies. I doubt that any of those devices are in use with the possible exception of the control room where they have Master Consoles. The rest of us are required to use TN3270 emulation under Windows. Now, think of time-out and auditors. Regards, Steve Thompson

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-05-22 Thread Mike Schwab
http://www.c-reset.com/terminal.html#IBM On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Steve Thompson ste...@copper.net wrote: Does anyone know of any real 3270 devices that are available from IBM or a third party that are still being serviced and/or actively marketed? I'm thinking that IBM stopped

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-05-22 Thread Mike Schwab
Jay Maynard bought a 3174 with a Token Ring and Ethernet to plug into a PC running Hercules. He already had an Apple ][ with a Token Ring, so he plugged it in and used it as a console. Not that Apple ][s are cheap and readily available. On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Pommier, Rex

Re: Did I really need a CLIST???

2015-05-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 20 May 2015 15:08:44 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: CMS/TSO Pipelines embodies a similar absurdity: It's not absurd if it doe what it was designed for. Now, if there isn't a command similar to literal but putting STDIN firt, *(that* would be absurd. There is. The APPEND

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-05-22 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Have a look at the Visara devices - they have some. Jerry Whitteridge Lead Systems Engineer Safeway Inc. 925 738 9443 Corporate Tieline - 89443 If you feel in control you just aren't going fast enough. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-05-22 Thread Pommier, Rex
Probably the last time they sold one. :-) Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question on 3270 Devices revision date

help w/ a virt printer

2015-05-22 Thread August Carideo/RYE/US
Trying to get back a virt printer w/o a IPL When they start the printer on VSE is seems to go looking for a real device Tried a few different things but to no avail Any help appreciated Thanks, Augie VM directory entry: SPOOL 00F 4245 Z * cp q v 00f AR 0015 PRT 000F CL A NOCONT NOHOLD COPY 001

Interesting article, mainly about LISP, but about programming too.

2015-05-22 Thread John McKown
http://www.defmacro.org/ramblings/lisp.html This article is mainly about the eureka! moment when a regular programmer finally got it about LISP. But it not just about LISP, and contains some very interesting thoughts. Well, at least to me. Especially his approaching LISP programs from an XML

Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-05-22 Thread Christopher Mason
If you are looking for a current modern technology device that supports ESCON and FICON SecureAgent makes a 9074 IDG. http://www.secureagent.com/IDG9074-index.htm Thanks, *Chris Mason ▪ Mainframe Systems Engineer ▪ Technical Services Group** ▪ * *Sungard Availability Services* 401 North

FW: help w/ a virt printer

2015-05-22 Thread August Carideo/RYE/US
Should be seeing this F1 0001 1R48I RDR,00C,A, F1 0001 1R48I RDR,02C,Z, F1 0001 1R48I PUN,01D,Z,VM,, INACTIVE, F1 0001 1R48I LST,00F,Z,1,VM,, INACTIVE, From: VSE-L [mailto:vse-l-bounces+august.carideo=avon@lists.lehigh.edu] On Behalf Of August Carideo/RYE/US Sent: Friday,

Re: help w/ a virt printer

2015-05-22 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
* CP READY 00F Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. From: VSE-L [mailto:vse-l-bounces+framaekers=ailife@lists.lehigh.edu] On Behalf Of August Carideo/RYE/US Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 11:55 AM To: VSE Discussion List; IBM Mainframe DiscussionList Subject: help w/ a virt printer Trying to get

Re: Is there a good EBCDIC IBM-1047 Emulator?

2015-05-22 Thread Tony Harminc
On 20 May 2015 at 15:32, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: I always thought of Latin 1 as ISO8859-1 It is, but Don presumably meant that IBM-1047 was the EBCDIC equivalent to ISO-8859-1. Apples and oranges. Latin-1 is what IBM calls a Character Set, and ISO et al