Re: Releasing Orphan Storage without IPL

2015-10-30 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 12:28 -0400 on 10/30/2015, Tony Harminc wrote about Re: Releasing Orphan Storage without IPL: On 30 October 2015 at 07:02, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: As I have said in March 2013 - "We have a trophy just for such disasters. The new owner keeps it until another person makes an error..."

Re: Share your z Systems expertise: survey improvement

2015-10-30 Thread Cheryl Watson
Hi Tony, I have to say I was quite confused by the survey until you mentioned Asit Dan's name. Here is a SHARE presentation he did that explains everything that Greg was asking - https://share.confex.com/share/124/webprogram/Session17100.html. Now it makes a lot more sense. Thanks for the na

Re: Share your z Systems expertise: survey improvement

2015-10-30 Thread Tony Harminc
On 30 October 2015 at 13:57, Greg Lubel wrote: > Thanks to all who have followed the link to my survey. This is a quick > question to those of you > who've looked at it and decided not to complete it. > > Would you mind letting me know in a sentence how I could make it better, to > encourage com

Re: Share your z Systems expertise

2015-10-30 Thread Jack J. Woehr
Greg Lubel wrote: Hi, I am the IBM design lead for our z Systems API strategy. Enjoyed the survey, thanks. -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of www.well.com/~jax # thinking, a way of skeptically interrogating the universe www.softwoehr.com # with a fi

Re: I am looking for a new contract/job

2015-10-30 Thread Charles Mills
When a secure site works in one browser and not another, one possibility is that the first has the necessary CA certificate and the second does not. There is no "universal list of generally accepted CA's." Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LIS

Re: Share your z Systems expertise: survey improvement

2015-10-30 Thread Gibney, David Allen,Jr
I just started the survey, by the third page I had no idea what you were asking, so I quit > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Steve Beaver > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 12:51 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Su

Re: How to change SMS

2015-10-30 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 13:34 -0400 on 10/30/2015, Bill Ashton wrote about How to change SMS: She is the only user of this Dataclass, and this is only temporary (until end of January). So I would need to know how to add the vols now, and then back them out again in 3 months Adding additional volumes so the file ca

Re: How to change SMS

2015-10-30 Thread Bill Ashton
Thanks again, Lizette, I had just read this in the IDCAMS manual as your note popped in. I think I have it... Thanks to all who answered, and have a great weekend! On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote: > Remember > > ADDVOLUMES(volser [ volser]) > This provides the volumes

Re: How to change SMS

2015-10-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
Remember ADDVOLUMES(volser [ volser]) This provides the volumes that are to be added to the list of candidate volumes. You can use ALTER ADDVOLUMES to add candidate volumes to non-managed VSAM data sets and SMS-managed VSAM, non-VSAM, and generation data sets (GDS). Only nonspecific volumes

Re: Share your z Systems expertise: survey improvement

2015-10-30 Thread Steve Beaver
Tom, My best description would be SHARE on-line where the audience that can respond with suggestions and/or answers Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Brennan Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 12:43 PM To: IB

Re: Share your z Systems expertise: survey improvement

2015-10-30 Thread Tom Brennan
Tell them there's a printable $10 bill waiting for them at the end :) Actually, I'm one of the looky-loos. I was only trying to understand what this is all about and don't have any applications. I didn't fully understand the background and objectives after the first few questions, so I left.

Re: (External):Re: HMC/Browser access and JAVA

2015-10-30 Thread Ed Finnell
'Love potion No. 9' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a1LlRQA3UE In a message dated 10/30/2015 11:08:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jo.skip.robin...@sce.com writes: The love doctor will advise that you get off of Java, but unfortunately that means getting off the (modern) world altogether.

Re: How to change SMS

2015-10-30 Thread Bill Ashton
OK, this is some education for me...I saw the count in the Dataclass and thought I would have to only increase that. I will make sure the Dataclass has the right count of vols, and will also be sure the SMS group has those specific volumes defined. Now to be sure I have the command right, since I

Re: How to change SMS

2015-10-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
So, You will need to add more volumes to the SMS Pool Then go to the DATA Class and ensure you are not setting things like Volume Count or Dyna volume count to a number less then what you are providing your user. And ALTER dsn VOL(* * * * * ) however many stars to reflect the number of volumes.

Re: How to change SMS

2015-10-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
As far as I know, the DATACLAS does not point to volumes. Just number of volumes can be placed in the Dataclas. A storage group could be set in the ACS code based on the Dataclas, maybe. But the environment might just be using the data class to set attributes of the file, and the use NON SMS

Re: How to change SMS

2015-10-30 Thread Mike Schwab
I am familiar with SMS storage groups. I am not familiar with dataclas that point to specific volumes without a storage group. Please give me an example. On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Bill Ashton wrote: > The file is currently on 3 volumes that are SMS managed in a Dataclass that > has 3 vol

Share your z Systems expertise: survey improvement

2015-10-30 Thread Greg Lubel
Thanks to all who have followed the link to my survey. This is a quick question to those of you who've looked at it and decided not to complete it. Would you mind letting me know in a sentence how I could make it better, to encourage completion? Many thanks, Greg -

Re: How to change SMS

2015-10-30 Thread Bill Ashton
The file is currently on 3 volumes that are SMS managed in a Dataclass that has 3 volumes. We want to add 3 more volumes to this Dataclass and have the file automatically pick them up. I will look at the ALTER AddVolumes... On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Mark Jacobs - Listserv < mark.jac...@cust

Re: Driving System for z/OS 2.1 ServerPac Install

2015-10-30 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv
The only concern I'd have is that certain jobs in the ServerPac use the target systems MIGLIB as a joblib/steplib. If those executed programs use instructions not available on the z990... It's probably not an issue however. Mark Jacobs Porowski, Ken October 30,

Re: How to change SMS

2015-10-30 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv
Can't you just do an ALTER ADDVOLUMES(* * *) on that dataset? Mark Jacobs Bill Ashton October 30, 2015 at 1:34 PM Hi friends! One of our users is working with a file that is currently defined to a special Dataclass with 3 volumes (it is pretty full already). They

Re: How to change SMS

2015-10-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
Is your data set in an SMS pool? Or are these non SMS volumes? Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Bill Ashton > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 10:35 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: How to chang

Re: TCP and UDP

2015-10-30 Thread J R
I assumed the OP's reference to LU6.2 was simply to indicate that he was not new to communications programming. He just needs a kickstart in the IP direction. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Mike Wawiorko Sent: Friday, October 30,

How to change SMS

2015-10-30 Thread Bill Ashton
Hi friends! One of our users is working with a file that is currently defined to a special Dataclass with 3 volumes (it is pretty full already). They want to test an end-of-year process that will add a lot of data to this file, and I would like to add another 3 volumes temporarily to this class. C

Driving System for z/OS 2.1 ServerPac Install

2015-10-30 Thread Porowski, Ken
I’m running z/OS 1.13 on a z990. I know I can’t run z/OS 2.1 on the z990 but can I install it via ServerPac using a driving system of z/OS 1.13 on a z990? RTFM only states: Identifying driving system hardware requirements In addition to the hardware needed to run a driving system and the DASD

Share your z Systems expertise

2015-10-30 Thread Greg Lubel
Hi, I am the IBM design lead for our z Systems API strategy. I am looking for help from those who understand and appreciate the challenges, considerations and practices of exposing z Systems assets through APIs. Insight into your knowledge & experience will help us shape our future direction an

Re: Releasing Orphan Storage without IPL

2015-10-30 Thread Tony Harminc
On 30 October 2015 at 07:02, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: > As I have said in March 2013 - "We have a trophy just for such disasters. The > new owner keeps it until another > person makes an error..." Well it seems to be war-story Friday. When I started as a junior sysprog 40-something years ago,

Re: (External):Re: HMC/Browser access and JAVA

2015-10-30 Thread Jack J. Woehr
J O Skip Robinson wrote: the despair of 'Java compatibility' I'm still running Java code I wrote under 1.2. Java code written uplevel doesn't work backwards and never did. -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of www.well.com/~jax # thinking, a way of skep

Re: (External):Re: HMC/Browser access and JAVA

2015-10-30 Thread J O Skip Robinson
If the SHARE Singalong were still running in high gear, we could write an anti-romantic ballad about the despair of 'Java compatibility'. I would suggest that each new Java release contains antibodies to all previous releases and--of course--to all future releases. The love doctor will advise th

Re: HMC/Browser access and JAVA

2015-10-30 Thread Jon Butler
You are conflating MVS with JAVA. No guarantees expressed or implied in the JAVA world. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Releasing Orphan Storage without IPL

2015-10-30 Thread R.S.
A little bit out of topic: What do you prefer: an IPL or system crash? It's serious question. It depends on business approach and of course whether you have sysplex or no. For me, it is usually better to schedule "sudden" IPL than have a crash. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Treść

Re: Releasing Orphan Storage without IPL

2015-10-30 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 10/30/2015 at 06:56 AM, John McKown said: >Telling on my own idiocy. Or dislexia causing a whoops moment. I once typed EXEC CMS ERASE when I meant ERASE CMS EXEC. My finget was moving to PA1 an instant later. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: TCP and UDP

2015-10-30 Thread Tony Thigpen
Just to correct a typo: TCPIP.SEZACMAC(EZASMI) Tony Thigpen Tony Thigpen wrote on 10/30/2015 10:44 AM: TCPIP.SEZACMACIEZASMI) Tony Thigpen Steve Beaver wrote on 10/30/2015 10:33 AM: I could not find the EZASMI macro, but I did find the EZASOKET executable Thanks Tony -Original Message-

Re: TCP and UDP

2015-10-30 Thread Steve Beaver
Thank you again -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 7:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TCP and UDP TCPIP.SEZACMACIEZASMI) Tony Thigpen Steve Beaver wrote on 10/3

Re: TCP and UDP

2015-10-30 Thread Tony Thigpen
TCPIP.SEZACMACIEZASMI) Tony Thigpen Steve Beaver wrote on 10/30/2015 10:33 AM: I could not find the EZASMI macro, but I did find the EZASOKET executable Thanks Tony -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent

Re: TCP and UDP

2015-10-30 Thread Steve Beaver
I could not find the EZASMI macro, but I did find the EZASOKET executable Thanks Tony -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 1:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TCP an

Re: Releasing Orphan Storage without IPL

2015-10-30 Thread Gross, Randall [PRI-1PP]
I did the same thing my first month as a sysprog. Thank goodness for shared DASD and a second system. Since it's Friday: On a similar note, we were running a very early release of MVS on an Amdahl V6 (serial #19). We had been told that a couple of other acco

Re: STCKCONV (was: RE-IPL for the Daylight ...)

2015-10-30 Thread Peter Relson
>It appears that STCKCONV provides a greater variety of output >formats than TIME (am I right?) There appears to me to be a variety of outputs for each. I don't have an opinion on which is "greater" >So a programmer might use a TIME; CONVTOD; STCKCONV sequence >to get one of those other formats

Re: Releasing Orphan Storage without IPL

2015-10-30 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
Right, the problem is not to find orphaned storage, but there is intentionally orphaned storage and unintentionally orphaned storage. The problem is to find the latter. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Thomas Co

Re: Releasing Orphan Storage without IPL

2015-10-30 Thread Thomas Conley
On 10/30/2015 4:18 AM, Jake Anderson wrote: Hello, One of our Test LPAR was victim of S878 abends caused by a DB2 system. Now the DB2 system is down but still the ECSA and CSA are at 97% and 98%. Is it possible to release the Unused Storage without IPLing ? Regards, Jake --

Re: Releasing Orphan Storage without IPL

2015-10-30 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 5:25 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht < elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote: > Shane Ginnane wrote: > > >Junior sysprog was using a well-known monitor that showed a bunch of > "unused" shared storage. He decided we could use it, so decided to free it. > ... > > >... Still scratchi

Re: HMC/Browser access and JAVA

2015-10-30 Thread Jousma, David
That is odd. One thing I noticed that I don't care for is that once you upgrade the HMC to 2.13.0 for the JAVA 8 support, accessing it from machines with JAVA 6 or 7 no longer works. That really surprised me, because I always thought there was downward compatibility.

Re: Releasing Orphan Storage without IPL

2015-10-30 Thread Ted MacNEIL
You can do it (carefully) with OMEGAMON, but it's error-prone and tricky (as previously stated). It's documented in a separate manual that the vendor advises be kept under lock and key, which I agree with. We let people free up CCA on the development box, since the alternative was an IPL. This

Re: Releasing Orphan Storage without IPL

2015-10-30 Thread Richard Pinion
Anyone ever make GRS swappable using one of those third party system monitors? I did! Had to IPL too. --- tuco.bo...@admin.sc.gov wrote: From: "Bonno, Tuco" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Releasing Orphan Storage without IPL Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 10:57:5

Re: Releasing Orphan Storage without IPL

2015-10-30 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Vernooij, CP wrote: >>Did you 'freed' that junior to the pavement and reclaimed his office table? >Of course not, how did you learn? We have a saying: by falling and getting up >again, you learn. You are right, anyways Shane said it was a development system. As I have said in March 2013 - "We

Re: Releasing Orphan Storage without IPL

2015-10-30 Thread Bonno, Tuco
yeah, i did that too one time; was lucky: only the cics regions crashed and was able to recover by restarting them all; did not need to re-ipl. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM Sent: Frida

Re: Releasing Orphan Storage without IPL

2015-10-30 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 11:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Releasing Orphan Storage without IPL Shane Ginnane wrote: >Junior sysprog was usin

Re: Releasing Orphan Storage without IPL

2015-10-30 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Shane Ginnane wrote: >Junior sysprog was using a well-known monitor that showed a bunch of "unused" >shared storage. He decided we could use it, so decided to free it. ... >... Still scratching our heads when afore-mentioned junior returned and wanted >to know what all the kerfuffle was

Re: TCP and UDP

2015-10-30 Thread Mike Wawiorko
I'm somewhat confused by your question. LU6.2 is an SNA or APPC protocol. It is not IP, neither TCP nor UDP. You may send LU6.2 traffic over an IP network with Enterprise Extender. EE is UDP. Mike Wawiorko  Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail -Original Message

Re: Releasing Orphan Storage without IPL

2015-10-30 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 13:48:08 +0530, Jake Anderson wrote: >Is it possible to release the Unused Storage without IPLing ? Of course. But you'd better be right. Junior sysprog was using a well-known monitor that showed a bunch of "unused" shared storage. He decided we could use it, so decided to

Re: Releasing Orphan Storage without IPL

2015-10-30 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Jake Anderson wrote: >One of our Test LPAR was victim of S878 abends caused by a DB2 system. You need to investigate the reasons/cause of those abends. Are the abends inside DB2 itself or in a job using DB2? > Now the DB2 system is down but still the ECSA and CSA are at 97% and 98%. How big a

Re: TCP and UDP

2015-10-30 Thread Tony Thigpen
For EZASMI (Assembler) or EZASOKET (Cobol): Listener: INITAPI SOCKET loop: RECVFROM SENDTO CLOSE TERMAPI Client: INITAPI SOCKET SENDTO RECVFROM CLOSE TERMAPI Just off the top of my head at 4am. There are other commands you may need based on what you are doing, but this is the basic command

Re: Releasing Orphan Storage without IPL

2015-10-30 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
It is very difficult and tricky to determine which orphaned storage is left orphaned unintentionally and can be releases. Remember that CSA and ECSA can overflow to SQA and ESQA, so you have more air in you (E)CSA than the 2% and 3% and this might help you survive until the next scheduled IPL.

Releasing Orphan Storage without IPL

2015-10-30 Thread Jake Anderson
Hello, One of our Test LPAR was victim of S878 abends caused by a DB2 system. Now the DB2 system is down but still the ECSA and CSA are at 97% and 98%. Is it possible to release the Unused Storage without IPLing ? Regards, Jake