Re: Time difference in operating system

2018-07-05 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 07/05/2018 10:14 AM, R.S. wrote: > W dniu 2018-07-05 o 09:36, Jake Anderson pisze: >> Hi >> >> I understand that the operating system timing takes from HMC. >> >> Still we find a few seconds of difference in Operating system. >> >> Does it takes time to percolate and get in sync ? > > Your assum

Sysplex between two hardware

2018-07-05 Thread Peter
Hi We are looking up for a solution where we need a LPAR to have a hot standby in other LPAR running in a different machine . As we are trying to create a sysplex relationship between two LPARS running in a different machines . Apology for my ignorance and is it possible ? Peter --

The Tandem successors are now with HPE was Re: SUSE splits from Microfocus

2018-07-05 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 5 Jul 2018 13:37:11 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main wayn...@gmail.com (Wayne Bickerdike) wrote: >DEC completely forgotten? > >I once read that HP was a printer company masquerading as a computer >company. The Tandem series successors are now on Intel Xeon or Itanium chips depending o

Re: [External] Re: remove bad GDG entry from GDG base

2018-07-05 Thread Jackson, Rob
That's because if the original attempt was tape, there's definitely no NVR. Sorry, when I mentioned IEHPROGM earlier, I was actually thinking of the CATLG command, as in CATLG DSNAME=dataset,VOL=3390=whocares (disk doesn't matter, because you just want an entry you can actually delete). I thoug

Re: REXX as JCL replacement

2018-07-05 Thread Charles Mills
Right. And I don't believe "JCL" does. I think think the scheduling component of JESx or something similar either waits or polls. Anyway, you are reading about SVC 99. I meant a separate module to do the ENQs. I would guess that SVC 99 does a RET=HAVE so there would be no harm in a pre-ENQ. Ch

Re: Function in SDSF to list Dynamic Exits

2018-07-05 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
We IPLed a new system today with 2.3. My SDSF menu is in 'hide mode'. All of the following options are displayed, but none of them works. PROC Proclib data setsJES SSI Subsystem informationSystem CFC CF Connections Sysplex CFS CF Structures

Re: [External] Re: remove bad GDG entry from GDG base

2018-07-05 Thread Nelson, Judith
We tried. :( DELETE PTP.DP.TRMS.ARCH999.X3.G0308V00 FILE(VOL2) NVR IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 50 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLE3-92 IDC0551I ** ENTRY PTP.DP.TRMS.ARCH999.X3.G0308V00 NOT DELETED IDC0001I FUNCTION COMPLETED, HIGHEST CONDITION CODE WAS 8 Judit

Re: [External] Re: remove bad GDG entry from GDG base

2018-07-05 Thread Nelson, Judith
I created one and it allocated it and cataloged, but did not get rolled into the GDG base. Tried in batch and manually. I also tried to run: //STEP005 EXEC PGM=IEBGENER //SYSUT1 DD DISP=SHR,DSN=PTP.DP.TRMS.ARCH999.X3.G0308V00 //SYSUT2 DD DSN=PTP.DP.TRMS.ARCH999.X3.G0308V01, // D

Re: REXX as JCL replacement

2018-07-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 13:29:01 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >I have not really thought it through but I just cannot picture how building >some combination of Rexx or whatever + assembler one could not do 'n' >simultaneous ENQs. The facilities are there in MVS for the asking: > >"ENQ assigns control

Re: [External] Re: remove bad GDG entry from GDG base

2018-07-05 Thread Nelson, Judith
I am answering for Brad. The entry has no disk volume associated with it, since it was created to tape. So there is no disk, no dates, no tape information, no MVS catalog connection; only an entry under the gdg base. If you go into 3.4 and display it – you have to type the whole dataset name

Re: SUSE splits from Microfocus

2018-07-05 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
DEC completely forgotten? I once read that HP was a printer company masquerading as a computer company. At least IBM have stuck with the mainframe. HP have buried their technological history. On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 3:41 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: > In the beginning was Compaq, and HP was know f

Re: REXX as JCL replacement

2018-07-05 Thread Charles Mills
I have not really thought it through but I just cannot picture how building some combination of Rexx or whatever + assembler one could not do 'n' simultaneous ENQs. The facilities are there in MVS for the asking: "ENQ assigns control of one or more serially reusable resources to a task. If any

Re: IBM i as JCL replacement (was: Rexx as JCL replacement)

2018-07-05 Thread Dana Mitchell
Most everything is menu driven, about the closest thing on IBM i are CL programs (Control Language). Think Clists but they require compilation. An optional IBM licensed program product, Advanced Job Scheduler, has a way to schedule a series of commands, but there is no conditional processing

Re: IBM i as JCL replacement (was: Rexx as JCL replacement)

2018-07-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 16:28:10 -0300, Clark Morris wrote: >[Default] On 5 Jul 2018 07:47:19 -0700, (Dana Mitchell) wrote: > >For batch processes how does the i series command language compare to >JCL. How are competing requests for file access handled? > If, as John says, the filesystem paradigm is

Re: IBM i as JCL replacement (was: Rexx as JCL replacement)

2018-07-05 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 5 Jul 2018 07:47:19 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main mitchd...@gmail.com (Dana Mitchell) wrote: >I spend more time now days supporting a handful of IBM i LPARs than our z/OS >systems. There are definitely some frustrating facets of the IBM i world. >For instance, the 5250 emulati

Re: REXX as JCL replacement

2018-07-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 14:23:35 -0400, Hobart Spitz wrote: >I think a more encompassing approach would be for JOL to be a function, >command or environment which could be invoked from REXX. > I wonder how JOL addresses theneed for "parallel ENQs". S99WTDSN requires APF authorization. Does JOL submi

Re: AT-TLS for HTTP

2018-07-05 Thread Rob Schramm
It is probably just my own FUD that is making me doubt it. Rob Schramm On Thu, Jul 5, 2018, 1:59 PM Mike Hochee wrote: > I have not used it for that specifically, but I don't see why not. The > policy based rules allow for job/task names and support wildcards, and you > might not even need tho

Re: REXX as JCL replacement

2018-07-05 Thread Hobart Spitz
I think a more encompassing approach would be for JOL to be a function, command or environment which could be invoked from REXX. That way, you don't have to reinvent or do without all the things that REXX brings to the table, both as a language and as something that interfaces with many parts of z

Re: Linklist and APF

2018-07-05 Thread Steve Beaver
What does the PGM= do as coded? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2018 10:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Linklist and APF Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >I have job

Re: DYNALLOC

2018-07-05 Thread Steve Smith
DYNALLOC certainly does not require AMODE 24, or RMODE 24. The coding technique used in Bill Ogden's and Eileen's examples do. Bill Godfrey's works in either 24 or 31 modes. He also identified the main problem. FWIW, there's no need to write code that looks like it was extracted from a dump. W

Re: AT-TLS for HTTP

2018-07-05 Thread Mike Hochee
I have not used it for that specifically, but I don't see why not. The policy based rules allow for job/task names and support wildcards, and you might not even need those if you can filter based on a unique port range. I've been impressed with AT-TLS, as it offers a lot of customization optio

Re: SUSE splits from Microfocus

2018-07-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
In the beginning was Compaq, and HP was know for its excellent printers. Then the printers went downhill and there was Hewlett PacPaq, although not by that name. Wheile HP borged EDS, Dell borged Perot Systems. Oh, and TI was somewhere in that saga. And oscilloscopes. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Me

Re: ISF.CONNECT.*

2018-07-05 Thread Mick Graley
I believe turning off "write to programmer" messages with TSO PROFILE NOWTPMSG will hide the ICH408I but you might miss something else you want to see. Cheers, Mick. On 4 July 2018 at 09:47, Barbara Nitz wrote: > Something has changed with SDSFAUX between z/OS 2.1 and z/OS 2.3. > > Under z/OS 2

Re: OA55296 data loss DB2 may be especially vulnerable

2018-07-05 Thread Jousma, David
FYI, follow-up from IBM. This PTF is going PE, but only because the hold data was incorrectly stating that an IPL with CLPA is required. That will be changed to a LLA refresh is required, followed by a F DEVMAN,RESTART. _ Dave J

Re: DYNALLOC

2018-07-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
AFAIK only DAIR requires AMODE(24), not DYNALLOC. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Barkow, Eileen Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2018 11:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: DY

AT-TLS for HTTP

2018-07-05 Thread Rob Schramm
This might be a weird one. I have used Policy Agent AT-TLS in the past to secure JDBC communication with a UDB data base. Can I use Policy agent to secure an existing HTTP GET process (assembler program), by doing a similar process? Has anyone else done this? Thanks, Rob Schramm -- Rob Schra

Re: Linklist and APF

2018-07-05 Thread Walt Farrell
On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 17:18:24 +0200, R.S. wrote: >I have job with the following steplib: > >//STEPLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=HLQ.LNKLST.LIB1 >// DD DISP=SHR,DSN=HLQ.LNKLST.LIB2 >// DD DISP=SHR,DSN=HLQ.NONLNK.LIB3 > >LIB1, and LIB2 reside in LNKLST, but not on APF. >LIB3 is not on LNKLST, but is APF-author

Re: DYNALLOC

2018-07-05 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Are you running with AMODE=24? I think that you still need to, from looking at my old DYNALLOC pgms. DS 0F DYNBLKS EQU * RBPOINT DC A(RBS) ADR REQ BLOCK PASSED IN R1 ORG RBPOINT S99RBP DSECT DCX'80' HI ORDER BIT MUST BE ON DS0F RBS EQU

Re: Question about the z/OS Binder API

2018-07-05 Thread Barry Lichtenstein
Hi Peter, The documentation for GETE warns: "Note: Processing of the ESD records returned by a GETE call should not make assumptions about the order of the returned ESD records..." The expectation was that there would never be a very large number of classes, so that a simple class lookup (as i

Re: Linklist and APF

2018-07-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >I have job with the following steplib: >//STEPLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=HLQ.LNKLST.LIB1 >//DD DISP=SHR,DSN=HLQ.LNKLST.LIB2 >//DD DISP=SHR,DSN=HLQ.NONLNK.LIB3 >LIB1, and LIB2 reside in LNKLST, but not on APF. >LIB3 is not on LNKLST, but is APF-

Re: DYNALLOC

2018-07-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 08:14:35 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >Should not be a S0C4 but don't you want pointers to ALL of the text units? > He doesn't have pointers to any of his text units. X'0055',X'0001' is likely not a valid address. -- Tom Marchant > > >-Original Message- >From: IBM Main

Re: Linklist and APF

2018-07-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 17:18:24 +0200, R.S. wrote: >I have job with the following steplib: > >//STEPLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=HLQ.LNKLST.LIB1 >// DD DISP=SHR,DSN=HLQ.LNKLST.LIB2 >// DD DISP=SHR,DSN=HLQ.NONLNK.LIB3 > >LIB1, and LIB2 reside in LNKLST, but not on APF. >LIB3 is not on LNKLST,

Re: [External] Re: remove bad GDG entry from GDG base

2018-07-05 Thread Steve Thompson
Try to create a GDS with the name of PTP.DP.TRMS.ARCH999.X3.G0308V01 << NOTE the VERSION number You can fill this data set with the desired contents, or you can make it a null data set (1 track and empty). This might get you around the problem until those entries roll out of the GDG base.

Linklist and APF

2018-07-05 Thread R.S.
I have job with the following steplib: //STEPLIB  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=HLQ.LNKLST.LIB1 //    DD DISP=SHR,DSN=HLQ.LNKLST.LIB2 //    DD DISP=SHR,DSN=HLQ.NONLNK.LIB3 LIB1, and LIB2 reside in LNKLST, but not on APF. LIB3 is not on LNKLST, but is APF-authorized. The job works when

Re: Connect:Direct and VOL=REF ?

2018-07-05 Thread Steve Thompson
If you had just said tape... And things are kinda different with VTS -- but, I hope you are using checkpointing so that a restart doesn't require starting from scratch. All of that will be handled under the covers. A certain company was running C:D 5.0 and their partner was running the lates

Re: Time difference in operating system

2018-07-05 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2018-07-05 o 09:36, Jake Anderson pisze: Hi I understand that the operating system timing takes from HMC. Still we find a few seconds of difference in Operating system. Does it takes time to percolate and get in sync ? Your assumption is not true. If you don't have STP, your time is j

Re: DYNALLOC

2018-07-05 Thread Charles Mills
Should not be a S0C4 but don't you want pointers to ALL of the text units? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Godfrey Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2018 7:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DYNALLOC

Re: remove bad GDG entry from GDG base

2018-07-05 Thread Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services)
Classification: Public Not that I've ever played with them, but there are commands / options to ROLLIN and ROLLOFF GDS members of GDGs - could they help? Looks like IEHPROGM might be able to rebuild indexes too. Chapter 29 of Using Data Sets looks like the place to go. Never played with any of

Re: remove bad GDG entry from GDG base

2018-07-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 09:27:07 -0500, Brad Wissink wrote: >We need to remove a GDG entry from a GDG base, but the catalog >entry doesn't exist. What happened was that during the creation of >the GDG (PTP.DP.TRMS.ARCH999.X3.G0308V00) the user catalog filled >up and could not extend. I suspect tha

Re: [External] Re: remove bad GDG entry from GDG base

2018-07-05 Thread Jackson, Rob
Did you try IEHPROGM? What happens if you create a different dataset and rename it to the messed up GDS? First Tennessee Bank Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Wissink, Brad Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2018 10:51 AM To: IBM-MA

Re: IBM i as JCL replacement (was: Rexx as JCL replacement)

2018-07-05 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 9:47 AM Dana Mitchell wrote: > I spend more time now days supporting a handful of IBM i LPARs than our > z/OS systems. There are definitely some frustrating facets of the IBM i > world. For instance, the 5250 emulation is almost all 24x80, with just > a few panels that

Re: [External] Re: remove bad GDG entry from GDG base

2018-07-05 Thread Wissink, Brad
Trying to delete the GDG entry results in; DELETE PTP.DP.TRMS.ARCH999.X3.G0308V00 NONVSAM NOSCRATCH PURGE IDC3901I ERROR QUALIFYING PTP.DP.TRMS.ARCH999.X3.G0308V00 IDC3902I ** DEFAULT SERVICE ROUTINE ERROR CODE 20, LOCATE ERROR CODE 8 IDC0014I LASTCC=8

Re: DYNALLOC

2018-07-05 Thread Bill Godfrey
On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 10:29:22 -0400, Bill Ogden wrote: >It has been a few decades since I used DYNALLOC and I am now doing >something stupid that results in an 0C4 somewhere in never-never land. Can >someone give me a clue without going to much trouble? (DRB and DRBPTR are >on full word boundar

Re: IBM i as JCL replacement (was: Rexx as JCL replacement)

2018-07-05 Thread Dana Mitchell
I spend more time now days supporting a handful of IBM i LPARs than our z/OS systems. There are definitely some frustrating facets of the IBM i world. For instance, the 5250 emulation is almost all 24x80, with just a few panels that actually utilize 27x132, and thats it! Many new function

Re: remove bad GDG entry from GDG base

2018-07-05 Thread Mike Schwab
Create a dummy by specific number then delete? On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 9:27 AM Brad Wissink wrote: > > We need to remove a GDG entry from a GDG base, but the catalog entry doesn't > exist. What happened was that during the creation of the GDG > (PTP.DP.TRMS.ARCH999.X3.G0308V00) the user catalog

Re: remove bad GDG entry from GDG base

2018-07-05 Thread Allan Staller
DEL entryname NSCR? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Brad Wissink Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2018 9:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: remove bad GDG entry from GDG base We need to remove a GDG entry from a GDG ba

DYNALLOC

2018-07-05 Thread Bill Ogden
It has been a few decades since I used DYNALLOC and I am now doing something stupid that results in an 0C4 somewhere in never-never land. Can someone give me a clue without going to much trouble? (DRB and DRBPTR are on full word boundaries.) LA1,DRBPTR DYNALLOC ... ...

remove bad GDG entry from GDG base

2018-07-05 Thread Brad Wissink
We need to remove a GDG entry from a GDG base, but the catalog entry doesn't exist. What happened was that during the creation of the GDG (PTP.DP.TRMS.ARCH999.X3.G0308V00) the user catalog filled up and could not extend. We received IEC331I 020-000. error message on this. We corrected t

Re: [EXTERNAL] Storage hot/cold analysis

2018-07-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Martin Packer wrote: >"Meh" is "meh". :-) If I say "hardly worth looking up" I think you'll get the >joke. :-) Hahahaha! LOL! Yes, Martin I got the joke! You're a zChampion of course! ;-D Thanks! Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -

Re: Function in SDSF to list Dynamic Exits

2018-07-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
mikael.nyst...@seb.se wrote: >Det här är ett test Dit is 'n toets(In Afrikaans!) And your Swedish test is working. I (and rest of IBM-MAIN) got your test under grave danger! ;-) Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht

Re: [EXTERNAL] Storage hot/cold analysis

2018-07-05 Thread Martin Packer
"Meh" is "meh". :-) If I say "hardly worth looking up" I think you'll get the joke. :-) Cheers, Martin Martin Packer zChampion, Systems Investigator & Performance Troubleshooter, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm

Re: IBM i as JCL replacement (was: Rexx as JCL replacement)

2018-07-05 Thread Charles Mills
Many moons ago we ported a product from z/OS to the AS/400 and were similarly impressed with the sorts of things you mention. The OS was solid as a rock. There is a major learning curve -- the darned thing is unlike any other computer. And many APIs are locked up and not available without some s

Re: IBM i as JCL replacement (was: Rexx as JCL replacement)

2018-07-05 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 1:56 PM Jack J. Woehr wrote: > On 7/4/2018 11:00 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > > JCL has numerous restrictions and inconsistencies due to antiquity, > > IBM i supports Cobol. Come on down :) > ​A few years ago, the IBMi was under consideration to replace our, very old, IBMz.

Re: Function in SDSF to list Dynamic Exits

2018-07-05 Thread mikael.nyst...@seb.se
Det här är ett test -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Function in SDSF to list Dynamic Exits

2018-07-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Rob Scott wrote: >By default, commands that you do not have access to via ISFCMD or group >authority will not appear on the SDSF main menu. Indeed! Please see (watch the wrrap!) this URL: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.isfa500/rescmds.htm ...

Re: [EXTERNAL] Storage hot/cold analysis

2018-07-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote: >Any thoughts on this folks? What you're asking is somewhat ambiguous. What do you mean with 'hot' and 'cold'? Also you said: "active/meh/cold VOLSER/tape volume." What is "meh"? >What are the kind of reports and fields that are worth reporting on. Do you h

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Connect:Direct and VOL=REF ?

2018-07-05 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek)
The use we need to to xfer a tape with multiple files on it (label=1,2,3,) and thus need the vol=ref. The working syntax after a suggestion from ibm is VOL=(,RETAIN,REF=dsn) And since we are using GDG's it must be VOL=(,RETAIN,REF='dsn') -

Re: [EXTERNAL] Storage hot/cold analysis

2018-07-05 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Any thoughts on this folks? - Vignesh Mainframe Infrastructure -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh Sent: 03 July 2018 15:17 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Storage hot/cold analys

Re: Function in SDSF to list Dynamic Exits

2018-07-05 Thread Rob Scott
Skip By default, commands that you do not have access to via ISFCMD or group authority will not appear on the SDSF main menu. You can issue the "SET MENU ALL" to show all commands and unauthorised commands will have the "Status" of "Command not authorized". You can issue "SET MENU HIDE" to rev

Re: ISF.CONNECT.*

2018-07-05 Thread Rob Scott
Barbara, Rocket Software partnered with IBM to enhance SDSF a couple of years ago - the initial result of this work was the SDSFAUX server and the new commands in SPEs for 2.1 and 2.2. SDSF users should only see menu options enabled for commands that they have ISFCMD SAF authority to, this has

Time difference in operating system

2018-07-05 Thread Jake Anderson
Hi I understand that the operating system timing takes from HMC. Still we find a few seconds of difference in Operating system. Does it takes time to percolate and get in sync ? Jake -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archi