Re: SuperWylbur Users

2020-07-06 Thread Timothy Sipples
Tony Harminc wrote: >What is (and will be) the licensing status of SuperWylbur? Is there >potential to turn this into a community maintained project? There are >surely at least hobbyists out there who would love to play with it. That's a good idea. The only caveat I can think of is that sometimes

Re: Storage & tape question

2020-07-06 Thread Timothy Sipples
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >I forgot something obvious for me: NEVER USE TAPES FOR APPLICATION >DATA. No jobs should write or read tapes. >Nothing except backup and restore and (optionally) ML2. Managed by >HSM or FDR. Some excepions for archive copies are worth to consider. I take your point, but "

Re: Storage & tape question

2020-07-06 Thread kekronbekron
Thank you for the detailed response Glenn, IBM-MAIN is truly amazing. > Migrate/Archive > The three purposes of HSM migration are to 1) compress the data so that the > footprint is smaller, 2) move it to a lower cost media so that the TCO is > lower and 3) move the data to an offline media that

Re: Migrate z/OS DASD volumes from Mainframe to Hercules Environment

2020-07-06 Thread Grant Taylor
On 7/5/20 11:31 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: P.S. - At least in my mail client, your email address in the message headers is the listserv web interface, AFAIK it is not possible to email you privately at that address. Thank you for letting me know. gtaylor (at) tnetconsulting (dot) net I

Re: Any interest in PSD I/O for REXX?

2020-07-06 Thread Seymour J Metz
My STOWBLDL routine at http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3/source/STOWBLDL.ASM has code to quiesce a QSAM DCB before going to a new member and reprime buffering afterward; this requires dealing with fields in the SAM-E IOB extension and the SAM-E Interrupt Control Block. I assume that I would need FAM

Re: Any interest in PSD I/O for REXX?

2020-07-06 Thread Steve Smith
I do have access to FAMS, but I don't think you need it to support PDSEs, including member generations. What do you want from it? sas On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 8:02 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > Long ago in a galaxy far away I wrote a subroutine that allows, with a > single OPEN, QSAM I/O in PL/I f

Any interest in PSD I/O for REXX?

2020-07-06 Thread Seymour J Metz
Long ago in a galaxy far away I wrote a subroutine that allows, with a single OPEN, QSAM I/O in PL/I for multiple members. Were I to provide a similar facility for REXX, would that be of interest? Note that I don't have access to FAMS, so this would be strictly PDS. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz

Re: Using SSH and SFTP from Windows to z/OS using authorized_keys ???

2020-07-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 16:12:59 -0600, Grant Taylor wrote: >On 7/6/20 10:41 AM, Allan Staller wrote: >> Until fairly recently,, there was no native ssh client on Windoze. > >There have been native, as in not run in an emulator, SSH / SFTP / SCP >clients on Windows for almost 20 years. > > - PuTTY / P

Re: Using SSH and SFTP from Windows to z/OS using authorized_keys ???

2020-07-06 Thread Grant Taylor
On 7/6/20 10:41 AM, Allan Staller wrote: Until fairly recently,, there was no native ssh client on Windoze. There have been native, as in not run in an emulator, SSH / SFTP / SCP clients on Windows for almost 20 years. - PuTTY / PSFTP / PSCP - Multiple GUI clients; e.g. FileZilla - Cygwin

Re: SuperWylbur Users

2020-07-06 Thread Tony Harminc
On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 07:13, John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote: > Unfortunately SSI is going out of business and is dropping all support Dec. > 31, 2020 and is not guaranteeing that SuperWylbur will work with 2.4 or > beyond. What is (and will be) the licensing status of SuperWylbur? Is there potenti

Re: [External] Re: trying to find IBM problem determination tools studio for downloading

2020-07-06 Thread Pommier, Rex
Thanks, I have z/Explorer on my to-do list for after I have 2.4 up and running this fall. I'll check it out. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 3:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: t

Re: trying to find IBM problem determination tools studio for downloading

2020-07-06 Thread Jousma, David
AFAIK, that is z/explorer, which is a freebie, although I could be wrong. With z/explorer you get more than just the pd tools gui. There are 3 mainframe server tasks to configure- rse, jmon, and the IPV stc. _

Re: SuperWylbur Users

2020-07-06 Thread Longnecker, Dennis
The z/os 1.13 to z/os 2.2 required some changes to all the JES interfacing modules. One of the problems I found is with the my different LPARS, sometimes the JES BASETRAK would be different, so depending on which LPAR it was, I had to change that. I created some automation that determined what

trying to find IBM problem determination tools studio for downloading

2020-07-06 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hi List, As the subject says, I'm looking for a current URL where I can find the latest version (whatever version that is) of the PD Tools Studio software. Supposedly this software is a free download for anybody who has IBM debug tool or FileManager. We have FileManager and I have developers

Re: Metal C and generated Assembler

2020-07-06 Thread Scott Fagen
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 13:59:30 -0400, Steve Smith wrote: >My guess is that something in your inserted prologue/epilogue code contains >a forward-reference that causes HLASM to suspend the location counter in >pre-assembly. > Steve - any idea of what I should be looking for. It's not clear to me how

Re: Using SSH and SFTP from Windows to z/OS using authorized_keys ???

2020-07-06 Thread Kirk Wolf
On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 11:42 AM Allan Staller wrote: > Until fairly recently,, there was no native ssh client on Windoze. > > I'm not sure what you mean - ssh clients like PuTTY have been around many years. There are a ton of them. If you meant "OpenSSH", then it is true that the Microsoft Pow

Re: Metal C and generated Assembler

2020-07-06 Thread Steve Smith
My guess is that something in your inserted prologue/epilogue code contains a forward-reference that causes HLASM to suspend the location counter in pre-assembly. The message (ASMA032E) is a prime example of the anti-pattern of issuing an error message that makes you guess which of the listed poss

Re: Storage & tape question

2020-07-06 Thread Glenn Wilcock
A few thoughts: Migrate/Archive The three purposes of HSM migration are to 1) compress the data so that the footprint is smaller, 2) move it to a lower cost media so that the TCO is lower and 3) move the data to an offline media that doesn't consume online UCBs. When considering bringing all o

Re: Storage & tape question

2020-07-06 Thread Jackson, Rob
Nope. I meant what I said. 300 MB/s. It is what it is. First Horizon Bank Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 12:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Storage & tape questio

Re: Storage & tape question

2020-07-06 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hi Allan, Nope, he meant MB. The number Rob is talking about it thruput. You pay for the capacity of the pipeline for ingesting data into the VTS in 100 MB/second increments. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Monday, July 6,

Metal C and generated Assembler

2020-07-06 Thread Scott Fagen
I have a Metal C program where I am trying to add some static data via an __asm(“…” : DS(staticdata)) statement, but I am having some issues with the generated assembler code. When I use my own prolog and epilog code, I get: 0007E60 009A8 1997 CKKTESTR CSECT ,

Re: [External] Re: Vtoc and index sizing based on Mods

2020-07-06 Thread Allan Staller
There are still some minor issues involved w/vvds, etc. placement, but there are very moinr, and for most volumes will make zero difference. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 10:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Storage & tape question

2020-07-06 Thread Allan Staller
ITYM TB, not MB -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jackson, Rob Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 9:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Storage & tape question [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you trust the sender, Don’

Re: Using SSH and SFTP from Windows to z/OS using authorized_keys ???

2020-07-06 Thread Allan Staller
Until fairly recently,, there was no native ssh client on Windoze. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 9:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Using SSH and SFTP from Windows to z/OS using authorized_keys

Re: Using SSH and SFTP from Windows to z/OS using authorized_keys ???

2020-07-06 Thread Kirk Wolf
Lionel, I use Windows as little as possible, but having tried most of the Windows ssh/sftp GUI clients, I would suggest that you look at the free Bitvise ( http://bitvise.com) ssh/sftp client. - it includes a nice interface that gives you both ssh shell and sftp using the same connection. - you ca

Re: IHS NTLM authentication

2020-07-06 Thread Grant Taylor
On 7/6/20 8:56 AM, Jantje. wrote: Dear listers, Hi, Would any of you have implemented the NTLM authentication scheme in their IBM HTTP Server by Apache on z/OS? This would require the mod_ntlm2, but the Sourceforge files date from 2003, does not seem to support NTLM v2, which is a requireme

Re: [External] Re: Vtoc and index sizing based on Mods

2020-07-06 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hi Peter, I don't think anybody answered this question. With modern (read: emulated) boxes I've been told the location of the VTOC/VTOCIX/VVDS don't matter anymore. Back in the SLED days I was a stickler for placing the VTOC & IX 1/3 of the way into the volume, right next to each other to tr

Re: Mainframe co-op

2020-07-06 Thread Christian Svensson
That's correct, happy to answer any questions about the project :-) Possibly as a new thread it better suited. Deeply honored to be mentioned on this list, thanks Grant! On Sat, Jul 4, 2020, 09:52 Mike Schwab wrote: > I would assume the goal to be 'use PC disks as mainframe DASD'. > > On Sat,

Re: Storage & tape question

2020-07-06 Thread Jackson, Rob
We have a three-way TS7760 grid--all mirrors of each other. DR box is a TS7760T with a 3584, with some 650 tapes, or so. Yes, it's very much different. With IBM's VTSs you pay for bandwidth. We license 300 MB/s, for instance, on each cluster. If I remember correctly, you can go up to 700 MB

Re: Using SSH and SFTP from Windows to z/OS using authorized_keys ???

2020-07-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 09:25:35 -0500, John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote: >Not that mystifying. None of those tools try and do key authentication by >default. You need to configure them to use key by telling them which key file >to use. > What is wrong with Windows!? I just tried a synthetic sftp://..

IHS NTLM authentication

2020-07-06 Thread Jantje.
Dear listers, Would any of you have implemented the NTLM authentication scheme in their IBM HTTP Server by Apache on z/OS? This would require the mod_ntlm2, but the Sourceforge files date from 2003, does not seem to support NTLM v2, which is a requirement. Besides, I need to authenticate users

Re: Storage & tape question

2020-07-06 Thread kekronbekron
Hmm... do a lot of shops use actual cart based tapes ... TS77xx with TS4x00? Don't know if EMC DLm has a cart back-end option. If it's VTL with disk back-end, is that any different from having it all on DASD? - KB ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, July 6, 2020 4:25 PM, R.S. wrote:

Re: Assembler question

2020-07-06 Thread Mike Schwab
01 records start on a double word boundary x'0' or x'8' as the last digit. 77 independent items are sorted by multiple of 8 byte items, 4 bytes items, 2 bytes items, odd number of bytes items. On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 10:00 AM Binyamin Dissen wrote: > > Then one wonders what "aligned" means to you.

Re: Using SSH and SFTP from Windows to z/OS using authorized_keys ???

2020-07-06 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
Not that mystifying. None of those tools try and do key authentication by default. You need to configure them to use key by telling them which key file to use. Never tried I/O redirection for sending files using just "ssh", so I'm not sure. I 99% sure it would work with Cygwin, never used

Re: Using SSH and SFTP from Windows to z/OS using authorized_keys ???

2020-07-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 07:56:27 -0500, Lionel B Dyck wrote: >John - thank you - I've got the authorized_keys file in place which allows me >to use ssh/sftp from windows to z/OS without being prompted for a password. > >I've not figured out the correct incantation to get filezilla/winscp/putty to >ho

Re: Using SSH and SFTP from Windows to z/OS using authorized_keys ???

2020-07-06 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
Oh, just as a F.Y.I, WinSCP and Putty only support using Putty's PPK file format. Filezilla supports both Putty's PPK format and OpenSSH PEM file format. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send em

Re: Vtoc and index sizing based on Mods

2020-07-06 Thread Steve Smith
Simple formulae: * # VTOC tracks = (max # datasets you want to have on the volume + max # datasets with > 3 extents + max # EAS datasets + 5) / 50. * # VTOCIX tracks = (max # datasets + 5) / 21; I'd let SMS take care of the VVDS; it can grow if needed. Things that should go without saying (becau

Re: Using SSH and SFTP from Windows to z/OS using authorized_keys ???

2020-07-06 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
Ah. I have Cygwin installed on my Windows computer and I always use command line. In each of those you need to point to the private key file on your Windows host. For WinSCP edit your connection and select advanced. Look for Authentication under SSH and point to your private key. For Putty

Re: SuperWylbur Users

2020-07-06 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
It is still distributed with full source code. Typically is new JES2 releases that require modules to be re-assembles. I can't really remember the last time we had to re-assemble or make any changes because of z/OS upgrades. ---

Re: Using SSH and SFTP from Windows to z/OS using authorized_keys ???

2020-07-06 Thread Lionel B Dyck
John - thank you - I've got the authorized_keys file in place which allows me to use ssh/sftp from windows to z/OS without being prompted for a password. I've not figured out the correct incantation to get filezilla/winscp/putty to honor it however. Lionel B. Dyck < Website: https://www.lbdsof

Re: Using SSH and SFTP from Windows to z/OS using authorized_keys ???

2020-07-06 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
I think somehow you might be able to do this in RACF, but we don't. Your public key on the Windows host needs to be added to the file "authorized_keys". Needs to be in your home directory on the z/OS system in the .ssh sub-directory. So if your home is "/home/lbdyck" on z/OS this would be

Re: Using SSH and SFTP from Windows to z/OS using authorized_keys ???

2020-07-06 Thread Lionel B Dyck
Now that I have ssh/sftp working from the command line on windows - what is the secret to getting filezilla/putty/winscp to work with the keys without requiring a password? Lionel B. Dyck < Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com "Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character i

Re: Vtoc and index sizing based on Mods

2020-07-06 Thread R.S.
W dniu 04.07.2020 o 19:12, Peter pisze: Hello Group Apology for being ignorant. Is there a formula or any constraints for initialising a specific dasd Mod ? How do arrive to a specific vtoc and index value while initialising a dasd ? Please help me to understand There is no formula. No *s

Re: Storage & tape question

2020-07-06 Thread R.S.
I forgot something obvious for me: NEVER USE TAPES FOR APPLICATION DATA. No jobs should write or read tapes. Nothing except backup and restore and (optionally) ML2. Managed by HSM or FDR. Some excepions for archive copies are worth to consider. Note: you may have 15 years old backup on new shinin

Re: Storage & tape question

2020-07-06 Thread R.S.
W dniu 05.07.2020 o 14:12, kekronbekron pisze: Hello List, Just wondering ... assuming there's a primary storage product out there that can store how-many-ever hoo-haa-bytes, and is a good product in general, it should make sense to begin eliminating all tape (3490/3590) use right? First, ML1

Re: Assembler question

2020-07-06 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Then one wonders what "aligned" means to you. On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 02:37:22 + "Gibney, Dave" wrote: :>Actually, it is. But, BLA-2 below is still offset 3 bytes from BLA-RECORD because BLA-1 is only 3 bytes long :> :>> -Original Message- :>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On :>>