Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times

2022-07-10 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 9/07/2022 1:10 am, Colin Paice wrote: I was told If it executes 1. a million times a second - write in assembler 2. a thousand times a second write it in cobol or C 3. once a second - write it in Java 4. Else /bash/rexx/ Probably not an accurate picture these days. It would

Re: Converting assembler to COBOL help

2022-07-10 Thread Mitch Mccluhan
Hello, There is a vendor BP that does this sort of thing with an automated tool. Mitch -Original Message- From: W Mainframe <01304632a58d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Sat, Jul 9, 2022 9:23 am Subject: Re: Converting assembler to COBOL

Re: How do I issue a command with a blank in it?

2022-07-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 11:51:29 -0400, David Spiegel wrote: >Hi Gil, >You said: "..as XEDIT and "sed" do ..." >IIRC, TSO Edit should be included in this list. > Not in my list. On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 16:06:18 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >A space in an operator command is the separator between

Re: How do I issue a command with a blank in it?

2022-07-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
A space in an operator command is the separator between operand and comment. That means that space has to be treated differently from other characters. What the RFE would ask for is to suspend that special treatment for spaces within framiong characters. I don't know how difficult it would be

Re: How do I issue a command with a blank in it?

2022-07-10 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Gil, You said: "..as XEDIT and "sed" do ..." IIRC, TSO Edit should be included in this list. Regards, David On 2022-07-10 11:31, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 13:11:17 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: ... if someone were able to do an RFE with a compelling business case to

Re: How do I issue a command with a blank in it?

2022-07-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 13:11:17 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >... > if someone were able to do an RFE with a compelling business case to allow > embedded spaces within all quoted text. > Why should that be hard? It's simply a matter of *not* treating as an exception. >... It would also

Re: IBM product numbers - where to find?

2022-07-10 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
Oh, it's even more complex. Sometimes the product is a product itself, but THIS SHOP has a bundle, which is another contract position. And the bundle may consist of products or ... bundled products. Yes - bundle within bundle. BTDT. In some cases software inventory can be really complex. SMP/E,

Re: [EXTERNAL] FedEx to move entirely to the cloud

2022-07-10 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
How many years? Well, I know a banking company which moves off mainframe. 10 years. They even claimed success, but... But still all the processing is being done on mainframe. And the money is spent on Windows servers. Hundreds. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland

Re: IBM product numbers - where to find?

2022-07-10 Thread Itschak Mugzach
tx Radoslav, Actually we are only interested in what a specific smp/e has. `the answer is in the product record and it is sufficient for us. Best, ITschak *| **Itschak Mugzach | Director | SecuriTeam Software **|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for Z/OS,

Re: How do I issue a command with a blank in it?

2022-07-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
Well, MODIFY is handled entirely by MGCR inside the Communication Task, while START is also processed by the Master Scheduler. I'm not sure at what point in the processing the fourth START parameter goes into the START CIB. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: How do I issue a command with a blank in it?

2022-07-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
My primary concern was to not leave newbies guessing, although I would certainly be pleased if someone were able to do an RFE with a compelling business case to allow embedded spaces within all quoted text. It would also be nice if they could justify allowing quotes as an alternative framing

Re: [EXTERNAL] FedEx to move entirely to the cloud

2022-07-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
This is the same company that couldn't deliver a tape to the Goddard Modelling and Simulation Facility Because there was no street address. Maybe it's changed, but at the time the Goddard Space Flight Center had building numbers and didn't have street addresses. They were probably the only

Re: Converting assembler to COBOL help

2022-07-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
Run some hairy test cases and evaluate the outputs for, e.g., completeness, effort for manual recodeing of anything not automatically converted, efficiency, readability, maintainability. It's a lot harder to do it well than to just do it. Using a program that only translates 75% of a module

Re: Converting assembler to COBOL help

2022-07-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
Automatic conversion of assembler code has been around for decades. And, yes, it is a bear for complicated architectures and a lot of work even for simple machines. BTDT,GTA. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe

Re: AW: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times

2022-07-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
The selection of "best language" is subjective and IMHO it makes more sense to talk about the best language s for specific problem domains. I'd rank PL/I above HLASM, but must admit to supplementing my PL/I programming with utility subroutines written in assembler. For processing large arrays,

Re: Java (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

2022-07-10 Thread Rony
> > Am 09.07.2022 um 06:31 schrieb David Crayford : > > On 8/07/2022 7:43 pm, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: >>> On 08.07.2022 03:38, David Crayford wrote: >>> On 7/07/2022 7:53 pm, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: > When I select a language for a job, one of the things that I look at is > the

Re: Java (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

2022-07-10 Thread Rony
Am 09.07.2022 um 03:15 schrieb David Crayford : > > On 8/07/2022 7:17 pm, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: >>> On 07.07.2022 17:45, David Crayford wrote: >>> On 7/07/2022 7:53 pm, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: On 06.07.2022 11:03, Seymour J Metz wrote: >> ... cut ... There is one ecosystem

Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times

2022-07-10 Thread Rony
> Am 08.07.2022 um 17:10 schrieb Colin Paice : > > I was told > If it executes > > 1. a million times a second - write in assembler > 2. a thousand times a second write it in cobol or C > 3. once a second - write it in Java > 4. Else /bash/rexx/ > > Though if it executes once a year

Re: AW: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times

2022-07-10 Thread Leonard D Woren
Mike Beer wrote on 7/7/2022 10:55 PM: Other candidates could include PL/I - which is/was very common in Europe - Even though I haven't written a PL/I program since college, I still think it's the second-best language and I'm disappointed that it's rarely used in the USA.  (Best language?