Re: Strange FTP behavior

Hi Something I didn't include in my original post The Linux path from where the file is being GET to mainframe. The Linux path is mounted to a windows server, so the file is available in windows but mapped to LINUX So as a test I copied the file to Linux local disk and tried ftp and the get oper

Assembler courses

You might take a look also at this book, author: Carmine A. Cannatello "Advanced assembler language and MVS interfaces (2nd ed.): for IBM systems and application programmers" https://dl.acm.org/profile/81100290810 -- Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast-Antivirussoftware auf Viren geprüft. www.avast.c

Re: Assembler courses

The 2nd edition is selling for $291.03. That's a lot of money for a book. On 2022-09-18 06:09, Arthur Fichtl wrote: You might take a look also at this book, author: Carmine A. Cannatello "Advanced assembler language and MVS interfaces (2nd ed.): for IBM systems and application programmers" h

Re: Assembler courses

Twenty years ago I wrote a few programs for Excel, and didn't see what all the fuss was about: "object-oriented" didn't seem very different from traditional programming that I'd been doing for 25 years. (At the same time I was frequently infuriated at the message "...does not support this prope

Latin

"Emmanuel", indeed :). I never took Latin (and I was astonished when I learned that my youngest daughter was taking it in high school; I thought it had long disappeared entirely from the public schools, but apparently not), and my upbringing was Episcopal not Catholic, so I never experienced th

Re: Assembler courses

I don’t know if someone on the assembler list mentioned this already, but https://idcp.marist.edu/documents/33945/44724/Assembler.V2.alntext+V2.00.pdf/ad61965e-8485-65e1-f385-e5cd56f08c63?t=1551806232272

Re: Assembler courses

Hi Bob, I think about a USING statement as a "promise" that a register will contain an appropriate address at runtime. The statement: USING MyArea,R9 means (to me): I promise that at runtime register 9 will contain the address of an area that is mapped (described) by the DSECT called My

Re: Latin

In the 1960's Latin was still highly recommended in the U.S. for anyone expecting to attend college.   If you started in 9th grade, you could even take 4 years of Latin by graduation from high school, although many college-bound students elected only 2 and took either some French or Spanish.  S

Re: Latin

Hi Joel, To your point, I read an article on German grammar (same as Yiddish) to figure out the difference between "mir" and "mich". It turns out that one is dative and the other is accusative. Without learning Latin (more than 50 years ago), this article would've been a lot harder to read. R

Re: Latin

If it were up to me, students would be required to learn languages from multiple families. I'd probably treat Germanic and Romance as separate rather than lumping them together as Indo'European. ObTMTOWTDI The same applies to programming languages; I'd require learning several languages with dr

Re: Assembler courses

I haven't read it, but surely nobody could question the credentials of the author (ז״ל). I miss him. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of René Jansen [rene.v

Re: Latin

Given how much scientific nomenclature derives from Greek and Latin, I don't see either as obsolete, and Latin might help the learning of other Romance languages. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion Li

Re: Assembler courses

The OO concepts might be clearer in, e.g., ooREXX, Smalltalk. USING is a pseudo-op that tells the assembler how to translate between a symbolic address and a base-displacement pair. In its simplest form it is only a promise that particular registers will point to particular addresses. It's prob

Re: Assembler courses

Pascal doesn't have associative arrays. Perhaps you are thinking of Delphi? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] Sent: Sat

Re: Assembler courses

I've been around longer than that and have needed assembler in every job I've had, although there were a few short assignments that didn't require any assembler. YMMV/ -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussi

Re: dfsort - microseconds (STCK/TOD)

Hi Kolusu, Now I get this, which looks better, but seams still not to be correct: ... 2022-09-12T13:55:27.836152+:00 2022-09-12T13:55:27.836152+:00 ... 2022-09-12T13:57:28.836152+:00 2022-09-12T13:57:29.836152+:00 2022-09-12T13:57:30.836152+:00 2022-09-12T13:57:59.836153+:0

Re: Output redirection

In a TSO address space you can push a stack element that routes input and/or output through a dataset; that won't affect direct TGET or TPUT. I don't know what complications Unix System Services adds. As others have suggested, you can always run a batch job with SYSTSPRT allocated to a dataset,

Net nanny voodoo [was: RE: Assembler courses]

Wow, talk about "nanny state" link protection - have a gander at the hugely complex mess that René's perfectly reasonable links to the IDCP and Marist copies of Mr. Ehrman's opus turned into below. Someone else's web link safety filter added "https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com"; aro

Re: Net nanny voodoo [was: RE: Assembler courses]

Net Nannies embody an advanced technology known as Artificial Stupidity (AS); this same technology can be seen in rext to voice and voice to text features, as well as in filters that block legitimate medical sites while failing to block some pornographic sites. In this case I believe that the da

Re: Latin

The last Dominus vobiscum was about all I remember, because it woke me up around time to go home :) On 9/18/2022 6:17 AM, Bob Bridges wrote: "Emmanuel", indeed :). I never took Latin (and I was astonished when I learned that my youngest daughter was taking it in high school; I thought it had

Re: Assembler courses

Ah... Visual Basic. OO certainly does make sense with Windows programming (and I assume other GUI's). The idea of the GUI writers to send messages back and forth between "objects" is genius. So each bit of code (say for a button or a text box object) just sits there doing nothing until a mes

Re: Net nanny voodoo [was: RE: Assembler courses]

And ahem, human (self-censored) is not trimming the whole fluckin' mess when you reply to posts. Robert -- Robert AH Prins robert(a)prino(d)org The hitchhiking grandfather Some REXX code for use on z/OS ---

Re: Net nanny voodoo [was: RE: Assembler courses]

On Sun, 18 Sep 2022 18:51:56 +, Robert Prins wrote: >And ahem, human (self-censored) is not trimming the whole fluckin' mess >when you reply to posts. > Ergonomics. It wastes time and energy to press the Delete key so many times. And it may be illegal to remove the originator's legal notice

Re: Net nanny voodoo [was: RE: Assembler courses]

On Sun, 18 Sep 2022 16:35:57 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Net Nannies embody an advanced technology known as Artificial Stupidity (AS); >this same technology can be seen in rext to voice and voice to text features, >as well as in filters that block legitimate medical sites while failing to >bl

Re: Latin

I am grateful that I took four years of Latin in high school. It helps so much with English and other languages too! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 9:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Latin "Emm

Re: Latin

No english verson of "Adeste fideles"? In German we have one (since centuries, I believe): "Herbei, o Ihr Glaeubigen" (I omitted the Umlaut) one of the more powerful Christmas songs IMO Kind regards Bernd Am 18.09.2022 um 15:17 schrieb Bob Bridges: "Emmanuel", indeed :). I never took Latin

Re: Assembler courses

When you enter a program, R15 points to the first byte of PROGNAME. You usually have a USING R15,PROGNAME. If you are going to be calling OS functions or programs, you will copy R15 to another register (often R12), issue a USING R12,PROGNAME and DROP R15,PROGNAME. So when using a label within 4K o

Re: Latin

There's an English version ("Oh come, all ye faithful"). But of course it isn't an exact translation, and anyway sometimes I just ~like~ the Latin words. "Deum de Deo, lumen de lumine, deum verum, genitum non factum; venite adoremus...". --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-73

Re: Assembler courses

You may be right; I've never had occasion to try write OO programs on the mainframe. But when I write classes in VBA, I'm not thinking primarily of sending messages between GUI objects (though you may argue that's exactly what I'm doing whether I think of it that way or not); to me it seems tha

Re: Latin

Yes! I took two years of classical Greek (I was going to be a religion major, at the time), which was my first introduction to heavily inflected languages. When I went back to take some more French, I discovered that everything I had not understood about the subjunctive mood in French back in

Re: Net nanny voodoo [was: RE: Assembler courses]

On Sun, 18 Sept 2022 at 12:16, Farley, Peter x23353 < 031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Wow, talk about "nanny state" link protection - have a gander at the > hugely complex mess that René's perfectly reasonable links to the IDCP and > Marist copies of Mr. Ehrman's opus turn

Re: Latin

I had a class on medical terminology when I worked at a hospital. No need to learn Latin. While Latin might make some feel superior, learning Spanish or Chinese would probably be far more useful. Most Americans are pathetic, unilingual speakers, while most of the world is multilingual. Having tr

Re: Assembler courses

Sometimes R15 contains the entry point. If the routine receives control from ATTACHX or LINKX, for instance, and if it is to run in AMODE(64), then it does not. A better solution is to use LARL R12,PROGNAME USING PROGNAME, R12 which has no dependency on R15. Tom Harper Phoenix Software Int

Re: Assembler courses

On Sun, Sep 18, 2022, 18:16 Tom Harper wrote: > Sometimes R15 contains the entry point. > > If the routine receives control from ATTACHX or LINKX, for instance, and > if it is to run in AMODE(64), then it does not. > > A better solution is to use > > LARL R12,PROGNAME > USING PROGNAME, R12 > > wh

Re: Assembler courses

> I've never had occasion to try write OO programs on the mainframe. > to me it seems that the chief value of classes and class methods is a > way of organizing my subroutines and functions and limiting their > scope to particular uses which seems to me would be useful in some > mainframe pro

Re: Latin

On Sun, 18 Sept 2022 at 19:00, Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I had a class on medical terminology when I worked at a hospital. No need > to learn Latin. While Latin might make some feel superior, learning Spanish > or Chinese would probably be far more use

Re: Latin

Vade vilis. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, September 18, 2022, 8:43 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: On Sun, 18 Sept 2022 at 19:00, Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I had a class on medical terminology when I worked at a hospital. No need > to learn

Re: Assembler courses

Yes, I didn't think to put it that way at first but it's a good way of phrasing it: In OO coding I'm creating a number of packages, and I find its easier to organize their interactions (and to remember how they must interact) when I do it that way. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell

Re: Latin

Romanes eunt domus! On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 7:59 PM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Vade vilis. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, September 18, 2022, 8:43 PM, Tony Harminc > wrote: > > On Sun, 18 Sept 2022 at 19:00, Bill Johnson < > 00

Re: How to use LISTDSI from Rexx under Unix shell?

WTF? TSO has supported LRECL=255 for over half a century. Don't be confused by IBM shipping code in an archaic form factor. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Friday, Sep

Re: Assembler courses

On 9/18/2022 4:15 PM, Tom Harper wrote: Sometimes R15 contains the entry point. If the routine receives control from ATTACHX or LINKX, for instance, and if it is to run in AMODE(64), then it does not. A better solution is to use LARL R12,PROGNAME USING PROGNAME, R12 which has no dependency o

Re: dfsort - microseconds (STCK/TOD)

>> but seems still not to be correct: Stefan, You need to explain it a bit more when you say the results are NOT correct. Is it the duplicated data ? or the value itself is wrong? How are you verifying the results? Dump the contents of position 393,8 in hex for may be 20-30 records and then we

Re: dfsort - microseconds (STCK/TOD)

Kolusu, Sorry, I thought it to be clear. This are IMS transactions timestamps, occurring every x seconds or so: ... 2022-09-12T13:55:27.836152+:00 2022-09-12T13:55:27.836152+:00 ... 2022-09-12T13:57:28.836152+:00 2022-09-12T13:57:29.836152+:00 2022-09-12T13:57:30.836152+:00 20