You're an enthusiastic prosletisor of the panacea you believe in!
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submitted a job, much less to where, and AFAIK has no facilities to track and
report the results or behavior of such jobs.
CA7, at least, has the capability of tracking 'non-scheduled' jobs through a
reporting utility the job must invoke.
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Cancelling a job due to lines exceeded is, generally, bad practice.
Who are you to determine the needs of the user (whom you are [supposedly]
supporting).
I know there is the potential of a looping job; that doesn't sound like the
case, here.
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I hope there's still some sort of centralised control and/or library.
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It seemed to work.
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I started as a JCL jockey in Prod Support, under MVS.
It was still supported, then (pre-XA).
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04A data set opened for output used all space available to or on the
current volume, and no more volumes were available.
Change the JCL to specify more volumes.
Won't work for a PDS(E).
They can't span volumes.
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PDS cannot spanned volumes, PDSE maybe??? (I forget but maybe not)
Neither.
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But, teto!
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That is why I fill the first track with directory blocks, as I said.
If there is no space on the first track, how can a member occupy any part of it?
Or, did you not read my post?
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Why overkill?
45 blocks fill a track, and I'm anal enough to like the first member to start
on a track boundary.
PS: I'm too anal retentive to have OCD!
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I have NO idea what your point is!
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o Were the SCRT report and the zFS file on the same system? If so, why not
use IEBGENER?
Or OCOPY?
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There arw more details, but I did say 'simple'.
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to brute-force mine!
In my case, the term 'word' in password is a misnomer.
I won't even tell you how I come up with mine, but letters in my case are rare,
even in 'long' ones?
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You can call CLIST from CLIST with %clist.
Or EXEC from, etc.
Just with REXX it must be: %EXEC (or, %CLIST).
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are SYSPROGs!
Which means they facilitate apps.
NOT set arbitrary rules!
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I understand.
But, that's why there are standards.
You backed down when you shouldn't have.
My complaint is the dictatorial SYSPROG.
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IIRC, one of the 'Z' variable in ISPF contains the active SYSPLEX name and
another the current SYSID.
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What does this have to do with anything?
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Maybe they are keeping current; NOT worrying about differences that are moot?
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Yes, but the article blames COBOL.
There are two kinds of fools:
1. Those who say This is old, therefore bad.
2. Those who say: This is new, therefore better.
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Not all of us are, though.
If we wish to stay employed, we must follow their directives.
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The last shop I worked at shelved all plans as soon as IBM changed direction.
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That, in a nutshell, was the issue in the two places I worked that was
considered unacceptable before IBM shelved it.
Totally unpalatable, afterwards.
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Two places I worked at, since the whole overblown issue came up had the same
response by management: If it ain't broke
Plus, there are always other things to do.
Now, that IBM has backed off ...
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Preach all you want.
It's management who sets priorities.
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understood is an idiot! Do you understand?
Voice from back of class: No Sir!
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It's a bona fide US holiday, which trumps even Friday.
I disagree. Many on the list are not Americans.
You didn't hear any of we Canadians trumpeting our holiday on July 1st.
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I don't like the Friday digressions!
Sheesh. Insensitive Americans...
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INITSQA started as soon as 65-bit started -- OS/390 2.10.
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I believe it's based on the first id retrieved from the RACF database that
matches.
Try asking on the RACF or MBS-OE lists.
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to
understand your data?
It would take the computer programme that ate Manhattan to have enough code to
decode everything.
Then, there's finding the data.
How does a single vendor know enough to write code to interpret naming
conventions of DataSets, then read and understand the data?
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requirements.
If it was just that I would not have responded.
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There is only ONE (pseudo-)University from Canada on the list!
Canadian colleges don't cut it!
Therefore: there is NO commitment in Canada.
And, no propaganda will change that.
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I believe it is.
In Canada DEFINITELY!!
To the point the University of Waterloo stopped requiring COBOL for co-ops for
their first academic terms in 1993 (ish).
Then, all the CDN banks (I was employed at one, then) dropped out of the
programme.
If that's changed: BONUS!
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No Universities!
Well one on the list.
But, it's just a college on steroids.
In Canada, a college is a MUCH lower level than universities are.
Barely a step above occs.
I know I responded to my own post.
But, it's BOGUS!
(I know it's also a little elitist; it is what it is).
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Perhaps you are keeping bad company. While humans are not perfect, there are
methods to improve code reliability.
In 30+ years, I've worked for 6 companies.
Gee, they all must be bad company!
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.
But, it's been over 30 years since I cared about that level of detail; I don't
know if it's still true (or, really, ever was)
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Easy for you to way!
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I am a little weary of correcting misapprehensions.
Who asked you to?
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-Toothpicks does that mean?)
They did a similar thing with:
PCB -- before I ever even became aware of IMS it meant (to me) Printed Circuit
Board.
ATM -- I thought it meant Automated Teller Machine.
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Can't all that be forged, perhaps by a programmer who feels the need to make a
last-minute tweak and feels unfairly burdened by the process?
Isn't that what change these to be the same amounts to?
Unfairly burdened by doing their job?
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in Disaster Recovery Magazine.
It's the unforeseen that crunches you in the butt!
Nobody even thought about it until Katrina.
Your technical plan may be perfect; it can all fall apart on people and
logistical problems.
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How does this help discovering an already changed, yet forgotten, password?
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was introduced.
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-fits-all, magic bullet, I guess your needs
weren't met.
After all, all of the suggestions required some work on your part.
Don't ever expect any suggestions from me anymore.
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is this documented?
Or, am I misreading this post and it only applies to DB2's allocations?
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and since machines went beyond 300 MIPS/CP.
Also, how can you discuss performance and REXX in the same sentence?
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Or, the delay in problem solving due to under-resourced staff.
Or, ... ...
But, it's not my shop! TETO!
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Then why do the answers to my diatribe looks like they don't see this as a
problem ?
It's not that it's not a problem.
It's just that there is 35+ years of prior art that your shop seems to be
ignoring.
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stuff
address TSO
FREE FI(ISPFILE)
SUB dsn
DEL dsn
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Way too complicated!
Just dynamically allocated/de- as needed for each file tailoring dialogue.
That way you can control the dsn sizes any way your lil ol heart desires.
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Windows make work until the disk is full. And that is what we want!
I don't think so.
Windows, in general, is a dedicated single user system. This philosophy is fine
in that environment.
But, in a shared system, you are NOT the only one affected by full disks!
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, therefore better.
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Why complicate your logon PROC?
I prefer just the ISPCTLx.
And, just allocate and de-allocate as your file tailoring requires.
But, teto.
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Yes, there is the presumed overallocation with release solution. But many (if
not most) allocations don't work with release at allocation. In most cases
this causes waste of space and still x37's.
Whoa! I'd like to see some examples of such broad (if not, exaggerated)
statement!
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They couldn't care less.
They couldn't care less?
About doing their job?
You have a bigger problem than x37 abends!
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At least space management is Space Management's job.
Production support is Production Support's job.
Or else, what are they doing?
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Zed [in Canada, after all).
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ANTMAIN is one of the tasks IBM automatically assigns to SYSTEM, iirc.
So, if this is (still) true, the answer is YES.
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But does not catch values that are not multiples of 4. I suppose it's
slightly more plausible that a future extension introduce RC=20 than that it
introduce RC=3.
ISPF functions do return RC=20.
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Perhaps we all should consider a better use of our time than worrying about
inconsequential things such as duplicate jobs being submitted? (8-{]}
I, for one, do not understand what the problem is. (8-{[}
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How is this a problem.
The jobs can only use one initiator at a time.
The waiting jobs only tie up some SPOOL space.
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As I have said previously, just use TYPRUN=HOLD. That will solve your problem.
How since only one initiator is in use?
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Just my opinion.
Frank
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Sorry.
No insult
Sorry.
No insult intended.
But, you've been z/OS for what 3 years?
How would you feel if a bunch of MVS'rs came and b*tched about 40+ years of VSE
practices that I'm sure are just as ingrained?
How can you know where I'm at if you ain't where I've been?
Understand where I'm coming from?
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How much does an initiator cost?
Nothing until you run short of them
But, it's still inelegant.
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Which shops allow test/development jobs under control of a scheduler?
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Because what's past is prologue.
Until 10-12 years ago, you couldn't do it in a JES2 shop.
Now, it's ingrained and too many people/processes depend on it.
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Management.
Territorialism.
Because?
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on
that (possibly poor) behaviour.
Sea change is not an option.
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I've worked for 8 shops in the past 32 years and not one has allowed
test/development use the scheduler.
Production? Yes.
Productivity? No.
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.
How many of your staff were new to z/OS?
They're used to a specific idiosyncracy!
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Why do it that way? If you know enough about the job to create a rule to change
the job at submission, you know enough to create a WLM classification rule.
You also won't have to worry about timing.
When the only tool you have is a hammer, all problems look like nails!
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DSN not Catalogued.
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Reply
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Great
That's what I said.
You'd get a message along the lines of:
... paging already active on volume pp ...
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almost lost his job.
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your case I would hypethosis it tries the first page dataset on a volume and
only uses the second if the first one is still busy.
I don't know how it works post-PAV.
But, before that you could only have one active PAGE D/S per pack.
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to your largest user base?
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then.
3290's not so much.
Anybody remember String-Switching and Fixed-Head 3350's?
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Ted MacNEIL wrote:
Customer:
The example on page 666 is wrong!
IBM:
So what? It's only an example!
Customer:
How do I ... ?
IBM:
See the example on page 666.
When you write this without a 'grin' I must
and the one-cylinder double up of PLPA (because I
couldn't convince management to do something new).
And, I couldn't convince them to exploit PAV to put more on the same pack.
Oh, and I did go with 'full pack' locals -- within the size constraint of max
PAGED/S size.
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/add
stats.
No need to invest in another product.
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your point regarding functionality.
Unfortunately, functioning and performing are some/many times walking in
different directions.
But, they are converging in z/OS, more every year.
I think the two best things in the last 15 are WLM PAV!
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Customer:
The example on page 666 is wrong!
IBM:
So what? It's only an example!
Customer:
How do I ... ?
IBM:
See the example on page 666.
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to change these thresholds, but I don't know
when it dropped.
Either at ESA, or when the manual became two.
And, I can't recall what happens if you PAGEADD differing sizes, especially
smaller.
But, enough digression:
ALL Page D/S should be the same size.
Including contingency.
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IFASMFDP with OPTIONS(DUMP).
Just check the SMF Manual for exact syntax.
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If I remember correctly, there is also an issue of the number of paths
available; fewer, larger volumes = fewer paths = more I/O contention. (This
may be an old issue that is no longer relevant.)
Pretty well with PAV HIPERPAV.
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had a similar epiphany about 8 lustra ago
Wow! You're almost as pretentious a Gilmore!
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I must be a dummy.
I read it -- I entered the University of Waterloo in 1976.
And, I NEVER understood the bennies of readahead.
To me, there is no major difference in the coding.
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SDSF/SYSVIEW vs CONSOLE/Operator commands.
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are they doing the job they're hired for?
I, as a rule, do my job and leave the complex work arounds alone.
I think you're giving your programmers too much credit.
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. Npt confuse.
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