Again an anecdote from an unnamed tiny MVS shop; one of the 3 sysprogs
would modify one of the commonly used logon procs during lunch hour when
'almost' all the users were out. Just before saving it and testing it
he'd stand on his chair and yell to the other 2: DON'T LOG OFF, DON'T
LOG OFF!
Thank you EE, for stirring up a not so pleasant memory. I once worked
at a very small MVS shop where the one and only TSO proc was crippled by
human factors. Luckily we had a pirate copy of SAE.
Hint: Whenever one modifies a logon procedure, before saving, submit it.
On 7/7/2015 8:07 AM,
Charles, you are a far braver man than I. If this were in place I
couldn't sleep.
Signed,
Old Guy Easily Frightened.
On 7/2/2015 4:25 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
Thanks. I did not have a convenient way to do yyddd but I did at least
change it to
SYS%.T%%.RA000.**
Yes, it will get a
I have converted delimited files into nice mainframe centric fixed
position datasets. Here's an skeleton of an example of taking a file
that came from EXCEL as TXT tab delimited and became a friendly dataset.
In this case I wanted each field to be 30 bytes just for my visual ease
but each
Colleagues, I saying my professional goodbye. I retired at noon today
after 49 years and 10 months in the business. The career began sorting
cards and wiring panels. Progressing past all the card machines to
Autocoder, RPG, Cobol, VSE, VM, PL1, Quikjob, Easytrieve, Panvalet, SAS,
MVS
If editing 2 members in the same PDS, it's quite simple.
Edit session 1 : CC-CC the desired lines, key in:CREATE Z
Edit session 2 : On the command line MOVE Z after any target line.
If editing 2 members in different PDS datasets, 1 more step..
Edit session 1 : CC-CC the desired
Aw geez, where's Gilmore when we need him?
On 6/17/2015 3:48 PM, Ted MacNEIL wrote:
It's generally for generic usage.
It's okay when used colloquially, ie:
Pat enjoys a drink when he's alone.
OR:
Pat enjoys a drink when she's alone.
Exaggerated examples are akin to straw-person arguments.
Oh it definitely existed, this being my first programming language, and
sorely missed. As an intellectual exercise I once wrote a program to
convert/interpret incoming card data that was mistakenly loaded 12 edge
face down.
Somewhere I have a sort needle and card gauge hidden away.
On
I have a box of red-white-blue 1976 bicentennial 5081s in pristine
condition. I once had 5 more but they were lost in a basement flood.
On 6/16/2015 2:43 AM, glen herrmannsfeldt wrote:
In article
of4a881d2e.1388e6c9-on48257e66.00179ed9-48257e66.001c4...@sg.ibm.com you
wrote:
(snip)
As
Not wishing to be a Black Hat and not wanting to think like a White Hat,
let me don my Gray Hat. If I wanted to send a PDS member containing
source code I'd simply email it. If it were large I'd mail it in pieces.
In the movie Mash, Corporal Radar O'Reilly send a Jeep from Korea to his
home
. But based on my knowledge of DFSORT, that value of
the field could not use as the pointer in DFSORT control statement
parameter to select the last 8 bytes.
So I'm asking the way to do it by DFSORT.
Thank you.
Minoru Massaki - (M*M)
2015-06-08 1:59 GMT+09:00 Tony's Outlook via Mozilla tbabo
There was a DF/SORT related post sometime in the not so distant past
that gave an example of how to read a VB file and determine all the
differing record lengths. Without thinking about it much reading all
the RDW fields should not be that difficult.
On 6/7/2015 11:21 AM, Lizette Koehler
I may be missing something obvious here but if in my past life I worked
with many thousands of CICS only users none of whom had a CICS
segment. Now if they did use their PC to acquire a z/OS UNIX prompt,
then what? They would have access to any ID(*) or UACC=notNONE dataset
profiles. I
I loved the 3290, it was the best ever device to design a nicely
readable report when configured in Cinemascope. Wish I could emulate it
on my large monitor.
Always wishing to push a limit I once split my 3290 into 4 screens, each
having a blinking Omegamon screen running. I could hear the
All priors have been snipped away. ISTR another lengthy thread devoted
to IEFBR14 cluttering the archives. While our old, trusty, favorite
platform is being eaten alive by the toy computer tribe who are more
adept at hosting EMAIL and web sites, a talent we can't or won't
accomplish, we
I've visited my son (Hong Kong Airlines pilot) in Shenzhen several times
in the last few years. It's a huge and charming city, the knockoff
capital of the planet. You can tell which factory buildings manufacture
the more important commodities, those have the nets surrounding each
floor. My
Otherwise could be ISPF 1.3.5 or ISPF 3.4 edit session, S * G from MSL.
Perhaps you'd like to do the stats reset in batch?
On 5/1/2015 4:23 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote:
If you have not done so, you may wish to join the TSO-REXX and/or ISPF Lists
To do so, go to these URLs
ISPF
I've experienced several instances of antiquated convention that were
byproducts of batch job owner generation via a feature of Top Secret and
ACF2. As are many old inherited conventions they're troublesome to
remove, more for cultural than technical considerations.
On 4/28/2015 11:02 AM,
Think of the upside. I apply for a job at NSA and ask if they would
like to see my resume. They reply no thanks, we've already have it.
On 4/22/2015 12:09 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
Mike Schwab wrote:
Anything that goes over the internet you have to assume the NSA can read.
And if
:
(We need a new group, alt.ibm-main.nostalgia, or the like.)
and Tony's Outlook via Mozilla wrote:
We've got one, it's called IBM-MAIN, :-)
My oh my! ;-)
That famous list contains: OT, nostalgia, OT, trivia, OT, discussion about any
computers except mainframes, flaming bickering amongst
We've got one, it's called IBM-MAIN, :-)
On 3/29/2015 2:53 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 08:57:38 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 6:11 AM, Tom Marchant wrote:
Interesting article about the mainframe in Forbes:
On days when I feel evil I give $10.02 to pay for a lunch of $8.27.
he-he-he-he-he.
On 3/9/2015 2:51 PM, Alan Schwartz wrote:
Alas - Here in the USA they often DO allow kids to use calculators in
school. As a consequence we now have an entire generation that is
incapable of something as
If the reception desk is going to be in charge of setting the clocks
ahead tomorrow morning then I understand the somewhat distant connection
between the subject and the message.
.or I'm still hungover from last night.
On 3/7/2015 10:30 AM, Scheuer, Paul wrote:
Understood.
Apart from some occasional flames, IBM-MAIN is nothing but a large FAQ.
What am I missing here?
On 3/5/2015 12:47 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
We need an IBM-MAIN FAQ.
Charles
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Bill
Read the whole mess and write out a dataset as a series of records with
lrecl=2. Re-read the records and build into groups each beginning with
c'60611L011'. Then rebuild as desired. If it were my dog I'd use
DF/SORT. Sri Kolusu gave a sample to deal with a situation similar to
this quite
Paul, my original inspiration for suggesting the Swiss Army Knife came
from a project some years ago where I was tasked with cleaning up a DB2
table where support from the database team was not possible for
political reasons. Being hardly the expert (I never learned DB1!) I
posted the
P.S. I looked up Turing-complete. Now I have a headache.
On 2/26/2015 11:51 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 08:20:49 -0800, Sri h Kolusu wrote:
Tony suggested the use of Tab (X'05') as delimiter which will avoid the
problem of data already have the common delimiter comma.
I'd certainly prefer zOS/batch/DFSORT. Unload the table to FB disk, use
DF/SORT to insert x'05'(tab) or comma(CSV) where desired. I do this
quite often to create a flat file that will eventually go back to MS
excel/access. Millions of records? No big deal.
On 2/25/2015 4:47 PM, Rob
wrote on
02/20/2015 02:00:24 PM:
From: Tony's Outlook via Mozilla tbabo...@outlook.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date: 02/20/2015 02:10 PM
Subject: DF/SORT JOINKEYS question.
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I have a job stream that contains several relatively
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