OMVS hang at system shutdown

2016-05-06 Thread Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform)
Morning all, We have noticed an intermittent OMVS shutdown problem, possibly since going to z/OS 2.1, though I'm not willing to bet on that. The general scenario is that almost all of the system is down, and we're into stopping OMVS. Systems automation then issues a stop to OMVS: F OMVS,SHUT

Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown

2016-05-06 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Styles, Andy wrote: >*BPXI056E OMVS SHUTDOWN REQUEST HAS COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY > (why is that an 'E' level message?) Good catch! > ... Obviously the thing to do here is take a dump and open a PMR, but we > haven't yet seen the issue since we decided to do that. I just wondered > whether

Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown

2016-05-06 Thread Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform)
wn' and nothing more. Very frustrating. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: 06 May 2016 09:06 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown -- This email has rea

Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown

2016-05-06 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Styles, Andy wrote: >Any D OMVS command appears to simply result in OMVS saying 'I told you, I'm >shutting down' and nothing more. Very frustrating. Indeed. But to wait 20 min is way too long [0] if you have a fast and furious machine. Ask the automation to issue all those D OMVS,... [1] and

Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown

2016-05-06 Thread Tom Conley
On 5/6/2016 3:42 AM, Styles, Andy , SD EP zPlatform wrote: Morning all, We have noticed an intermittent OMVS shutdown problem, possibly since going to z/OS 2.1, though I'm not willing to bet on that. The general scenario is that almost all of the system is down, and we're into stopping OMVS.

Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown

2016-05-06 Thread Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform)
On Fri 06/05/2016 at 13:14, Tom Conley wrote: >> *BPXI056E OMVS SHUTDOWN REQUEST HAS COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY >> >> (why is that an 'E' level message?) >> > > "E" here is not "ERROR", it's "Eventual Action", which is the "F > OMVS,RESTART" command. Ah! Of course - I'd forgotten IBM use the same su

Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown

2016-05-06 Thread Staller, Allan
I have seen this occur: 1) waiting to transfer ownership of the file system to the "surviving' (LPAR(s)). You might check the automove status of your file systems. 2) health checker is usually very slow in shutting down 3) HIS You might try adding f omvs,stoppfs=zfs(? on the syntax) earlier in

Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown

2016-05-06 Thread Tom Conley
On 5/6/2016 8:47 AM, Styles, Andy , SD EP zPlatform wrote: On Fri 06/05/2016 at 13:14, Tom Conley wrote: *BPXI056E OMVS SHUTDOWN REQUEST HAS COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY (why is that an 'E' level message?) "E" here is not "ERROR", it's "Eventual Action", which is the "F OMVS,RESTART" command.

Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown

2016-05-06 Thread Jousma, David
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown On 5/6/2016 8:47 AM, Styles, Andy , SD EP zPlatform wrote: > On Fri 06/05/2016 at 13:14, Tom Conley wrote: > >>> *BPXI056E OMVS SHUTDOWN REQUEST HAS COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY >>> >>> (why is that an '

Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown

2016-05-06 Thread Tom Brennan
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown On 5/6/2016 8:47 AM, Styles, Andy , SD EP zPlatform wrote: On Fri 06/05/2016 at 13:14, Tom Conley wrote: *BPXI056E OMVS SHUTDOWN REQUEST HAS COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY (why is that an 'E' level message?) "E" here is no

Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown

2016-05-06 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
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Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown

2016-05-30 Thread Zahir Hemini
My automation product allows me to define products separately from each other so that you can completely change the state of one and then use that to influence the state of other products. For special cases like OMVS/JES2 it allows you to define a script that will completely resolve the state of

Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown

2016-05-30 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 12:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown My automation product allows me to define products separately from each other so that you can completely change the state of one and then use that to influence the state of other pro

Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown

2016-05-31 Thread Zahir Hemini
M To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown My automation product allows me to define products separately from each other so that you can completely change the state of one and then use that to influence the state of other products. For special cases like OMVS/

Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown

2016-05-31 Thread Edward Finnell
Just hilite a portion to give a hint as to what we're talking about. In a message dated 5/31/2016 5:28:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time, zhem...@gmail.com writes: Is there a better way to reply to a thread than to copy the entire message?

Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown

2016-05-31 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
ginal Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Finnell Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 8:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown Just hilite a portion to give a hint as to what we're talk

Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown

2016-05-31 Thread Tony Harminc
On 31 May 2016 at 13:13, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > I just noticed that OP is using Gmail. I have a Gmail account that I use > almost exclusively from my phone. I likewise assumed that Reply, which I > rarely use, included the sender's text, but preliminary testing shows that > not to be true. N

Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown

2016-05-31 Thread Zahir Hemini
I am interacting through the listserv web page. It shows a reply icon at the top right. When I click on that I get a blank message, so I have had to highlight the text, copy that then paste it into the response before I start. But I will get the hang of it. -- Just hi

Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown

2016-05-31 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Zahir Hemini wrote: >I am interacting through the listserv web page. It shows a reply icon at the >top right. When I click on that I get a blank message, so I have had to >highlight the text, copy that then paste it into the response before I start. Good, now you just click on the two green qu

Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown

2016-05-31 Thread Matthew Stitt
I also use the web interface. On the bottom right of the message, you should see a "quote" mark in green, next to the check box to send a copy of the message to your e-mail. I use that to insert the original message, as seen below. Matthew On Tue, 31 May 2016 13:18:42 -0500, Zahir Hemini wrot

Replying to IBM-MAIN email (Was OMVS hang at system shutdown)

2016-05-31 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
nt: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 10:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown On 31 May 2016 at 13:13, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > I just noticed that OP is using Gmail. I have a Gmail account that I use > almost exclusively from my phone. I likew