Lots of JES2 and JES3 work being done, a lot of it pointing to convergence
of the two products.
Interesting stuff.
Cheers,,
Creating JES2 was a half ASP job.
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From: Steve Conway
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Rejoice! z/OS 2.1 addresses some long term JCL complaints from
here:
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 08:39:10 -0500
Lots of JES2 and JES3
group,
HASP was the ancestor of JES2 and ASP
was the ancestor of JES3)
Perhaps Lynn has some historic background available.
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From: Steve Conway
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 06:59:41 -0700, Steve Comstock
wrote:
>On 2/5/2013 6:44 AM, Richard Pinion wrote:
>> Creating JES2 was a half ASP job.
>
>Actually, my understanding was that it went the
>other way: lots of HASP code was lifted into
>ASP. There was probably some borrowing in the
>other directi
On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 07:27:11 -0600, John McKown wrote:
> http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=ca&infotype=an&appname=iSource&supplier=877&letternum=ENUSZP13-0013
>
>In z/OS V2.1, a number of JCL improvements are planned:
>
>Support for passing parameter lists up to 32,760 bytes
32760 = max[n | (n <= 32767) & (n = 0 mod(8))]
On 2/5/13, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 07:27:11 -0600, John McKown wrote:
>
>> http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=ca&infotype=an&appname=iSource&supplier=877&letternum=ENUSZP13-0013
>>
>>In z/OS V2.1, a number of
On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 11:11:04 -0500, John Gilmore wrote:
>32760 = max[n | (n <= 32767) & (n = 0 mod(8))]
>
But why "n = 0 mod(8)"? The PARM length is specified in single
bytes in a halfword. As an experiment, I've passed a PARM of
32767 bytes to HLASM, which processed it correctly while
misbehavi
This is an old discussion. Why is storage allocated in doublewords on
doubleword boundaries? This is done because the most exigent
historical alignment requirements are met by doing so. (Very
specialized quadword-alignment requirements do now sometimes arise.)
Storing current length in a signed
Btwrong! Jack posted a link with the gory details a few years back
but can't find it. (Maybe it's a .pdf) It really was Half-ASP. Got cleaned
up to become Houston-ASP.
In a message dated 2/5/2013 8:00:13 A.M. Central Standard Time,
st...@trainersfriend.com writes:
Actually, my un
One of my first SHAREs the UNIJES project was kicking off. Think one of my
associates was on the team. I got trolled into SPF. Bob Shannon said due
to politics UNIJES eventually got scrubbed
The 'SUMMA CUM JES' badge was interesting. #441 1171 and 1172 at
_www.mxg.com_ (http://www.mxg.com
st...@trainersfriend.com (Steve Comstock) writes:
> Actually, my understanding was that it went the
> other way: lots of HASP code was lifted into
> ASP. There was probably some borrowing in the
> other direction, too, I would imagine.
>
> (For the relative newcomers in the group,
> HASP was the a
On 2/5/2013 12:44 PM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote:
st...@trainersfriend.com (Steve Comstock) writes:
Actually, my understanding was that it went the
other way: lots of HASP code was lifted into
ASP. There was probably some borrowing in the
other direction, too, I would imagine.
(For the relative
Yaaay! But why not 32767 or 65535? Actually32760 is plenty; just
curious. Try passing HLASM 32768 to witness some bizarre behavior.
But BPXBATCH is happy with 65535.
32760 was picked for several reasons: its the maximum blocksize and with an
8-byte header fits nicely in 32768.
W. Kevin Kelle
On 5 Feb 2013 07:58:30 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
In the discussion below, I note that once again the JES2 customers get
more new function than those using the higher priced JES3.
Clark Morris who still nurses a grudge because JES3 customers had to
buy BDT(Bulk Data Transfer) to g
In <51116fdb.4020...@trainersfriend.com>, on 02/05/2013
at 01:47 PM, Steve Comstock said:
>This seems to support my recollection that HASP came first, or at
>least at the same time; HASP is not Half-ASP as the almost clever
>saying goes. ASP is half-HASP, perhaps.
Yes, HASP had much better ca
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&g
If you are interested, there is some additional detail on the 2.1 JES2 JCL
changes in my SHARE pitch from this week:
http://share.confex.com/share/120/webprogram/Handout/Session13029/JES2%20Product%20Update%20and%20Latest%20Status.pdf
Tom Wasik
JES2 Development
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On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 00:36:54 -0600, Tom Wasik wrote:
>If you are interested, there is some additional detail on the 2.1 JES2 JCL
>changes in my SHARE pitch from this week:
>http://share.confex.com/share/120/webprogram/Handout/Session13029/JES2%20Product%20Update%20and%20Latest%20Status.pdf
>
Ment
So I've read the PDF but I'm still not clear on this:
Does the enhanced symbol support mean that you can use symbols in places
like this:
REPRO INFILE(GIMZPOOL) +
OUTDATASET(&HLQ..GLOBAL.CSI)
? That would sure make distributed SMP/E JCL easier for customers to modify.
/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker
From: zMan
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu,
Date: 02/08/2013 02:29 PM
Subject:Re: Rejoice! z/OS 2.1 addresses some long term JCL
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So I've read the PDF but I'm still
On Fri, 2013-02-08 at 09:29 -0500, zMan wrote:
> Does the enhanced symbol support mean that you can use symbols in places
> like this:
> REPRO INFILE(GIMZPOOL) +
> OUTDATASET(&HLQ..GLOBAL.CSI)
Tom's presentation notes that substitution is done at application *read*
tim
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:01 AM, David Andrews wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-02-08 at 09:29 -0500, zMan wrote:
> > Does the enhanced symbol support mean that you can use symbols in places
> > like this:
> > REPRO INFILE(GIMZPOOL) +
> > OUTDATASET(&HLQ..GLOBAL.CSI)
>
Sorry to
The SYMBOLS= keyword is on the DD DATA or DD * JCL. It controls what symbols
are substituted in the instream data sets ... so yes, in places like:
REPRO INFILE(GIMZPOOL) +
OUTDATASET(&HLQ..GLOBAL.CSI)
The way the substitution works is it looks to compress blanks to t
On Fri, 2013-02-08 at 11:03 -0500, zMan wrote:
> Sorry to seem dense -- is that a "no"?
I didn't answer your question (sorry), but you brought to mind an
interesting caveat. Read-time has 1001 uses, and probably a couple of
gotchas. Excuse my digression.
--
David Andrews
A. Duda & Sons, Inc.
d
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 10:15:25 -0600, Tom Wasik wrote:
>
>The way the substitution works is it looks to compress blanks to the right of
>the symbol. It will compress strings down to 1 characters trying to keep
>characters in the same column that they are in.
>
Programmers most familiar with ISPF e
>It there aren't enough blanks to compress out, will the line be extended,
possibly reallocating a buffer if necessary? (I'm assuming RECFM=VB
for the SYSIN.
If there are not enough blanks, then the length of the line is extended. If
the application or utility passes in a large enough buffer, t
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:52:14 -0600, Tom Wasik wrote:
>More detail will be presented at the next SHARE so come to Boston and learn a
>lot more.
Thanks Tom, nice info. Seems like lots of functionality coming we've all been
hanging out for - for years ... :-)
Shane ...
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