MVMRUG Meeting - Columbus OH - Oct. 27

2006-09-26 Thread Moore, Terry A.
(Cross posted to MVMRUG, IBMVM and Linux-390 lists) Details of the next Midwest VM Regional User Group meeting have been posted to our web site at http://www.mvmrug.org/nextmtg..html. This is our 20th anniversary meeting. Terry This message and

Re: Diag A8 R15 RC of 3

2006-09-26 Thread Chris Langford
What CC on the DIAG A8 ? Whats in the CSW (Channel Status Word at int) ? What's in the sense ? Ken Vance wrote: Hi, We are using DIAG A8, and we are getting a RC of 3. This does not appear to be documented. We can see a condition code of 3, but not the R15 RC of 3. Has anyone seen

RSCS LPD Spooled to RDR

2006-09-26 Thread Fran Hensler
I want to set up an RSCS LPD that receives print and spools it to my RDR. Is this possible? Could someone send me an example of the statement for the RSCSLPD CONFIG and the PRINTERS CONFIG files? Thanks /Fran Hensler at Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania USA for 43 years [EMAIL

Rumors of the next z/VM?

2006-09-26 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
Due to some precarious applications, a customer is anxious to know now what release/version of z/VM we're migrating them to in 2007. We'll migrate them before their VM5.1 is unsupported in 9/2007. Does anyone have any good rumors about whether a new release or version of z/VM beyond VM5.2 will

Re: Rumors of the next z/VM?

2006-09-26 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
Good luck with that as I cannot get IBM to say when RSU0602 might be available for z/VM 5.2.0! -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Romanowski, John (OFT) Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 1:47 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU

Re: Rumors of the next z/VM?

2006-09-26 Thread Dave Jones
You might want to take s look at Steve Wilkins' SHARE presentation: z/VM Platform Update (Session 9100) from the SHARE in Baltimore. DJ Romanowski, John (OFT) wrote: Due to some precarious applications, a customer is anxious to know now what release/version of z/VM we're migrating them to in

Re: Rumors of the next z/VM?

2006-09-26 Thread Schuh, Richard
I hear rumors that there is a significant bug in z/VM 5.2 that will be fixed in z/VM 5.3. It is another 2G line constraint having to do with page and segment tables having to be located in the underworld. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System

RSCS LPD Spooled to RDR

2006-09-26 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
I want to set up an RSCS LPD that receives print and spools it to my RDR. Is this possible? Could someone send me an example of the statement for the RSCSLPD CONFIG and the PRINTERS CONFIG files? Sure, you can have the print file spooled anywhere in an RSCS network, whether a user or another

Re: Rumors of the next z/VM?

2006-09-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 09/26/2006 at 10:54 MST, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hear rumors that there is a significant bug in z/VM 5.2 that will be fixed in z/VM 5.3. It is another 2G line constraint having to do with page and segment tables having to be located in the underworld. What

Re: MIPS vs. Virtual CPUs

2006-09-26 Thread Mark Pace, Mainline Information System
Do you have a real CPU to back up the 2nd virtual CPU? If not, then you are not gaining anything. The 2nd virtual CPU is being scheduled to work on the only real CPU just like every other task waiting on CPU. I believe that the overhead on VM of scheduling the 2nd CPU and the additional work

Re: MIPS vs. Virtual CPUs

2006-09-26 Thread Marty Zimelis
Hey Scully, There may be a lot of confusion, but there's only one correct answer: It depends. :-) Seriously, the SHARE value in the directory (or set by command) is a function of the virtual machine, not the virtual processor. A four way with a SHARE of Relative 100 gets a relative 25

Can't copy a spool pack?

2006-09-26 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
While the host is running I copied the host VM5.2's single SPOOL pack to the single spool pack of my guest VM5.2 system, wanting to give the guest a copy of the host's NSS's and other System Data Files (SDF). When I IPL-ed the guest it reported no spool files; it had no NSS's. I did the copy 3

Re: MIPS vs. Virtual CPUs

2006-09-26 Thread Scully, William P
Let me refine this question. - Two users. Similar workload. A real processor with multiple CPUs. The underlying CP has no resource constraints. CP SHARE the same for both users. The only difference is user A has one virtual processor and user B has two virtual processors. I'm not really

Re: Can't copy a spool pack?

2006-09-26 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
You need to copy the CHECKPOINT and/or the WARM START areas too. You will more than likely have to do a FORCE start on the new system. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Romanowski, John (OFT) Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006

Re: MIPS vs. Virtual CPUs

2006-09-26 Thread Marty Zimelis
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scully, William P Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:25 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: MIPS vs. Virtual CPUs Let me refine this question. - Two users. Similar workload.

Re: Can't copy a spool pack?

2006-09-26 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
Ahh, that's' what I'm forgetting. In the past I've copied the sysres and spool pack close in time and got the warmstart and checkpoint area too; not this time. Thanks. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stracka, James (GTI) Sent:

Re: Can't copy a spool pack?

2006-09-26 Thread David Kreuter
As stated you'll need the WARM cylinders. Each page of warm points at up 1,022 spool files. I think it is a BAD IDEA to attempt to copy spool from a running system. Maybe it'll work if the stars are aligned ... serialization ... no updates to warm ... virtual machine not purging or creating a

VM63952 / UM31784 - z/VM v5.2 New Function PTF

2006-09-26 Thread Dennis Schaffer
Has anyone installed VM63952 and its z/VM v5.2 PTF UM31784? Does it seem reliable? Has it caused any problems? What type of processor are you running? I'm installing z/VM v5.2 and considering whether to install UM31784 because I'm interested in the PAV support and because a z9 may be in the

Re: MIPS vs. Virtual CPUs

2006-09-26 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 9/26/06, Marty Zimelis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any benefit of adding vCPUs -- as opposed to just increasing SHARE value -- occurs only if your existing vCPU is max'ing out a real CPU. Unless you have a poorly designed application that can be fooled to let it think it has two CPU's and

Re: MIPS vs. Virtual CPUs

2006-09-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 09/26/2006 at 03:25 AST, Scully, William P [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me refine this question. - Two users. Similar workload. A real processor with multiple CPUs. The underlying CP has no resource constraints. CP SHARE the same for both users. The only difference is user A

Re: Diag A8 R15 RC of 3

2006-09-26 Thread Ray Mansell
Ken, Can you tell us the level of CP where this happens, and the associated condition code? I've just spent an hour or so poring over the 5.2 source code for diag A8, and I can't see any way return code 3 can happen. Ray Mansell Ken Vance wrote: Hi, We are using DIAG A8, and we

Re: Rumors of the next z/VM?

2006-09-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 09/26/2006 at 01:26 EST, Dennis Schaffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I attended that session and Steve's presentation didn't address anything beyond v5.2 and follow-on new function APARs. However, I did ask Steve at the end of the session, without requesting details, whether a new

Multiple HOSTS LOCAL files to match multiple TCPIP files?

2006-09-26 Thread Tom Cluster
I'm trying to configure my TCP/IP virtual machines so that when they're restored to our DR environment they will work correctly without any changes. I have multiple TCPIP files, one for each CPU, because the selection of the filename to be used is based on the nodeid from the SYSTEM NETID

Re: Can't copy a spool pack?

2006-09-26 Thread Jim Bohnsack
David--That's exactly what you cannot do with DCSSBKUP/.RSAV is copy NSS's. That's one of the two major short comings with those utilities with the other being, IMHO, the fact that the restored DCSS's do not retain the original spool file time/date stamp. I suspect, tho, that you really just

Diag A8 R15 RC of 3

2006-09-26 Thread Ken Vance
Hi, We are using DIAG A8, and we are getting a RC of 3. This does not appear to be documented. We can see a condition code of 3, but not the R15 RC of 3. Has anyone seen documentation for this RC? Table 17. DIAGNOSE Code X'A8' Return Codes in the Guest's Register 15 with CC=1

MIPS vs. Virtual CPUs

2006-09-26 Thread Scully, William P
All things being equal, does giving a user a second (or third) virtual CPU give them more MIPS, over time, than a user with a single virtual CPU? When I speak with experienced VMers there seems to be a distinct difference in opinion on this. Some think, yes, give me a second virtual CPU and I'll

Re: Multiple HOSTS LOCAL files to match multiple TCPIP files?

2006-09-26 Thread Marcy Cortes
Hey, Tom, hope all is well. We don't use one - if that helps. Everything points to DNS server that is defined in TCPIP DATA file. Marcy Cortes This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee,

Re: Multiple HOSTS LOCAL files to match multiple TCPIP files?

2006-09-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 09/26/2006 at 06:36 MST, Tom Cluster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do I really need to worry about the HOSTS LOCAL file? HOSTS LOCAL Company are deprecated and have been replaced by ETC HOSTS which - supports both IPv4 and IPv6 - doesn't require compiling with MAKESITE Name resolution