Re: Odd sizes for tn3270 sessions

2006-10-11 Thread Colin Allinson
I sometimes also use odd sizes (particularly 43x133) in the way that Kris describes but there are a few applications (Ditto, VM:Operator) that do not like this and refuse to play. Colin Allinson Amadeus Data Processing Kris Buelens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sometimes use odd screen-sizes from

Re: Odd sizes for tn3270 sessions

2006-10-11 Thread Gregg Reed
62x140; same with VM:Operator not liking it, VMYCON155E userid screen size exceeds 43-line/80-column maximum. but VM:Backup resizes it to 24x80... How's that done or could it be done from REXX? Gregg No plan survives execution

Re: Real core

2006-10-11 Thread Phil Smith III
Richard Troth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station-wagon. (or of airliner, or of an Amish buggy, or of the QE2, or of a Camry, ...) Yeah, we had a customer who wanted to move 100TB from Japan to New Jersey; my recommendation was Crate the Shark and fly it

DFSMS and SFS

2006-10-11 Thread Thompson, Ira CTR WHS/ITMD/KENROB
Hi, We are currently running z/VM 5.1 with the RMS (Removable Media Services) feature of DFSMS. We are using the default system SFS (Shared File System) that comes with the base system. (VMSERVR, S, U). I want to install DFSMS in my local SFS however Chapter 2 of the install instructions says that

Re: Odd sizes for tn3270 sessions

2006-10-11 Thread Don Russell
Gregg Reed wrote: 62x140; same with VM:Operator not liking it, VMYCON155E userid screen size exceeds 43-line/80-column maximum. but VM:Backup resizes it to 24x80... How's that done or could it be done from REXX? Gregg resizing to 24 by 80 is done by the application using the write vs write

Server Time Protocol support for zSeries

2006-10-11 Thread Dave Jones
IBM announced today support for the server Time Protocol (STP) in the zSeries hardware. Availability of Server Time Protocol can: * Help improve time synchronization for z9 EC, z9 BC, z990, and z890 * Support a multisite sysplex distance up to 100 km * Synchronize servers and

Trapping output of VTAM Commands from a GCS Routine

2006-10-11 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
Title: Trapping output of VTAM Commands from a GCS Routine I know that this can be done in a NETVIEW NCCFLST but I would like to do this as a VM/VTAM GCS routine. Can EXECIO or PIPE, or some other function, be run in a GCS routine in VMVTAM to trap the output of a command such as: d

Re: Real core

2006-10-11 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 05:35:50AM -0400,Phil Smith III Wrote: } Yeah, we had a customer who wanted to move 100TB from Japan to New Jersey; my recommendation was Crate the Shark and fly it there. I calculated that if it took 24 hours door-to-door, that was about 1GB/second throughput.

Re: Real core

2006-10-11 Thread Dave Jones
Yeah, and the connectivity to that data while in transit was pretty bad, too. ;-) DJ Phil Smith III wrote: Richard Troth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station-wagon. (or of airliner, or of an Amish buggy, or of the QE2, or of a Camry, ...) Yeah, we had a

Re: Real core

2006-10-11 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Other than PNET or RJE, I can't imagine anyone ever shipping a dump prior to the '90s. It is only since I had high speed Internet connections that I have ever shipped a dump online. It seems like only 4-5 years ago, I was still shipping tapes. If we were ever in a real hurry, where FEDEX was

Re: Odd sizes for tn3270 sessions

2006-10-11 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 07:27:26AM -0700,Don Russell Wrote: } Gregg Reed wrote: } 62x140; same with VM:Operator not liking it, VMYCON155E userid screen size } exceeds 43-line/80-column maximum. but VM:Backup resizes it to 24x80... } How's that done or could it be done from REXX? } Gregg }

Re: Trapping output of VTAM Commands from a GCS Routine

2006-10-11 Thread Jim Bohnsack
If you just want to be able to grab the output rather than if you really need it in GCS, I run an exec that does that. Normally I run with VTAM secusered to the OPERATOR id. My exec temporarily changes the secuser id to the issuer, issues the command and waits for the output. When the

Re: Real core

2006-10-11 Thread Bob Shair
At 10:28 AM 10/11/2006, you wrote: If we were ever in a real hurry, where FEDEX was too slow, we would take the tape to Lambert International Airport (St. Louis), and put it on the next flight out to where ever it needed to go. So I guess the question I'm wondering... How many others have

Re: Real core

2006-10-11 Thread Schuh, Richard
In the OS/360 days, shipping a tape was about the only option we had. It was (1) try to work with someone at the support center in an attempt to diagnose the problem and identify the fix via phone, and (2) when that failed, send the dump. This still held true in the early years of VM/370. We

XRC use and z/VM

2006-10-11 Thread Marcy Cortes
Any issues with VM 5.1 or 5.2 and XRC? My storage guy said to check on timestamping i/o? or something like that - and make sure we have all the PTF's on for that. I wasn't quite sure what to search on in IBMLink. Marcy Cortes This message may contain confidential and/or privileged

memory, 360 lcs, 3090 extended store, etc

2006-10-11 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
Schuh, Richard wrote: Yeah, but 3090 memory was not ferrite core, was it? IIRC, it was much cheaper and more reliable. I wasn't privy to the bean-counting specifics, but the rumored cost of the LCS storage on our 360 class machines was in the neighborhood or $2.5-3M per 2MB unit. And they were

Re: bandwidth of a swallow [was: Real core]

2006-10-11 Thread Stricklin, Raymond J
Cores DO migrate. --begin quote Now, it turns out that core memories are fairly fussy about their temperature. So in order to control the temperature, the early core memories were in an oil bath in a big tank, through which oil was circulated to maintain the temperature of the things. This

Re: VTAM Cross Domain problem/question

2006-10-11 Thread David Boyes
What are some good ways of making this type of change? Best way I can think of is a session manager like NVAS or Tubes, where you could make the LU pool connecting to the application specific to a particular app, and always ask for EDS from the real device.

Business case for restoring the PWD Flex license

2006-10-11 Thread David Boyes
As some of you might know, IBM and Fundamental Software have not been able to agree on renewing the PWD access to the zArchitecture-capable version of Flex-ES. While I understand that IBM has made this decision on what they believe to be a valid business case, several of my customers who

Re: Trapping output of VTAM Commands from a GCS Routine

2006-10-11 Thread Dave Wade
--- Stracka, James (GTI) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that this can be done in a NETVIEW NCCFLST but I would like to do this as a VM/VTAM GCS routine. Can EXECIO or PIPE, or some other function, be run in a GCS routine in VMVTAM to trap the output of a command such as: d

Re: Business case for restoring the PWD Flex license

2006-10-11 Thread Tony Harminc
David Boyes wrote: As some of you might know, IBM and Fundamental Software have not been able to agree on renewing the PWD access to the zArchitecture-capable version of Flex-ES. While I understand that IBM has made this decision on what they believe to be a valid business case, several of

Re: Business case for restoring the PWD Flex license

2006-10-11 Thread Dave Jones
That's a good suggestion, Tony. Here is a bit more of the details of the meeting: Please join IBM System z for the System z Fall 2006 Technical Disclosure Meeting (TDM) to be held Monday, November 13, 2006, through Thursday, November 16, 2006, in Poughkeepsie, NY. Attending the meeting is free,

Re: bandwidth of a swallow (was: Real core)

2006-10-11 Thread Paul B. Nieman
In the early 1990's we consolidated a data center from Sydney into Philadelphia. We used SYBACK to do a full dump of specific (most) minidisks to tape and shipped the tapes. We then performed daily incrementals to disk, and sent the incrementals via RSCS, via a 9600 baud line at most. I

Re: Business case for restoring the PWD Flex license

2006-10-11 Thread Tony Harminc
Dave Jones wrote: Please join IBM System z for the System z Fall 2006 Technical Disclosure Meeting (TDM) to be held Monday, November 13, 2006, through Thursday, November 16, 2006, in Poughkeepsie, NY. Attending the meeting is free, as in no-charge. However, you have to pay for your

Re: Trapping output of VTAM Commands from a GCS Routine

2006-10-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 10/11/2006 at 11:02 AST, Stracka, James (GTI) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that this can be done in a NETVIEW NCCFLST but I would like to do this as a VM/VTAM GCS routine. Can EXECIO or PIPE, or some other function, be run in a GCS routine in VMVTAM to trap the output

Re: Business case for restoring the PWD Flex license

2006-10-11 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello! As I am happen to be a member of PWD, I suspect that since I haven't been able to negotiate a proper connection to their activities regarding Flex, I suspect that's why what you've got there, did not arrive here. I am interested naturally, but, ah, I suspect the representatives from Flex

Re: bandwidth of a swallow (was: Real core)

2006-10-11 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Wouldn't it take a hour to send 3.5 MB at 9600 baud? On the surface it would seem that your site didn't modify much in any one day. But then, most of us may be supprised by how little is actually updated. Back in the '70s there was an PNET/RJE function called RTPSEND and RTPRECV in which you

Re: Odd sizes for tn3270 sessions

2006-10-11 Thread Don Russell
Rich Greenberg wrote: On: Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 07:27:26AM -0700,Don Russell Wrote: } Gregg Reed wrote: } 62x140; same with VM:Operator not liking it, VMYCON155E userid screen size } exceeds 43-line/80-column maximum. but VM:Backup resizes it to 24x80... } How's that done or could it be done

Re: Business case for restoring the PWD Flex license

2006-10-11 Thread Bill Dodge
From the Flex listserv Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 16:19:41 -0400 Reply-To: FLEX-ES S/390 Emulator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: FLEX-ES S/390 Emulator [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bob Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A Letter To The FLEX-ES Community In-Reply-To:

Use of VMSES/E SERVICE EXEC w/ CP Modifications

2006-10-11 Thread Dennis Schaffer
Hi, We have historically used the VMSES/E SERVICE EXEC to install RSU and COR service to the Starter System during our initial z/VM installations. Shortly after the Starter System has reached our desired level of maintenance, we implement CP usermods in support of CA's VM:Secure Rules facility.

Re: Real core

2006-10-11 Thread Adam Thornton
On Oct 11, 2006, at 8:28 AM, Tom Duerbusch wrote: How many others have shipped dumps, online, back before high speed Internet connections? Hell, I've done it with DVDs in the last year. Adam

Re: DFSMS and SFS

2006-10-11 Thread Kris Buelens
There is a bypass (I think). Store a UCOMDIR NAMES file on the A-disk of DFSMS servers. In this file, you aasign a nickname to a filepool: :nick.VMSYS :tpn.MYPOOL Note: to activate this, the easiest way it to IPL CMS Kris, IBM Belgium, VM customer support The IBM z/VM Operating System