Re: RSCS

2007-08-07 Thread Schuh, Richard
I certainly am. It is time to ask the big question, WHY ME, GOD? The files are anything from jobs being submitted to files being sent via SENDFILE. There are no error messages, neither before nor after, on either side of the link. As for recreation, all I have to do is to stop the link and then

Re: RSCS

2007-08-07 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
I certainly am. It is time to ask the big question, WHY ME, GOD? The files are anything from jobs being submitted to files being sent via SENDFILE. There are no error messages, neither before nor after, on either side of the link. As for recreation, all I have to do is to stop the link and then

Re: RSCS

2007-08-07 Thread Schuh, Richard
BTW, I have just opened an incident. We reproduce the problem by starting the link. I cannot start the trace before the link is up; hence, no trace. Since I cannot get a FLUSH to work without stopping the link, I no of no way to start the trace before a file is hung on the link. Regards,

Re: RSCS

2007-08-07 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
BTW, I have just opened an incident. We reproduce the problem by starting the link. I cannot start the trace before the link is up; hence, no trace. Since I cannot get a FLUSH to work without stopping the link, I no of no way to start the trace before a file is hung on the link. You can specify

Re: RSCS

2007-08-07 Thread Mike Walter
Could you: CP TRANSFER RSCS sfid other_ID RDR (preferably other_ID = the origin ID) Then start the link, RSCS REORDER, then start the trace and TRANSFER the reader file back to RSCS's RDR? Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily

Re: RSCS

2007-08-07 Thread Schuh, Richard
No, it appears to fail on any file. We have gone through at least a dozen different files. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 10:15 AM To:

Re: DFSMS/VM

2007-08-07 Thread Mark Pace
There are being forced R/O because Maint already has them linked R/W. Logoff maint and try again. On 8/7/07, KEETON Dave * OR SDC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HCPLNM103E DASD 019D forced R/O; R/W by MAINT, R/O by18 users -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems

Re: DFSMS/VM

2007-08-07 Thread KEETON Dave * OR SDC
True enough. Thank you. How come the other disks are coming up R/O? They are assigned to DFSMS, so shouldn't they be attached R/W? From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 10:38 AM

Re: DFSMS/VM

2007-08-07 Thread Peter . Webb
Hi Dave, Is it possible that 01A6, 01A4, 01A2 and 01B5 are links to other minidisks owned by DFSMS? Peter -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KEETON Dave * OR SDC Sent: August 7, 2007 13:27 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU

Re: DFSMS/VM

2007-08-07 Thread Wakser, David
DFSMS needs to be logged off in order for you to have WRITE access to those minidisks. Multiple WRITE accesses are VERY dangerous in CMS! :) David Wakser From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday,

Re: DFSMS/VM

2007-08-07 Thread Mark Pace
On 8/7/07, KEETON Dave * OR SDC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How come the other disks are coming up R/O? They are assigned to DFSMS, so shouldn't they be attached R/W? I don't quite understand HCPLNM102E DASD 01A6 forced R/O; R/W by DFSMS If you are logging on to DFSMS. What does the directory

Re: DFSMS/VM

2007-08-07 Thread Imler, Steven J
Dave, Issue CP QUERY VIRTUAL DASD on the DFSMS machine to see what MiniDisks the machine is currently linked to. As someone indicated, it seems you have the same MiniDisk already linked at another virtual address, and that link is already a R/W link. JR (Steven) Imler CA Senior

Re: DFSMS/VM

2007-08-07 Thread KEETON Dave * OR SDC
Q DASD shows: DASD 01A6 3390 DFSMD0 R/O 2 CYL ON DASD 982B SUBCHANNEL = 000D But the directory entry is: MDISK 1A6 3390 0117 0002 DFSMD0 MR That's what I don't understand. Seems to me that the MR mode should attach it as read-write.

Re: DFSMS/VM

2007-08-07 Thread Peter . Webb
Hi Dave, Could you post the complete directory entry for DFSMS, please. Peter -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KEETON Dave * OR SDC Sent: August 7, 2007 14:23 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DFSMS/VM Q

Re: DFSMS/VM

2007-08-07 Thread Judson West
When CP links a minidisk to a user, either via a LINK statement or command or a MDISK statement, it is given 2 alternative link methods on the command. In your case, you have asked for a MR link. CP will attempt to make a M link first which on its own says gimme a R/W link regardless if anyone has

Re: DFSMS/VM

2007-08-07 Thread Kris Buelens
To know who/what prohibits a R/W link, link in RR and then issue Q LINKS. Like this: CP LINK DFSMS 1A6 111 RR CP Q LINKS 111 -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support 2007/8/7, Judson West [EMAIL PROTECTED]: When CP links a minidisk to a user, either via a LINK statement or

Re: DFSMS/VM

2007-08-07 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 11:23:14AM -0700,KEETON Dave * OR SDC Wrote: } Q DASD shows: } } DASD 01A6 3390 DFSMD0 R/O 2 CYL ON DASD 982B SUBCHANNEL = 000D } } But the directory entry is: } } MDISK 1A6 3390 0117 0002 DFSMD0 MR } } That's what I don't understand. Seems to me that the MR

Re: DFSMS/VM

2007-08-07 Thread KEETON Dave * OR SDC
Thanks for all the help, folks. I seem to have missed a critical step and made a couple of errors in the directory entry. I had overlaps in the MDISK statements that appeared when I ran DISKMAP. I've corrected those and now the errors about R/O links are gone. Thanks for the tutorial, Rich. I'm

Re: DFSMS/VM

2007-08-07 Thread KEETON Dave * OR SDC
Following up on one of my earlier questions, does anyone know what this is supposed to mean (from the PLANINFO file generated by VMFINS): TARGID: VMSYS:DFSMS.CONTROL SIZE: 300 BLKSIZE:4K All of the other information from the PLANINFO file made sense to me, but this one has me

Re: DFSMS/VM

2007-08-07 Thread Mike Walter
That's an indication of the space required for DFSMS's CONTROL file if you install in into SFS (the other choice is minidisks, which you appear to be using from prior posts). In short, that says that the DFSMS CONTROL file would need 300 4k disk blocks of SFS space, and would be placed in the

Re: DFSMS/VM

2007-08-07 Thread Stephen . Gentry
It means that a file area in the SFS (shared file system) needs 300 4k blocks defined. (SFS defaults to 4k blocksize) It should be defined in the VMSYS SFS, directory DFSMS, subdirectory CONTROL. You have to do this. DFSMS expects this file area to be defined. It is used for storing some

Re: DFSMS/VM

2007-08-07 Thread KEETON Dave * OR SDC
The most frustrating part of all of this is determining exactly what I need to get access to the 3495. Stephen Gentry said that SFS is a requirement, so okay; I'll go down that road next. In previous posts I've asked folks about using DDR and some have offered to send me REXX scripts that can

Re: DFSMS/VM

2007-08-07 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
You don't need DirMaint or ISPF for the RMS component of DFSMS. You do need to put the control files in SFS, unless you're willing to modify the code to use a minidisk. Some of the code is in REXX, but some isn't, so I don't know if it's even possible to change it to use a minidisk.

Re: DFSMS/VM

2007-08-07 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
You don't need DirMaint or ISPF for the RMS component of DFSMS. You do need to put the control files in SFS, unless you're willing to modify the code to use a minidisk. Some of the code is in REXX, but some isn't, so I don't know if it's even possible to change it to use a minidisk. RMS

Re: DFSMS/VM

2007-08-07 Thread Marcy Cortes
soapbox=on It's time to remove that requirement IBM. Let it be on a minidisk by default (or if too hard, make minidisk the only option). I've answered a whole lot of questions in the past 18 months from my new to VM'ers here. It's not obvious to them for sure. You have 3 service machines each

Re: DFSMS/VM

2007-08-07 Thread Marcy Cortes
Hello Dave, welcome to VM! Overlaps... You mentioned in a previous email. That's what DIRMAINT will solve for you (an if there's more than 1 of you at your shop doing directory thingies... Dirmaint will solve that sharing problem). SOX/Audit? Eventually, those will probably get you too

Re: DFSMS/VM

2007-08-07 Thread Imler, Steven J
I won't get on a soapbox ... but I do agree with Marcy! Even the old VMers end up frustrated about the fact to run a 3494 on VM *REQUIRES* SFS (not that I think SFS is a bad thing ... my life depends on it every day!). However, it is particularly tough for these new (z/Linux) installations to

Re: DFSMS/VM

2007-08-07 Thread Marcy Cortes
JR wrote: I won't get on a soapbox ... but I do agree with Marcy! I'll mover over and make space. Or we can get together and make a bigger one. I'm sure there's a couple of others that I know that want to hop on too. Hmmm Maybe I'll write SHARE requirement next week. Marcy Cortes This