Restart of TCPIP function servers when TCPIP is recycled

2008-08-25 Thread Colin Allinson
Over the weekend a LAN problem resulted in TCPIP getting hung up on 3 of our systems and a recycle of TCPIP was necessary to resolve the issue. On 2 of the systems we had no issue but, on a 3rd, we had a subsequent issue with NAMESRV needing a separate manual recycle of that server. When I

Re: Restart of TCPIP function servers when TCPIP is recycled

2008-08-25 Thread Imler, Steven J
I thought it/TCPIP did do a FORCE when it finds a server already logged on when it tries to StartANewLife? JR (Steven) Imler CA Senior Sustaining Engineer Tel: +1 703 708 3479 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL

Installing z/VM 5.3

2008-08-25 Thread Xavier Corray
Hi Folks - Having laid off VM for 18 years, I would put myself back into the ranks of a newbie. So, please bear with me. Am trying to load z/VM 5.3 - loading from DVD pointing to g:/530vm.ins. After a status=SUCCESS is achieved, the Integrated 3270 Console remains blank with a green cursor

Re: Restart of TCPIP function servers when TCPIP is recycled

2008-08-25 Thread Schuh, Richard
Is TCPIP properly authorized to force its friends? That is a class A command. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Imler, Steven J Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 5:15 AM

Re: Where Do I Go From Here?

2008-08-25 Thread Edward M. Martin
Should it really be Noli nothis permittere te terere Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 ext 40441 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 2:24 PM To:

Re: Restart of TCPIP function servers when TCPIP is recycled

2008-08-25 Thread Kris Buelens
If TCPIP were not authorized, he wouldn't have gotten: HCPLGA054E Already logged on disconnected. Maybe the server was being watched (and restarted) by some other service machine. I.e. TCPIP forces it, the other watcher restarts it before TCPIP does. Check the system console. 2008/8/25 Schuh,

Re: Restart of TCPIP function servers when TCPIP is recycled

2008-08-25 Thread Schuh, Richard
That has nothing to do with FORCE, it is a response to the XAUTOLOG command. XAUTOLOG can be class A, B, or G, or it can be controlled by the ESM. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens

Re: Where Do I Go From Here?

2008-08-25 Thread Phil Tully
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegitimi_non_carborundum* Edward M. Martin wrote: Should it really be /Noli nothis permittere te terere/ Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 ext 40441 *From:* The IBM

Re: Where Do I Go From Here?

2008-08-25 Thread Schuh, Richard
Depends on whether you are trying to be correct and not understood, or just understood, by the masses who do not speak Latin. Who among those of us who do not speak Latin would ever be able to decipher, Noli nothis permittere te terere? Wasn't Illegitimi non Carborundum originally intended

Re: Where Do I Go From Here?

2008-08-25 Thread David Boyes
Who among those of us who do not speak Latin Bloody barbarians. They don't speak Greek either! 8-) So before you go on about the bloody Romans, don't you forget... you're one of 'em! -- Not the Messiah, He's a Very Naughty Boy!

IUCV - What's wrong with this picture?

2008-08-25 Thread Gary M. Dennis
Assumptions: 0. A VM server machine 1. A cluster of client virtual machines (possibly thousands) 2. n buffers are allocated for each client virtual machine 3. Each buffer contains table elements that require (a) Element ageing (b) Element deletion when invalidated by: 1. lack

Re: Where Do I Go From Here?

2008-08-25 Thread Dave Wade
It still is... (meant to be humorous) Dave Wade G4UGM Illegitimi Non Carborundum -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: 25 August 2008 17:20 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Where Do I Go From

Re: Where Do I Go From Here?

2008-08-25 Thread Schuh, Richard
In fact it is not even real Latin, it is pseudo Latin. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Wade Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:49 AM To:

Re: Where Do I Go From Here?

2008-08-25 Thread Paul Raulerson
High school latin 3 decades agao notwithsatanding, what the heck does that mean? None of those words translate or even transliterate inside my head.? Most like a failure inside my head... :)? -Paul ? -Original Message- From: Schuh, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August

Re: Where Do I Go From Here?

2008-08-25 Thread Thomas Kern
Illegitimi non Carborundum Loosely translated: Don't let the b*st*rds grind you down On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:12:16 +, Paul Raulerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: High school latin 3 decades agao notwithsatanding, what the heck does th at mean? None of those words translate or even

Re: Where Do I Go From Here?

2008-08-25 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Shuddering as I reply to this thread, but this is starting to closely resemble an IBM-MAIN list thread, not a good thing! Wayne Driscoll Product Developer NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: Where Do I Go From Here?

2008-08-25 Thread LOREN CHARNLEY
Paul, Thanks for asking the question that most of would like to know the answer to Loren Charnley, Jr. IT Systems Engineer FAMILY DOLLAR (704) 847-6961 Ext. 3327 (704) 814-3327 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The IBM z/VM Operating System

Re: Where Do I Go From Here?

2008-08-25 Thread Marty Zimelis
Was I the only one who followed the link in Phil Tully's message of about three hours ago? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegitimi_non_carborundum Marty Martin Zimelis Principal maz/Consultancy _ From: The IBM z/VM Operating System

A brief comment from our moderator, Re: [IBMVM] Where Do I Go From Here?

2008-08-25 Thread IBMVM Moderator
Dearest friends and colleagues, By my (very likely imprecise) count, the last ten posts in this thread have added little by way of technical content to the original topic. I offer this comment as a gentle reminder that most - perhaps all - of the 881 current subscribers to our little

z9 BC HMC Find Bar

2008-08-25 Thread Peter . Webb
A little while ago, an orange 'find bar' started appearing just below every window on our HMC. We tried clicking on the 'X' on the left to make it go away, and this works, once, on the first window we try it on. But the find bar keeps coming back, and we can't get it to go away. It is a major

Re: Restart of TCPIP function servers when TCPIP is recycled

2008-08-25 Thread Schuh, Richard
The answer is z/VM 5.4 :-) Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Ackerman Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 5:05 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Restart of TCPIP function servers when

Re: IUCV - What's wrong with this picture?

2008-08-25 Thread Barton Robinson
Sounds like there is a need for decent performance monitoring. dave wrote: Hi, Gary. Well, there is no such thing as a free lunch, so establishing *large* numbers of IUCV connections between virtual machines does cost something. Control blocks must be allocated, must be managed by CP,

Re: IUCV - What's wrong with this picture?

2008-08-25 Thread dave
That advice goes without saying...any effort to develop a sophisticated VM application demands a good monitor to help the developers tune that application to meet performance goals. DJ - Original Message - From: Barton Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: IUCV - What's wrong with this picture?

2008-08-25 Thread Jim Bohnsack
The 5000 clients hopefully do not all do a TIME IS 00:00:00 message or some kind of coordinated event with a signal coming from a common external source (CP), do they? Something like that could overrun a lot of buffers. Jim dave wrote: Hi, Gary. Well, there is no such thing as a free

Re: IUCV - What's wrong with this picture?

2008-08-25 Thread John P. Baker
Since you indicate low traffic volume, maintaining a permanent connection between the server and each client seems to me to be excessive. Alternatively, I would propose a somewhat different approach. The server should have configuration parameters specifying the maximum number of concurrent

Re: Where Do I Go From Here?

2008-08-25 Thread Alan Ackerman
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:49:49 -0500, Karl Severson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ON.COM wrote: Of my options, which would be the most efficient? The latest zVM with a VM/ESA guest? The latest zOS with a VM/ESA guest? Some other combination ? Karl Severson IBM VM System Administrator Raytheon Company El

Re: IUCV - What's wrong with this picture?

2008-08-25 Thread Alan Ackerman
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:23:49 -0500, Gary M. Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Assumptions: 0. A VM server machine 1. A cluster of client virtual machines (possibly thousands) 2. n buffers are allocated for each client virtual machine 3. Each buffer contains table elements that require

Re: IUCV - What's wrong with this picture?

2008-08-25 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 08/25/2008 at 10:11 EDT, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, there is no such thing as a free lunch, so establishing *large* numbers of IUCV connections between virtual machines does cost something. Control blocks must be allocated, must be managed by CP, interrupts fielded, etc.