Hi, list.
We are currently considering to migrate from z/VM 4.4 to z/VM 5.4 but we
have an issue:
We still have critical applications that use VSE/VSAM 6.1 and the questions
are:
- Does VSAM still exist in z/VM 5.4 ?
- Is it perhaps included in the z/VM 5.4 code (e.g. as TCPIP) ?
- If not, is
You can reinstall the old VSAM tape if you still have ity and can read it.
Or, the way I'd work:
- use DCSSBKUP to store CMSVSAM and CMSAMS saved segments in a CMS file
- use Q NSS CMS MAP to have the stage defintions
- on 5.4 issue DEFSEG CMS to create the skeletons usin,g the
Raul:
VSAM support under VM was removed a couple of years ago, and the
product can no longer be ordered. However, I have it from a couple of sources
that it seems to work fine under z/VM 5.4, so you should be able to use the
VSE/SAM 6.1 tape.
David Wakser
-Original Message-
David and Kris,
Thank you very much for your great help. I will consider every alternative
you suggested.
Once again, thank you very very much.
BRGDS,
Raul Barón
Dpto. Sistemas
CALCULO S.A.
With all due respect to Kris, I generally prefer to use SPXTAPE to dump
and load the DCSS's. DCSSBKUP does not preserve the original date of
the DCSS, which I think is very valuable. SPXTAPE DUMP and LOAD does.
Just my preference.
Jim
Kris Buelens wrote:
You can reinstall the old VSAM
On 5/20/09 4:29 AM, jose raul baron jba...@calculo-sa.es wrote:
- Does VSAM still exist in z/VM 5.4 ?
You can still use it if you have it, but no new licenses are available and
the product has been pulled from marketing. It still works, and you use the
same installation instructions as you did
sorry guys i read, but almost never post. someone pointed out that
i should still be using PROFs (OV for the newcomers... ), and i have to
agree. forgive me for praising the thoughtfulness of one of my folks in
front of everyone.
dang
just glad it wasn't one of my
On 5/20/09 11:56 AM, David L. Craig d...@radix.net wrote:
I must be missing something here. Shops that had it before
IBM decided to drop support (because there weren't any problems
to resolve) will continue to get it as they upgrade VM, but
new shops cannot get it for love nor money?
As
CMS VSAM is no longer marketed or unsupported. Those that are using it are
doing so at their on risk. Initially it was setup to access VSE VSAM. Some
day this will not work because VSE vsam will change. Having said that
I needed to rebuild my segment since backing up/loading using SPXTAPE
On Wed, 20 May 2009 14:17:05 -0400, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net w
rote:
... snipped ...
Please, someone,
explain the rationale behind this. What are new shops supposed
to use instead and are existing shops expected to migrate to
that at some point?
There is no replacement, other than
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If there is no real need to create VSAM files in CMS, but merely to
access VSAM files from CMS, I once had a Rexx add-on that allowed VSAM
access to VSE packs linked to the user. It worked fine for my purposes,
at the time. However, at this point, I don't know if I could even find
it. It's been at
I just installed VSAM on z/VM 5.4 the other day. Works fine. I copied the
minidisks from my old system and rebuilt the saved segments.
Peter
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf
Of jose raul baron
Sent: May 20, 2009 04:29
To:
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:00:30AM -0400, David Boyes wrote:
On 5/20/09 4:29 AM, jose raul baron jba...@calculo-sa.es wrote:
- Does VSAM still exist in z/VM 5.4 ?
You can still use it if you have it, but no new licenses are available and
the product has been pulled from marketing. It
nice job kiddo keep it up. :-)
len
When mainframes just started getting into IP communications, one of the things
we were warned about is to filter out any unnecessary IP traffic that is not
for the same subnet that the mainframe was on. The reason that I remember, is
that the IP stack looked at every packet to see if that
There have been changes to VSE VSAM that makes sharing files 'iffy' at
best. If someone is just using VSAM under VM for VM files, there should
be no problem continuing to use it. If someone is using it to access VSE
VSAM files, then they need to seriously look at other options. Some of
the new
On 5/20/09 3:54 PM, Tom Duerbusch duerbus...@stlouiscity.com wrote:
When mainframes just started getting into IP communications, one of the things
we were warned about is to filter out any unnecessary IP traffic that is not
for the same subnet that the mainframe was on. The reason that I
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I just was asked by one of our h/w guys if I knew how he should define a SCSI
tape device in the IOCP. Of course the answer was that there were no SCSI
devices supported on VM the last time I had anything to do with IOCPs (some 20
years ago). If someone would either post a sample or e-mail one
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Greetings fellow
VM supports SCSI disk now, but not SCSI tape.
SCSI is SAN (FCP). The cards are FICON cards with FCP personality.
In FCP mode, they act more like OSA cards. You can attach one or more
(usually more) FCP subchannels to a guest. Maybe the guest will know
what to do with them! But CP can use
I will be out of the office starting 05/20/2009 and will not return until
06/01/2009.
I will respond to your message when I return. I may be able to respond
prior to June 1as I will be checking emails when I am able.Please see
Trina LaRue for issues surrounding DB2 PMRs, or my manager,
You gen it just like DASD.
Keep in mind you are not genning the drives themselves but subchannel in which
things on the SAN can talk to your Linux server.
So, a subchannel can and usually does have more than 1 thing out there.
64 IODEVICE per CHPID max is recommended in something I read :)
See
Bleah, I meant not like DASD, but like FCP attached SAN DISK.
Time to go home now.
Marcy
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I will be out of the office starting 05/20/2009 and will not return until
06/01/2009.
I will respond to your message when I return. I may be able to respond
prior to June 1 as I will be checking emails when I am able.
I don't remember a VM/370 1401 emulator. I supported IBM customers that
were running 1401 support under DOS/360, but now I can't remember what
it was called. It required, I think, a hardware feature on the
S/360-30. I think I remember that there was a 1410 emulator that ran
under DOS,
On 5/20/09 9:46 PM, Jim Bohnsack jab...@cornell.edu wrote:
[snip] Was there a separate VM/370 1401
emulator or were you just running DOS or DOS/VS under VM/370?
Honestly, I don't remember much about it other than they kept paying for the
darn thing month after month and that the programs were
On Wednesday, 05/20/2009 at 10:01 EDT, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net
wrote:
On 5/20/09 4:29 AM, jose raul baron jba...@calculo-sa.es wrote:
- Does VSAM still exist in z/VM 5.4 ?
- Is it perhaps included in the z/VM 5.4 code (e.g. as TCPIP) ?
No, it's under the same terms (and
On Wednesday, 05/20/2009 at 03:55 EDT, Tom Duerbusch
duerbus...@stlouiscity.com wrote:
When mainframes just started getting into IP communications, one of the
things
we were warned about is to filter out any unnecessary IP traffic that is
not
for the same subnet that the mainframe was on.
On Wednesday, 05/20/2009 at 11:57 EDT, David L. Craig d...@radix.net
wrote:
I must be missing something here. Shops that had it before
IBM decided to drop support (because there weren't any problems
to resolve) will continue to get it as they upgrade VM, but
new shops cannot get it for love
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