Re: Testing Linux Z/vm

2009-06-24 Thread Marcy Cortes
Don't worry about maint and tcpip. They run CMS and CMS isn't going to mess with stuff he doesn't need, unlike Linux. CMS understands not to waste your whole VM size with file buffers and cache. Your guest is bigger than your real storage. If you need to do that overcommitting (and you may

Re: PROBLEMA WITH INSTALLATION OF ISFP/PDF

2009-06-24 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 06/24/2009 at 12:59 EDT, Marcy Cortes wrote: > All these Tivoli products ship with WAS and/or DB2 bundled inside of them. > How come RACF and zSecure can't ship ISPF bundled within. Seems like the > product would more useful that way :) You're right, it would be more useful (c

Testing Linux Z/vm

2009-06-24 Thread August Carideo
We are preparing for a test and loading the database is taking forever. Paging is high. I/O devices are less than 5% busy. CPU is never more than 20%. An Oracle file import is taking over 14 hours. Any Idea's with this little bit of info to go on Also is there a reason for the TCPIP machine to be

Re: Testing Linux Z/vm

2009-06-24 Thread David Boyes
> We are preparing for a test and loading the database is taking forever. > Paging is high. I/O devices are less than 5% busy. CPU is never more > than > 20%. An Oracle file import is taking over 14 hours. Any Idea's with > this > little bit of info to go on If you can give the LPAR a little bit o

Re: Testing Linux Z/vm

2009-06-24 Thread Rich Smrcina
August Carideo wrote: We are preparing for a test and loading the database is taking forever. Paging is high. I/O devices are less than 5% busy. CPU is never more than 20%. An Oracle file import is taking over 14 hours. Any Idea's with this little bit of info to go on Also is there a reason for

Re: Selecting multi-line console messages from a log file

2009-06-24 Thread Fred Schmidt
Neale Ferguson on Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:32:14 -0700 wrote * Are you really after all the security violations? If so, an * accounting record is cut for every violation. The log messages * (by default) will only print after 3 or more attempts. * Similarly, if you are after al

Re: Selecting multi-line console messages from a log file

2009-06-24 Thread Neale Ferguson
Are you really after all the security violations? If so, an accounting record is cut for every violation. The log messages (by default) will only print after 3 or more attempts. Similarly, if you are after all logon/logoff/disconnect/reconnect records an accounting record is cut for these also. On

Re: Selecting multi-line console messages from a log file

2009-06-24 Thread Fred Schmidt
> Neale Ferguson said... > > Tell us what your trying to filter and I bet you¹ll get several > versions of an action routine from the list watchers that you can > plug into PROP and it will create/append to a log on the fly. OK, here goes (userid's and IP addresses changed to protect the innoce

Isolating software (Was TN3270 logon screen)

2009-06-24 Thread Fran Hensler
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:37:22 -0400 Alan Altmark said: >One of the things we do in IBM that I do like is that a lot of >product-related commands (e.g. cc, ditto) are simply execs (some compiled >to MODULEs) that VMLINK to the appropriate disk to run the "real" version >of the program. I've been doi

Re: Why my Dirmaint is unstable?

2009-06-24 Thread sunny . hu
Thanks Alan,Ray and Jon. I find my mistake. The configrc sampdvh is in 2c2 not of 41f. Change the right one on dirmaint. Issue dirm add userid,RACF creates the profile ! :) By the way, the dirm enable helps too! Sunny This message is intended only for the addressee. It may contain privi

Re: Maintenance "Hot Standby"

2009-06-24 Thread Peter . Webb
My preference is to apply maintenance to a second level system, and test it there before applying the maintenance to production. An easy way to do it your way would be DDR copy your system residence volumes to spare disks with different labels from production. Record the volume addresses!!! Have

Re: Maintenance "Hot Standby"

2009-06-24 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Where you can do duplicate volumes, which was really necessary in the old days, before RAID, and head crashes... But with maintenance, you already have it. i.e. 190 is where CMS is. 490 is you apply maintenance. Swap the disks to put in or swap out, maintenance. (you will still need to resave t

Re: Maintenance "Hot Standby"

2009-06-24 Thread Kris Buelens
I found it more easy to keep a backup copy of the runtime "object": - CP: CPLOAD MODULE and CPOLD MODULE on MAINT CF1 alternatively, use MAINT CF2 as fallback of CF1 - CMS: MAINT 190 and 490; 193 and 493 - TCPIP: TCPMAINT 59x and 159x - etc If you have a copy of the entire resident, when you swit

Re: Which vm software to use?

2009-06-24 Thread RPN01
So many people come to us with a ³solution², instead of presenting us with their ³problem². They have some big picture, and want some small piece of it implemented for them. They have a restricted view of what is available, what the impact of what they¹re asking for is, and what other techniques co

Re: Maintenance "Hot Standby"

2009-06-24 Thread Schuh, Richard
I do not use the distribution disk as my sysres. Putting the new CP in place merely requires that the CPLOAD MODULE be made available on the PARM disk. Whenever I put a new module on the disk, I rename the existing file first. That way, the fallback module is right there and can be used simply b

Re: TN3270 logon screen

2009-06-24 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 06/24/2009 at 11:10 EDT, "Schuh, Richard" wrote: > That sounds like the right place to me, so long as the more commonly used > utilities, the ones on the S disk, remain generally available. In fact, I was > under the misapprehension that the 193 disk was there for precisely this

Re: Which vm software to use?

2009-06-24 Thread Huegel, Thomas
As I am rereading the original question my understanding is that the prof is asking for raw, or almost raw accounting data. IND USER every 4 hours is going to have very little if any useful information. The 01 accounting records will be much more useful. You will still need a service exec (perhaps

Maintenance "Hot Standby"

2009-06-24 Thread Le Grande Valerie
I am looking for some input: How do you do maintenance and keep a "hot standby" volume (and old 540RES and newly maintained 540RES)? We have to bring maintenance in "off hours" and like to have a volume operators can switch back to should there be problems. If anyone can share how-to, please c

Re: Which vm software to use?

2009-06-24 Thread Scott Rohling
My question is what the professor is hoping to determine.. because what he wants doesn't sound very useful at all. If he's trying to determine how busy they are -- he'd be better off using z/VM accounting records rather than the INDICATE data samples.. Scott On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Ma

Re: Which vm software to use?

2009-06-24 Thread Thomas Kern
I like running such data through a TIMESTAMP stage and pretty it up with SPECS. PIPE < STUDENT NAMES A | SPECS /INDICATE USER/ 1 w1 nw | CP | TIMESTAMP 1 6 | SPECS 1.8 1 9.2 nw ':' n 11.2 n ':' n 13.2 n 17-* nw | >> SNOOPING DATA A ' /Tom Kern On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:50:40 +0200, Colin Allinso

Re: Selecting multi-line console messages from a log file

2009-06-24 Thread Neale Ferguson
Tell us what your trying to filter and I bet you¹ll get several versions of an action routine from the list watchers that you can plug into PROP and it will create/append to a log on the fly. On 6/24/09 12:01 AM, "Fred Schmidt" wrote: > Neale Ferguson said... > > Would it be easier to create a

Re: PROBLEMA WITH INSTALLATION OF ISFP/PDF

2009-06-24 Thread David Boyes
> All these Tivoli products ship with WAS and/or DB2 bundled inside of > them. > How come RACF and zSecure can't ship ISPF bundled within. Seems like > the product would more useful that way :) Amen! It *can't* cost more to support it bundled. And PVM so that we can do CSE properly while you wr

Re: Which vm software to use?

2009-06-24 Thread Colin Allinson
I would be very simplistic about this. Just have a file with a list of student names and run a pipe in a timed wakeup loop. The Pipe would look something like :- 'PIPE < STUDENT NAMES A | SPECS /IND USER/ 1 w1 nw | CP | >> SNOOPING DATA A' Colin Allinson Amadeus Data Processing

Re: Which vm software to use?

2009-06-24 Thread Dodds, Jim
I don't know maybe the perfkt if you have it. But this can be done several other ways with homegrown code using pipes or rexx with a disc service machine or vmutil. You maybe able to get a few skelton pieces code from some people off this list that do similar things. If not I might be able to help

Re: Which vm software to use?

2009-06-24 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
Simply create a VM (user) that simply (in it PROFILE EXEC) WAKEUPs every 4 hours and runs the IND USER command and captures the output to a file (REXX or PIPEs). Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761

Re: Which vm software to use?

2009-06-24 Thread Fran Hensler
Mary - Here is a quick and dirty (tested) minus the WAKEUP routine: 'PIPE < STUDENT USERIDS A | STEM USERID.' /* WAKEUP routine here */ Do i = 1 to userid.0 'PIPE CP IND USER' userid.i '| STEM INDUSER.' record = Date(U) Time() Do j = 1 to induser.0 record = re

Re: Which vm software to use?

2009-06-24 Thread Ivan Warren
Mary Zervos wrote: Hello everyone, A professor here would like an "ind user studentname" taken every 4 hours of his 80 students, with a report sent to him once a week. My question is, which vm software to use and how to collect the data in a file to send the professor. The professor will

Re: Which vm software to use?

2009-06-24 Thread Wandschneider, Scott
I don't know if this will help but the People here use SAS against DISKACNT records. I know nothing about the SAS portion, all I do is upload the Type I DISKACNT records to an MVS system and they do their magic. Thank you, Scott -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [m

Re: Which vm software to use?

2009-06-24 Thread Schuh, Richard
I wouldn't think that would get exactly what he wants, whatever that may be. He has requested what he thinks is a solution rather than asking for a solution to his problem. I would not think that IND USER every 4 hours would provide any really useful data. (e.g. A student logs on just after the

Re: Which vm software to use?

2009-06-24 Thread Kris Buelens
Supposing a file "STUDENT USERIDS' contains the userids of all students, you could create a new virtual machine with this as its PROFILE EXEC: /* */ address command today=date('S') do forever if date('S')<>today then call NewDay call collect 'CP SLEEP 60 MIN' 'CP SLEEP 60 MIN' 'CP S

Re: Which vm software to use?

2009-06-24 Thread David Boyes
Use your performance monitor and extract the data for his students from the general data. > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On > Behalf Of Mary Zervos > Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:53 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subje

Re: OT: IBM Systems Journal and JORD

2009-06-24 Thread David Boyes
Yep. You can still get them from good engineering libraries, but you need to be on good terms with the library. They're expensive journals. The ACM and IEEE digital libraries still index them if you pay for those. It seems kind of penny wise, pound foolish (those two journals are some of IBM's

Which vm software to use?

2009-06-24 Thread Mary Zervos
Hello everyone, A professor here would like an "ind user studentname" taken every 4 hours of his 80 students, with a report sent to him once a week. My question is, which vm software to use and how to collect the data in a file to send the professor. The professor will use his own program

Re: PROBLEMA WITH INSTALLATION OF ISFP/PDF

2009-06-24 Thread Marcy Cortes
You know, All these Tivoli products ship with WAS and/or DB2 bundled inside of them. How come RACF and zSecure can't ship ISPF bundled within. Seems like the product would more useful that way :) Marcy "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the

Re: PROBLEMA WITH INSTALLATION OF ISFP/PDF

2009-06-24 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 06/23/2009 at 01:12 EDT, Mike Walter wrote: > Re-evaluate the actual requirement for ISPF and PDF - as you have > discovered, they are a bit of a pain to install. What do you believe > requires them at your site? Perhaps the IOS3270 on the IBM VM Download > page would suffice (unle

OT: IBM Systems Journal and JORD

2009-06-24 Thread Gentry, Stephen
I'm a little disappointed. IBM is now charging for the IBM Systems Journal and Journal of Research and Development. Although I wasn't an avid reader of these journals, I would check them from time to time for interesting topics, usually when new hardware came out, etc. I guess everybody has expe

Re: TN3270 logon screen

2009-06-24 Thread Schuh, Richard
That sounds like the right place to me, so long as the more commonly used utilities, the ones on the S disk, remain generally available. In fact, I was under the misapprehension that the 193 disk was there for precisely this purpose. Regards, Richard Schuh > > > No. CF1 is where *your*

Re: Why my Dirmaint is unstable?

2009-06-24 Thread Ray Waters
Sunny, z/VMDirectory Maintenance Facility Tailoring and Administration Guide A sample file, CONFIGRC SAMPDVH, is supplied with the product code. If no RACF communication is desired, no action is required. If RACF communication is desired, this file should be renamed to CONFIGRC DATADVH and used

AUTO: Colin J Page2 is out of the office (returning 25/06/2009)

2009-06-24 Thread Colin J Page2
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Re: Pipes Updates?

2009-06-24 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Huegel, Thomas wrote: > A retorical question. Does IBM ever update the pipes module that ships with > new z/VM releases? Since you already said it was a rhetorical question, you've had the appropriate response to it already ;-) The functional changes for CMS Pipe