VM history question

2009-07-12 Thread Chip Davis
Though I'm not sure if it was On the eighteenth of April, in Seventy-Five I suspect that Hardly a man is now alive Who remembers that famous day and year ... when shared segments were implemented in VM. It seems to me that it predated the VM/370 SEPP/BSEPP days when I started, but there's

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Re: VM history question

2009-07-12 Thread Ivan Warren
Chip Davis wrote: ... when shared segments were implemented in VM. It seems to me that it predated the VM/370 SEPP/BSEPP days when I started, but there's been many a synapse lost since then. VM/370 R6 does have DCSS (DisContiguous Shared Segments IIRC) - Even without SEPP or BSEPP. But

Re: Which vm software to use?

2009-07-12 Thread Les Koehler
Mary, I hope that the professor realizes that what he is getting is a statistical sample, not *real* data! As has been mentioned before, it would be much better to get the data from the accounting records, if they are available. For efficiency and correctness, ADDRESS COMMAND should be the

Re: VM history question

2009-07-12 Thread P S
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 5:09 AM, Ivan Warren i...@vmfacility.fr wrote: Chip Davis wrote: ... when shared segments were implemented in VM. It seems to me that it predated the VM/370 SEPP/BSEPP days when I started, but there's been many a synapse lost since then. VM/370 R6 does have DCSS

Re: VM history question

2009-07-12 Thread Ivan Warren
P S wrote: DCSS = DisContiguous *SAVED* Segment. They aren't necessarily shared. Doh ! Of course ! thanks for the correction --Ivan

SYSPROF.EXEC

2009-07-12 Thread Gentry, Stephen
Yes, I know it's preferred that users don't modify this EXEC. Everytime we go to a new release of VM, I have to modify this EXEC. We running vm 5.2 and modifications worked fine on that release. The same mods do not work on 5.4. IIRC I can access the S disk as another fmode, for example E. I

Re: VM history question

2009-07-12 Thread Chip Davis
Oh, I vividly remember the joys of DMKSNT and managing DCSSes, and of trying to squeeze everything below the 16Meg line yet above the VMSIZE. It seemed that the very users who needed access to the most packages also had to have the largest VMs. Things are *MUCH* better now that nearly

Re: VM history question

2009-07-12 Thread Ivan Warren
Chip Davis wrote: Oh, I vividly remember the joys of DMKSNT and managing DCSSes, and of trying to squeeze everything below the 16Meg line yet above the VMSIZE. It seemed that the very users who needed access to the most packages also had to have the largest VMs. Things are *MUCH* better now

Re: SYSPROF.EXEC

2009-07-12 Thread Bruce Roy
It's been awhile since I've done this. But isn't SYSPROF EXEC in the CMSINST segment also? So you should re-gen that segment when you change any EXEC in it. You should also place the latest SYSPROF EXEC on the 490 disk so you don't lose your mod during a maintenance upgrade. Good luck.

Re: SYSPROF.EXEC

2009-07-12 Thread Gentry, Stephen
I had to rebuild the INSTSEG to get it to work. Not as easy as the CMS segment. I wrote notes this time and stuck them in multiple places. Thanks. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Bruce Roy Sent: Sunday, July

Change in RSU 0902 on vswitches?

2009-07-12 Thread Marcy Cortes
Was there a change in there that if you hadn't specificied a native VLAN number that it became 001 instead of whatever VLAN parm was set to? Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee,

Re: VM history question

2009-07-12 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 04:01:34PM +,Chip Davis Wrote: I would think it would have been sometime in the early 70's, so I guess it might have been in the first release of VM/370, but I'm having trouble tracking it down. Caution; going on rusty memory here but ISTR that CP-67 had the

Re: SYSPROF.EXEC

2009-07-12 Thread Berry van Sleeuwen
Or you remove the SYSPROF.XEC from the segement. We used to have a local mod and to avoid problems we had removed it from the segment. Bruce Roy schreef: It’s been awhile since I’ve done this. But isn’t SYSPROF EXEC in the CMSINST segment also? So you should re-gen that segment when you

Re: VM history question

2009-07-12 Thread Mike Walter
Won't be at work for a week to check, but wouldn't the z/VM Migration Guide contain that info? It's a gold mine of release-to-release function, but I can't recall how far back it goes. Surely Sir Lynn would know off the top of his head, and have ALL the gory details in his astonishingly

Re: SYSPROF.EXEC

2009-07-12 Thread Mike Walter
1 - what this mod does (and any pre- or co-reqs). 2- how to apply the mod (command syntax for Xedit, VMSES/E, COPYFILE, etc.) 3- How to test the mod and expected output. All that is kept in our AUX files on our own local mods disk (not IBM's AUXLCL which can have IBM and ISV local mods on it).

Re: GCS GROUP command

2009-07-12 Thread Gillis, Mark
The instructions are listed in Appendix A.2 of the Group Control System manual. Mark. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Gentry, Stephen Sent: Monday, 13 July 2009 4:11 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: GCS GROUP command I need to

HCPLGA361E LOGOFF/FORCE pending for user MAINT

2009-07-12 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Hi I am receiving this message every time I try to force MAINT. I think something is not right leading up to this. I tried logging on to MIANT with HERE I get the user id for a few minutes and than by session is lost. I can not see any logs that might give me any indication what might be

Re: HCPLGA361E LOGOFF/FORCE pending for user MAINT

2009-07-12 Thread Mike Walter
Are there any messages on the OPERATOR console about MAINT forced by SYSTEM? By default, the system will try to forced of disconnected userids that have a VM READ or CP READ posted 15 after they disconnect. If you get MAINT connected for a little while with Logon MAINT HERE, then something is

NETSTAT and PIPES

2009-07-12 Thread Gentry, Stephen
(I tried to post this to the cms pipes list but it was rejected) I have a simple EXEC that pipes the output of the NETSTAT command to a stem. If I issue NETSTAT in a normal CMS session, I get the results back that I expect. When run it in an EXEC containing a PIPE, I get errors from the

Re: Change in RSU 0902 on vswitches?

2009-07-12 Thread Alan Altmark
On Sunday, 07/12/2009 at 01:18 EDT, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote: Was there a change in there that if you hadn't specificied a native VLAN number that it became 001 instead of whatever VLAN parm was set to? Yes. I think it was changed as part of the port isolation

Re: Change in RSU 0902 on vswitches?

2009-07-12 Thread Marcy Cortes
That's what I suspected. The PSP bucket needs a warning for the folks whose networks don't work after 902. Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy,

Re: Change in RSU 0902 on vswitches?

2009-07-12 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 07/13/2009 at 12:44 EDT, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote: That's what I suspected. The PSP bucket needs a warning for the folks whose networks don't work after 902. I have forwarded your concern to the developers, though it is N/A to people who follow the