Re: z/VM PSP Buckets

2011-02-17 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
I opened a thread here 6 months ago, Applying Maintenance - Best Practice, which is in the archives. It contains many helpful instructions on exactly how to apply maintenance including setting up a Level 2, VM under VM, to initially IVP your maintenance. Maintenance should rarely be applied

Re: z/VM Monitor Records

2011-02-17 Thread Jeff Gribbin
There's no doubt that, if you can afford it, it's a good idea to take one of the commercial options. Failing that, I'd strongly recommend having a look at the PIPELINE stage called STARMON - it's very easy to set up a data-collector based around STARMON. (A search of the archives using the

Re: Watson

2011-02-17 Thread P L Lovely
Thanks2 D. Boyes for the explanation! Sharing: FYI: noted from article: PCMAG.COM by Lance Ulanoff: From end of article: Microsoft, Symantec, ASUS and everyone else making technology for consumers, I have a warning for you: IBM and Watson have just put you on notice. Your customers

Re: z/VM Monitor Records

2011-02-17 Thread Berry van Sleeuwen
Hi Billy, First you can look at MONWRITE within VM itself. It writes all records to disk. Process it wth MONVIEW (on the VM download pages). We have an own process. Main reason is we want to enable all MONITOR in VM so we can monitor all parameters online. But we only want to write selected

2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation

2011-02-17 Thread Sherry Everhart
Hello Everyone, I need some clarification. I'm trying to figure out how to use DVDs to install z/VM 5.4 under z/VM 5.2. In Chapter 4, Plan Your DVD Installation, in the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, unde r Installation methods, Second-level Installation, one of the User ID

Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation

2011-02-17 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
Your not...you need a bigger 3390!I just did the install for 6.1 via FTP. Is that viable for you? Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Sherry Everhart Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:36

Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation

2011-02-17 Thread Scott Rohling
You're not installing from a VM minidisk - you're installing from a DVD .. no? So you can ignore this part... There are some other disks that you need defined (a 22CC and others as I recall) -- and I always just defined them using temp space to do the install: DEF T3390 22CC 5 FORMAT 22CC B

DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Steve Perez
Hello Listers, If I have DEVICE addresses in the SYSTEM CONFIG file to be OFFLINE_AT_IPL , is there to dynamically have those devices varied online or override at IPL of a zVM 5.4 ? Thanks, Steve.

Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation

2011-02-17 Thread Scott Rohling
I should clarify and say that to install from 'DVD' - .. you can have the DVD mounted under any workstation/server (including the HMC) that is accessible to z/VM via the network so FTP can be used to do the install and retrieve the zVM parts.I myself typically just use a .iso file mounted

Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Scott Rohling
CP VARY ON address ?? Scott Rohling On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Steve Perez sspe...@corelogic.com wrote: Hello Listers, If I have DEVICE addresses in the SYSTEM CONFIG file to be OFFLINE_AT_IPL, is there to dynamically have those devices varied online or override at IPL of a zVM 5.4

Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Quay, Jonathan (IHG)
If you don't want to change your SYSTEM CONFIG file to specify those devices as ONLINE_AT_IPL, you could vary the devices online in your AUTOLOG1 profile exec. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Perez Sent: Thursday,

Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Schuh, Richard
You could also have a second config file that includes the devices in the online_at_ipl list. When you ipl, put a console address in the LOADPARMS area (or as the LOADPARM parameter if you are ipling 2nd level) and specify the alternate config file name in the SALIPL screen. If the devices are

Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Perez, Steve S
Unfortunately we are not at the point where we can issue the VARY online command. The system (Test DR z/VM environment) cannot continue because the OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement contains the address of the PAGE volumes. So we are thinking that having the PAGE volume addresses included in the

Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation

2011-02-17 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
As a Note: You can mount an .ISO under Windows using freeware (I use Virtual CloneDrive from SlySoft.com). Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Thursday,

Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
You can actually mix them: Devices , Online_at_IPL -, Offline_at_IPL 000C-000E, Offline_at_IPL 0170-0179, Offline_at_IPL 0500-053F, : : Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.

Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation

2011-02-17 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
Sherry, Instead of installing direct from an FTP server, you can put the files on a VM minidisk and install from there. To do that, the minidisk must have at least 4500 cylinders. Back when DVD installation was first introduced (z/VM 5.1.0, I think), we only had 3390-3 disks on VM, so I tried

Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Perez, Steve S
What is the command to override that OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement in the SALIPL screen ? Or can we ? Thanks, Steve From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:10 PM

Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Quay, Jonathan (IHG)
Do you have a different system config file that has your page packs as online? You could use the SAIPL screen to point to that config file. Do you have spare packs that are online at ipl? You could format them as page and clip them to the volsers you system is expecting for its page packs, then

Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Schuh, Richard
You specify the filename of the desired CONFIG file in a provided space. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Perez, Steve S Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:14 PM To:

Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Perez, Steve S
I do not have another filename to specify. I can create one at a later time after we finish this test because we have a time frame to get this test to work, but in the meantime, is there an override command to the DEVICES OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement in the SYSTEM CONFIG that I can use through the

Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation

2011-02-17 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 02/17/2011 at 02:37 EST, Sherry Everhart severh...@maccnet.com wrote: I need some clarification. I'm trying to figure out how to use DVDs to install z/VM 5.4 under z/VM 5.2. In Chapter 4, Plan Your DVD Installation, in the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, under

Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation

2011-02-17 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
Sherry, Note that what I was referring to in my previous note and what Alan describes below are not the same thing. You can do what Alan described, using the VM FTP server to serve the files. You can also install from a VM minidisk without using any FTP server. You can get the files on the

Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Kris Buelens
The overrides in the SAPL only permit to enter another filename to influence OFFLINE/ONLINE, no special keyword. But, what's so difficult in copying your current SYSTEM CONFIG in eg TEST CONFIG, make your changes and specifying FNAME=TEST in the SAPL screen? 2011/2/17 Perez, Steve S

Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation

2011-02-17 Thread Sherry Everhart
Hi Scott, I have a userid, VM54INST defined in the directory already: USER VM54INST 256M 256M ABCDEFG INCLUDE MACCPROF OPTION LNKNOPAS MDISK 0191 3390 1201 10 EM0F05 MR RVM54INS WVM54INS MDISK 3390 1211 5 EM0F05 MR RVM54INS WVM54INS MDISK 222C 3390 1216 5 EM0F05 MR

Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation

2011-02-17 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
Oh, you don't have TCP/IP on your 1st level VM? Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Sherry Everhart Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:56 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: 2nd level

Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Perez, Steve S
Mike, The answer to both those question is 1) yes 2) no. Our DR remote location has 2 LPARs dedicated for our DR Testing. One LPAR is for z/OS and the other for z/VM. I will keep your recovery scenario/suggestion in mind. It looks like something that can be useful in the future when the

Re: z/VM 6.2 release date?

2011-02-17 Thread Karl Huf
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Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation

2011-02-17 Thread Sherry Everhart
Frank, no, we don't have TCP/IP running on 1st level VM. (At least I don't think so!) And I don't understand the Filepool method that Alan spoke of either. Sorry, Alan, but mostly when you tell me things it all sounds a bit like when Charlie Brown's teacher talks (Good grief... :))

Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation

2011-02-17 Thread Scott Rohling
To see if you have TCPIP running - try: VMLINK TCPMAINT 592 IFCONFIG If you get a response showing an IP address, etc -- then TCPIP is probably running -- Try PING xx.xx.xx.xx(where xx.xx.xx.xx is the IP address IFCONFIG gave you). If you really don't have TCPIP -- then you will have to

Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation

2011-02-17 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
Sherry, The only way to get 4500 cylinders from a 3390-3 is to put two of them in an SFS filepool. If you already have this set up, then the rest is relatively easy. You can use the VM minidisk install method with minor changes. Upload the files to SFS with your terminal emulator, then

Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation

2011-02-17 Thread Sherry Everhart
vmlink tcpmaint 592 DMSVML2060I TCPMAINT 592 linked as 0121 file mode Z Ready; ifconfig DTCIFC2605E TCP/IP stack TCPIP is not available Ready(00012); It's not running. :(

Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Mike Walter
Steve, If I understand correctly your DASD is mirrored to your offsite location. If so the 1-pack recovery system would/could be mirrored there as well. Then there would be no need to keep a DDR tape dump of that volume there. But when preparing for D.R. both belts and suspenders (and offsite

Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation

2011-02-17 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 02/17/2011 at 04:15 EST, Sherry Everhart severh...@maccnet.com wrote: Frank, no, we don't have TCP/IP running on 1st level VM. (At least I don't think so!) And I don't understand the Filepool method that Alan spoke of either. Sorry, Alan, but mostly when you tell me things it

Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 02/17/2011 at 03:18 EST, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: You specify the filename of the desired CONFIG file in a provided space. On SAPL: fn=filename On the LOADPARM: FNxx (yep, limited to 6 chars in filename) Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM

Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 02/17/2011 at 05:48 EST, Mike Walter mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com wrote: If you're reading this and are new to z/VM, take one thing away... build a stable (tested and rarely changed) 1-pack z/VM recovery system. It could save your job one day (or dark night). The truly

Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Perez, Steve S
Thanks, Alan and all who have responded. It has been a learning experience and appreciate everyone's input. Kind Regards, Steve -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:53 PM