Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-09 Thread Schuh, Richard
:48 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit Curiousity question, because I don't know VM:Backup, is there a way to tell VM:Backup to only use n% of a tape? Our z/OS backup utility can be told to do this. If this is possible, then you could

Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-09 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 06/09/2008 at 04:06 EDT, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would hope that the use of stickers to denote EOT would have gone out way back in my career. Reflective stickers went away with the 3480. It introduced a servo track that the drive uses to know the position of the

Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-09 Thread Schuh, Richard
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit On Monday, 06/09/2008 at 04:06 EDT, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would hope that the use of stickers to denote EOT would have gone out way back in my career. Reflective stickers went away with the 3480

Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread Dodds, Jim
I think in the case of having to run 2 backups jobs I would run one backup job and then run a utility job to copy the 1st set of tapes to the remote set of tapes. Jim Dodds Systems Programmer Kentucky State University 400 East Main Street Frankfort, Ky 40601 502 597 6114 -Original

Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread Mark Wheeler
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Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread Mark Wheeler
Curiousity question, because I don't know VM:Backup, is there a way to tell VM:Backup to only use n% of a tape? Our z/OS backup utility can be told to do this. If this is possible, then you could fill a tape up to, say, 80% and be fairly confident that the second tape would be long enough to

Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Wheeler Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 8:39 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit Can't do that, unless you can guarantee

Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread Mike Walter
or policies of Hewitt Associates. Mark Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 06/06/2008 08:50 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes

Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread Dodds, Jim
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Wheeler Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 9:39 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit Can't do that, unless you can guarantee that the tapes at the remote site are longer than the local copy (which would be unlikely). When

Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread Stracka, James (GTS)
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit Curiousity question, because I don't know VM:Backup, is there a way to tell VM:Backup to only use n% of a tape? Our z/OS backup utility can be told to do this. If this is possible, then you could fill a tape up to, say, 80

Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stracka, James (GTS) Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:36 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit Now that is interesting. How does that OS

Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread Tom Duerbusch
There is a round about way of doing this. Fran and I came up with it about 4 years ago. VMBACKUP can backup to DASD. With that, you need to specify the size of a tape file that will exist on disk. Then, you do, in my case, a twin backup specifying a disk file and tape. When the disk file is

Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread Mike Walter
, James (GTS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 06/06/2008 10:35 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit Now

Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
Can't do that, unless you can guarantee that the tapes at the remote site are longer than the local copy (which would be unlikely). When the backup runs, writing to a given pair of tapes ends when the first one hits EOT. That's yet another complication for us if were to use twins. We use 9840

Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread Llewellyn, Mark
Subject: Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit Can't do that, unless you can guarantee that the tapes at the remote site are longer than the local copy (which would be unlikely). When the backup runs, writing to a given pair of tapes ends when the first one hits EOT. You would also need