Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL

2010-07-15 Thread clifford jackson
system, is there a way to add logic to the system config file to control which DASD I want online and which I vary offline at IPL time, without customizing the IOCP.. Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 10:26:02 -0500 From: r...@velocitysoftware.com Subject: Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL To: IBMVM

Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL

2010-07-15 Thread Schuh, Richard
, July 14, 2010 2:01 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL On Wednesday, 07/14/2010 at 02:03 EDT, Gregg reed.gr...@gmail.com wrote: So if it can't be controlled at the LParr, then priv class C(B too?) needs to be locked down to the few MVS security folk

Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL

2010-07-15 Thread Mike Walter
cliffordjackson...@msn.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 07/15/2010 10:24 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL I have a production site and a DR site

Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL

2010-07-15 Thread Marcy Cortes
Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 8:48 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Devices OFFLINE at IPL Yes! Use the Record Qualifiers capability of the SYSTEM CONFIG file. For example: System_ID 2094 %%1234 PRODVM

Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL

2010-07-15 Thread Schuh, Richard
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of clifford jackson Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 8:25 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL I have a production site and a DR site, the production site is being

Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL

2010-07-15 Thread Marcy Cortes
: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:15 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Devices OFFLINE at IPL Presumably, if you are at the DR site, your main site is unavailable. That may be all you really need. One possibility, procedural instead of program logic, would be to use the SALIPL screen

Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL

2010-07-15 Thread Mike Walter
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL The drawback to Mike's approach is that your system name changes at your DR site. That would cause more problems than it would solve for us. Dennis

Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL

2010-07-15 Thread clifford jackson
Yep, that was one consideration Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 09:14:33 -0700 From: rsc...@visa.com Subject: Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Presumably, if you are at the DR site, your main site is unavailable. That may be all you really need. One possibility

Devices OFFLINE at IPL

2010-07-14 Thread Billy Bingham
Would the following be the proper way to specify devices, in the SYSTEM CONFIG file, that I don't want to come online at an IPL: Devices , Online_at_IPL -, Sensed -, Offline_at_IPL 0500-050F Thanks, Billy

Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL

2010-07-14 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Devices OFFLINE at IPL Would the following be the proper way to specify devices, in the SYSTEM CONFIG file, that I don't want to come online at an IPL: Devices , Online_at_IPL -, Sensed -

Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL

2010-07-14 Thread Rich Smrcina
That's one way, as long as the device numbers are never, ever used in this VM system. If they are, on the next IPL it will cause a little problem. Another possibility is to have an exec go through the DASD device list and vary off the devices based on whether the volume 'belongs' to the VM

Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL

2010-07-14 Thread Schuh, Richard
, Your gun, your bullet, your foot. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 8:26 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL

Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL

2010-07-14 Thread Brian Nielsen
If you never want to see certain devices in the VM LPAR then the IOCP should be coded to not allow that LPAR to access the devices. Brian Nielsen On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 09:03:33 -0700, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrot e: We have thousands of devices in the IOCP that we never want to see on ou

Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL

2010-07-14 Thread Schuh, Richard
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL If you never want to see certain devices in the VM LPAR then the IOCP should be coded to not allow that LPAR to access the devices. Brian Nielsen On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 09:03:33 -0700, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrot= e: We

Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL

2010-07-14 Thread Gregg
Isn't Not_accepted/Not_Sensed(unsupported) more to do with how CP handles devices Dynamically defined/added by a different LPar(Not_Accepted, specifically)? On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: Sorry, but there are the intermittent times when we need to see

Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL

2010-07-14 Thread Brian Nielsen
, including this one. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Nielsen Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:16 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL If you never

Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL

2010-07-14 Thread Gregg
Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Nielsen Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:16 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL If you never want to see certain devices in the VM LPAR then the IOCP should be coded to not allow that LPAR

Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL

2010-07-14 Thread Schuh, Richard
For certain. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Gregg Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 11:03 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL So if it can't

Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL

2010-07-14 Thread Schuh, Richard
a device dynamically added to the LPAR. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Gregg Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:52 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL

Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL

2010-07-14 Thread Mark Wheeler
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 12:10:40 -0700 From: rsc...@visa.com Subject: Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU If a device is sensed and there is a device present, a VMDBK is built for it regardless of its online/offline status. There may be other blocks created

Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL

2010-07-14 Thread Gregg
I don't know, give it a try; from LP1 define a device on LP2 that has a CU w/paths candidate/access lists. If LP2 has not_accepted it won't show up... w/o intervention, such as cp set accepted... then if you're wild enough to have 2 LPars w/DynIO enabled, you can steel the cookie and define a

Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL

2010-07-14 Thread Schuh, Richard
We have already been doing it for a few years. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Gregg Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:06 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Devices OFFLINE

Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL

2010-07-14 Thread Gregg
Cheers! give me a logon and priv class... naw. I could be wrong, I have been wrong, let's run w/that. On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: We have already been doing it for a few years. Regards, Richard Schuh -- Gregg Reed No Plan, survives execution

Re: Devices OFFLINE at IPL

2010-07-14 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 07/14/2010 at 02:03 EDT, Gregg reed.gr...@gmail.com wrote: So if it can't be controlled at the LParr, then priv class C(B too?) needs to be locked down to the few MVS security folk trust. - Never give privilege class C to anyone who is not a trained AND trusted z/VM systems