Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL

2011-01-26 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Just to follow up on this thread: > >The response was: > >"The developer has decided not to change the message type for this messag > >e." > > > That's a totally BS answer. Call them back and challenge it. > > There should at least be a justification for why the developer refused to > change

Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL

2010-12-27 Thread David Boyes
On 12/27/10 11:18 AM, "Mike Walter" wrote: > >The response was: >"The developer has decided not to change the message type for this messag >e." That's a totally BS answer. Call them back and challenge it. There should at least be a justification for why the developer refused to change it, espe

Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL

2010-12-27 Thread Kris Buelens
lect option which > would go a long way to making the z/VM IPL much less error prone. > > > > *"Schuh, Richard" * > Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System > > 12/27/2010 12:03 PM > Please respond to > The IBM z/VM Operating System > > To > IBMV

Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL

2010-12-27 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL Which begs the question, what are the criteria for determining the level of a message? I would think that something that could cause potentially serious system problems, like getting an incorrect CP OWNED volume, would warrant an E. O

Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL

2010-12-27 Thread Schuh, Richard
system. Regards, Richard Schuh > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Walter > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 8:18 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL >

Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL

2010-12-27 Thread Mike Walter
Just closing the loop on this thread... I did open a Sev 3 (should have been Sev 4) PMR for this issue on November 20, 2010, pasting pretty much the same text as posted earler to justify the W-level ("Warning") message type on this mesesage. The PMR response was received today, December 27,

Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL

2010-10-20 Thread Tom Huegel
Instead of UUID I like the idea of a user supplied (maintained) passcode that would be used by all OS's whenever AVR routines were used. Maybe 20 characters long.. copy programs could ask if you wanted to change it. Put something in there like 'RSU 1002' or 'Joe's test vol'. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010

Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL

2010-10-20 Thread Mike Walter
ot; 10/20/2010 01:27 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:38:24 -0400, Alan Altmark wrote: > Rich Corak has explained on previous occasions how volser recognition > work

Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL

2010-10-20 Thread Stephen Powell
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:38:24 -0400, Alan Altmark wrote: > Rich Corak has explained on previous occasions how volser recognition > works. If CP detects a duplicate volser for a device to be attached to > SYSTEM at IPL, you will get > > HCP954I DASD rdev1 VOLID volid IS A DUPLICATE OF DASD rdev

Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL

2010-10-20 Thread Mike Walter
ot my employer's. "Frank M. Ramaekers" Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 10/20/2010 12:44 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL IBM has stated that this is not

Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL

2010-10-20 Thread Stephen Powell
On Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:44 AM, August Carideo wrote: > > and I thought all you need to do was make sure the duplicates where at a > higher address on the string > and it would hit the lower ones 1st and advise there was a dupe > after reading these posts I wonder I have not looked at th

Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL

2010-10-20 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 10/20/2010 at 12:52 EDT, "Schuh, Richard" wrote: > Not adequate. What happens if one of the devices at the lower address fails to > respond to the IPL roll call? That is a case of having only 1 device, the wrong > one, with the volser. Mantra: Only volumes that you WANT online

Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL

2010-10-20 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU z/VM Operating cc System Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL 10/20/2010 12:38 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System

Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL

2010-10-20 Thread Mike Walter
t;The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL Good point Yes from other posts I can see that will most likely at least rename so called fallback and look into that exec thanks Augie "Schuh,

Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL

2010-10-20 Thread August Carideo
cc Subject Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL 10/20/2010 12:52

Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL

2010-10-20 Thread Schuh, Richard
mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of August Carideo > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 9:44 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL > > > > and I thought all you need to do was make sure the duplicates > where at a higher address o

Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL

2010-10-20 Thread August Carideo
Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL 10/20/2010 12:38 PM

Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL

2010-10-20 Thread August Carideo
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Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL

2010-10-20 Thread Bob Bates
eorge Henke/NYLIC Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:24 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL I plan to DDRed my system disks 540RES, 540SPL, 540W01, 540W02, before I apply maintenance to Level 1 and PUT2PROD, so that I have a *hot* fallback when I IPL. the maintenance.

Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL

2010-10-20 Thread Ward, Mike S
Where can one pick up that wonderful exec? From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:35 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL Here's what I do (I think you rem

Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL

2010-10-20 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
n Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 10/20/2010 11:41 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL Relabel your “standby disks”, maybe put an X in the first character. WRITE DOWN the addresses of your system packs

Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL

2010-10-20 Thread Michael Coffin
: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL I plan to DDRed my system disks 540RES, 540SPL, 540W01, 540W02, before I apply maintenance to Level 1 and PUT2PROD, so that I have a *hot* fallback when I IPL. the maintenance. How can I be sure the IPL will not pick up these standby di

Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL

2010-10-20 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL Here’s what I do (I think you remember my FLASH2ND EXEC): 1) Use FLASH2ND to create a 2nd level/backup system a. This will use a new prefixed VOLID of ‘54B’ (rep

Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL

2010-10-20 Thread McBride, Catherine
That's slllick. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:35 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL Here's what I d

Re: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL

2010-10-20 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of George Henke/NYLIC Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:24 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL I plan to DDRed my syst

Duplicate VOLSERs at IPL

2010-10-20 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
I plan to DDRed my system disks 540RES, 540SPL, 540W01, 540W02, before I apply maintenance to Level 1 and PUT2PROD, so that I have a *hot* fallback when I IPL. the maintenance. How can I be sure the IPL will not pick up these standby disks but WILL pick them up if I need them for fallback? Is