Re: IPL Help for old 9672 with VM/ESA 2.4

2006-12-21 Thread Hans Rempel
Hi Larry. It is possible that the 2.4 vm system ddr does not support it. It does work on z/VM 3.1 and later DDR. For testing in your VM userid you must use LOADPARM and not PARM. I kept my tape volid so I had to IPL twice to get past the volid. The rest of the tape should then hold the DDR

Re: IPL Help for old 9672 with VM/ESA 2.4

2006-12-20 Thread Larry Israel
Although we have IPLed our VM/ESA 2.4 on our 9672 using the HMC, I also need to know how to run a DDR restore. With a DDR tape that I had built with DDR at the front, followed by a full-pack dump after it, I could not get it to work under VM. With a tape at 181 and the disk pack attached at 521,

Re: IPL Help for old 9672 with VM/ESA 2.4

2006-11-24 Thread Kris Buelens
One major caution: be sure the volume you're doing this on is in the Offline_at_IPL in your production SYSTEM CONFIG; you don't want this directory accidentally coming online if something happens to the production volume that contains your normal CP directory. Sorry to disagree: CP will never use

Re: IPL Help for old 9672 with VM/ESA 2.4

2006-11-24 Thread David Boyes
One major caution: be sure the volume you're doing this on is in the Offline_at_IPL in your production SYSTEM CONFIG; you don't want this directory accidentally coming online if something happens to the production volume that contains your normal CP directory. Sorry to disagree: CP will

Re: IPL Help for old 9672 with VM/ESA 2.4

2006-11-24 Thread Hans Rempel
for making life at work easy. Hans Rempel -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: November 23, 2006 11:49 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IPL Help for old 9672 with VM/ESA 2.4 I therefore created a mini

Re: IPL Help for old 9672 with VM/ESA 2.4

2006-11-23 Thread Larry Israel
Thank you for all the responses. The consensus is to try to find used controllers. The FLEXCUB solution is more elegant and versatile, but we have no xSeries machines lying around, and are looking for a cheap solution. By the way, I understand that even if we can get our system to load via the

Re: IPL Help for old 9672 with VM/ESA 2.4

2006-11-23 Thread Hans Rempel
Israel Sent: November 23, 2006 4:51 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IPL Help for old 9672 with VM/ESA 2.4 Thank you for all the responses. The consensus is to try to find used controllers. The FLEXCUB solution is more elegant and versatile, but we have no xSeries machines lying around

Re: IPL Help for old 9672 with VM/ESA 2.4

2006-11-23 Thread David Boyes
I therefore created a mini VM system with TCPIP started so that I could restore it using this method and have an VM system that I could IPL. I did that a few years back. I'd can't remember off hand how that was done. Does anyone else remember? This is a good thing to do. (in fact, I'll be

Re: IPL Help for old 9672 with VM/ESA 2.4

2006-10-27 Thread Gary Eheman
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:37:39 +0200, Larry Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip This is a request to you archaeologist. snip Well, Software Archaeology happens to be a trademark of my employer. Consider checking out our FLEXCUB product (Control Unit Behavior) which could easily handle your

IPL Help for old 9672 with VM/ESA 2.4

2006-10-26 Thread Larry Israel
This is a request to you archaeologist. We have a 9672-A14, running VM/ESA 2.4, that was originally supposed to die in 2001. It is still alive, but not feeling too well. The big problem is our 3274 (you read right) controllers. The 3174s are gone, but we need something when/if we have to IPL.

Re: IPL Help for old 9672 with VM/ESA 2.4

2006-10-26 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
-mail from your system. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Israel Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:38 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: IPL Help for old 9672 with VM/ESA 2.4 This is a request to you archaeologist

Re: IPL Help for old 9672 with VM/ESA 2.4

2006-10-26 Thread David Boyes
Probably the cheapest solution is to buy a used 3174-11L and decommission the 3274s. Used price is less than $1K USD (heck, I've got one I'll give to you if you want to ship it there), and it's not worth the effort to try to figure out another solution for that little $$$. If the 3174s are

Re: IPL Help for old 9672 with VM/ESA 2.4

2006-10-26 Thread Edward M. Martin
Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ext. 40441 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Israel Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:38 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: IPL Help for old 9672

Re: IPL Help for old 9672 with VM/ESA 2.4

2006-10-26 Thread Kris Buelens
System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: IPL Help for old 9672 with VM/ESA 2.4 You can IPL VM2.4 to the SYSTEM_CONSOLE instead of a 3270 console. Your SYSTEM_CONSOLE is the HMC's System Messages window ( a sort of line-mode/tty interface, not full-screen