Re: Initializing 3590 tapes?

2009-05-22 Thread Tom Duerbusch
1. Try another tape. Depending on your source for tapes, we have experienced 1 in 10 bad 3590 tapes. Sent them back and got a replacement. 2. If multiple tapes are bad, call service. (bad drive G) Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting Rich Greenberg ric...@panix.com 5/21/2009 5:58 PM On: Thu,

Re: Initializing 3590 tapes?

2009-05-22 Thread Mike Rydberg
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Initializing 3590 tapes? Hi all, I feel a little dumb.. It's so long since I used a tape, and even longer since I created a tape, I think I'm missing something... Is there a way to initialize a brand new 3590 tape on VM? Everything I've tried (TAPE WTM, DDR, etc.) gives

Initializing 3590 tapes?

2009-05-21 Thread Lee Stewart
Hi all, I feel a little dumb.. It's so long since I used a tape, and even longer since I created a tape, I think I'm missing something... Is there a way to initialize a brand new 3590 tape on VM? Everything I've tried (TAPE WTM, DDR, etc.) gives me: DMSTIO2139I VDEV 181 SENSE gives

Re: Initializing 3590 tapes?

2009-05-21 Thread Peter . Webb
Have you flicked the switch on the cartridge to write enable it? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Lee Stewart Sent: May 21, 2009 15:50 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Initializing 3590 tapes? Hi all, I feel a little

Re: Initializing 3590 tapes?

2009-05-21 Thread Huegel, Thomas
: Initializing 3590 tapes? Hi all, I feel a little dumb.. It's so long since I used a tape, and even longer since I created a tape, I think I'm missing something... Is there a way to initialize a brand new 3590 tape on VM? Everything I've tried (TAPE WTM, DDR, etc.) gives me: DMSTIO2139I VDEV 181 SENSE

Re: Initializing 3590 tapes?

2009-05-21 Thread Lee Stewart
Sent: May 21, 2009 15:50 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Initializing 3590 tapes? Hi all, I feel a little dumb.. It's so long since I used a tape, and even longer since I created a tape, I think I'm missing something... Is there a way to initialize a brand new 3590 tape on VM? Everything

Re: Initializing 3590 tapes?

2009-05-21 Thread Lee Stewart
...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Lee Stewart Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 2:50 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Initializing 3590 tapes? Hi all, I feel a little dumb.. It's so long since I used a tape, and even longer since I created a tape, I think I'm missing something... Is there a way to initialize

Re: Initializing 3590 tapes?

2009-05-21 Thread Imler, Steven J
Subject: Re: Initializing 3590 tapes? Yes, they are write enabled... One of the first things I double checked... Lee peter.w...@ttc.ca wrote: Have you flicked the switch on the cartridge to write enable it? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib

Re: Initializing 3590 tapes?

2009-05-21 Thread Lee Stewart
Stewart Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 03:56 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Initializing 3590 tapes? Yes, they are write enabled... One of the first things I double checked... Lee peter.w...@ttc.ca wrote: Have you flicked the switch on the cartridge to write enable it? -Original

Re: Initializing 3590 tapes?

2009-05-21 Thread Schuh, Richard
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Initializing 3590 tapes? Use ... TAPE WVOL1 ... to re-initialize the tapes. JR (Steven) Imler CA +1-703-708-3479 steven.im...@ca.com -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Lee

Re: Initializing 3590 tapes?

2009-05-21 Thread David Boyes
steven.im...@ca.com -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Lee Stewart Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 03:56 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Initializing 3590 tapes? Yes, they are write enabled... One of the first

Re: Initializing 3590 tapes?

2009-05-21 Thread Lee Stewart
Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Lee Stewart Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 03:56 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Initializing 3590 tapes? Yes, they are write enabled... One

Re: Initializing 3590 tapes?

2009-05-21 Thread Mike Walter
Perchance was this 3590C tape degaussed? I seem to remember earlier (years ago) posts about 3590's becoming expensive paperweights on VM systems when they were degaussed and there was no neighboring, friendly z/OS system nearby to re-init them. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions

Re: Initializing 3590 tapes?

2009-05-21 Thread Schuh, Richard
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Initializing 3590 tapes? The TAPE WVOL1 gives me the same error... I just took one of the z/OS tapes that they have inited (IEHINITT) and I was able to write to it fine... (Of course now they have to reinint it ;-) Lee David Boyes wrote: Try TAPE MODESET

Re: Initializing 3590 tapes?

2009-05-21 Thread Huegel, Thomas
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 3:37 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Initializing 3590 tapes? The TAPE WVOL1 gives me the same error... I just took one of the z/OS tapes that they have inited (IEHINITT) and I was able to write to it fine... (Of course now they have to reinint it ;-) Lee

Re: Initializing 3590 tapes?

2009-05-21 Thread Lee Stewart
Not degaussed (that I know of), but supposedly brand new... Lee Mike Walter wrote: Perchance was this 3590C tape degaussed? I seem to remember earlier (years ago) posts about 3590's becoming expensive paperweights on VM systems when they were degaussed and there was no neighboring, friendly

Re: Initializing 3590 tapes?

2009-05-21 Thread Lee Stewart
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Initializing 3590 tapes? The TAPE WVOL1 gives me the same error... I just took one of the z/OS tapes that they have inited (IEHINITT) and I was able to write to it fine... (Of course now they have to reinint it ;-) Lee David Boyes wrote: Try TAPE MODESET

Re: Initializing 3590 tapes?

2009-05-21 Thread Scott Rohling
: Initializing 3590 tapes? The TAPE WVOL1 gives me the same error... I just took one of the z/OS tapes that they have inited (IEHINITT) and I was able to write to it fine... (Of course now they have to reinint it ;-) Lee David Boyes wrote: Try TAPE MODESET (3590C TAPE WVOL1 (TAP1 TAPE

Re: Initializing 3590 tapes?

2009-05-21 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Thu, May 21, 2009 at 02:36:49PM -0600,Lee Stewart Wrote: The TAPE WVOL1 gives me the same error... I just took one of the z/OS tapes that they have inited (IEHINITT) and I was able to write to it fine... (Of course now they have to reinint it Lee, Have the Z/OS folks run IEHINITT on

Re: Initializing 3590 tapes?

2009-05-21 Thread Scott Rohling
Well - yeah - but that's not really solving the problem.. you shouldn't need z/OS to initiliaze tapes. I mean - this 'is' the z/VM list ;-) Scott On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Rich Greenberg ric...@panix.com wrote: On: Thu, May 21, 2009 at 02:36:49PM -0600,Lee Stewart Wrote: The TAPE

Re: Initializing 3590 tapes?

2009-05-21 Thread Lee Stewart
It does appear that if you have either brand new or degaussed 3590 tapes, you need an extra priced feature to initialize them.. Which feature? Why z/OS of course... Sigh... Thanks for all the advice/suggestions... Lee Scott Rohling wrote: Well - yeah - but that's not really solving the

Re: Initializing 3590 tapes?

2009-05-21 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 05/21/2009 at 05:09 EDT, Lee Stewart lstewart.dsgr...@attglobal.net wrote: Not degaussed (that I know of), but supposedly brand new... New tapes can be initialized or not. If ordering from IBM or an IBM-authorized dealer, you order 3599-xxx. Whether the tape are initialized