Re: VM operator console?

2008-10-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 10/08/2008 at 05:50 EDT, Rick Troth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is one feature of OSA-ICC that sucks ... It does not close the telnet session when DISCONN from VM. (or when logging off) This is where 'logoff hold' or 'disc hold' are really handy in a direct (VM TCP/IP)

Re: VM operator console?

2008-10-08 Thread Rick Troth
At my shop, we use OSA-ICC all the time. Works great. There is one feature of OSA-ICC that sucks ... It does not close the telnet session when DISCONN from VM. (or when logging off) This is where 'logoff hold' or 'disc hold' are really handy in a direct (VM TCP/IP) telnet session. How come

VM operator console?

2008-10-07 Thread Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E]
We are an MVS shop setting up a Linux under VM pilot and need to have some procedures in place for operations. We are trying to figure out how/where we want the operators to have console access. Right now only the sys. progs. have any access to VM and we use a telnet session from our desks to a

Re: VM operator console?

2008-10-07 Thread August Carideo
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Re: VM operator console?

2008-10-07 Thread Gentry, Stephen
, 2008 10:20 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: VM operator console? We are an MVS shop setting up a Linux under VM pilot and need to have some procedures in place for operations. We are trying to figure out how/where we want the operators to have console access. Right now only the sys. progs

Re: VM operator console?

2008-10-07 Thread Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E]
- From: Gentry, Stephen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:33 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM operator console? I would recommend not using the HMC as an operator console. There is a VM userid called OPERATOR, which is usually logged on when VM IPL's. What

Re: VM operator console?

2008-10-07 Thread Brian Nielsen
We run z/Linux under z/VM in one LPAR and several z/OS LPARs. All access is via TN3270 sessions. While the operators have consoles for each z/OS image and several other sessions to various z/OS LPARs, their z/VM sessio n normally sits at the VM logo. The OPERATOR userid runs disconnected

Re: VM operator console?

2008-10-07 Thread Scott Rohling
PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:33 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM operator console? I would recommend not using the HMC as an operator console. There is a VM userid called OPERATOR, which is usually logged on when VM IPL's. What are you wanting your operators

Re: VM operator console?

2008-10-07 Thread Kris Buelens
National Institutes of Health Bethesda, MD 20892-5628 301-594-7474 -Original Message- From: Gentry, Stephen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:33 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM operator console? I would recommend not using the HMC

Re: VM operator console?

2008-10-07 Thread Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E]
Technology National Institutes of Health Bethesda, MD 20892-5628 301-594-7474 From: Scott Rohling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:57 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM operator console? I'm not sure I would rely on telnet

Re: VM operator console?

2008-10-07 Thread Quay, Jonathan (IHG)
for Information Technology National Institutes of Health Bethesda, MD 20892-5628 301-594-7474 From: Scott Rohling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:57 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM operator console? I'm not sure I

Re: VM operator console?

2008-10-07 Thread David Boyes
Trouble with a 'real' console is the need to be a locally attached 3270 device. I understand that to mean a 3174 or similar device. We don't have any. All our MVS consoles use the ICC OSA interface. If you've got an ICC, then define one of the logical devices on it to the VM LPAR and have it

Re: VM operator console?

2008-10-07 Thread Gentry, Stephen
is it? Gun, bullet, foot, something like that. Steve From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:57 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM operator console? I'm not sure I

Re: VM operator console?

2008-10-07 Thread Dave Jones
-5628 301-594-7474 -Original Message- From: Gentry, Stephen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:33 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM operator console? I would recommend not using the HMC as an operator console. There is a VM userid called OPERATOR

Re: VM operator console?

2008-10-07 Thread Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E]
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628 301-594-7474 From: David Boyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 11:18 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM operator console? Trouble with a 'real' console is the need to be a locally attached 3270 device. I

Re: VM operator console?

2008-10-07 Thread Dave Jones
, 2008 11:18 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM operator console? Trouble with a 'real' console is the need to be a locally attached 3270 device. I understand that to mean a 3174 or similar device. We don't have any. All our MVS consoles use the ICC OSA interface. If you've got an ICC

Re: VM operator console?

2008-10-07 Thread Bill Munson
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: VM operator console? Trouble with a ?real? console is the need to be a locally attached 3270 device. I understand that to mean a 3174 or similar device. We don?t have any. All our MVS consoles use the ICC OSA interface. Yeah the integrated

Re: VM operator console?

2008-10-07 Thread Huegel, Thomas
dresses up an otherwise 'unused' terminal. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:24 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM operator console? I know operations wants

Re: VM operator console?

2008-10-07 Thread Thomas Kern
For an MVS shop, that all things equal helps with operators. Using an I CC, we have a Master Console for each LPAR with alternative sessions for Terminal activity. For the IFL LPAR, we have OPERATOR logged on that Mast er Console running the Performance Toolkit program PERFKIT. With an minimum

Re: VM operator console?

2008-10-07 Thread David Boyes
For an MVS shop, that all things equal helps with operators. I think that's a universal...8-) we have OPERATOR logged on that Mast er Console running the Performance Toolkit program PERFKIT. With an minimum FCONX $PROFILE, you get a nice scrolling console with some (not great) logging of