Re: HMC security (was: zvm directions)

2011-06-02 Thread Philip Tully
My reason to start the zvm directions thread was to start people talkin g.

Re: HMC security (was: zvm directions)

2011-06-02 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 06/02/2011 at 08:30 EDT, Philip Tully tull...@optonline.net wrote: My reason to start the zvm directions thread was to start people talking. And that's a Good Thing, Phil. Having an awareness that the model of mainframe management begun in the 60s (and still in place today

Re: HMC security (was: zvm directions)

2011-06-02 Thread Tom Huegel
And the new soon to be launched 'Destination Z Community'. On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.comwrote: On Thursday, 06/02/2011 at 08:30 EDT, Philip Tully tull...@optonline.net wrote: My reason to start the zvm directions thread was to start people talking

Re: HMC security (was: zvm directions)

2011-06-01 Thread David Boyes
The Unified Resource Manager's Storage Administrator function includes the ability exporting the WWPN configuration and importing an access list based on it. (Sorry, I haven't personally used it, yet, so I can't comment further.) Yes, it can. It's pretty much useless. Trouble is, none of

Re: HMC security (was: zvm directions)

2011-06-01 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 06/01/2011 at 11:18 EDT, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrote: The Unified Resource Manager's Storage Administrator function includes the ability exporting the WWPN configuration and importing an access list based on it. (Sorry, I haven't personally used it, yet, so I

Re: HMC security (was: zvm directions)

2011-05-31 Thread Philip Tully
What David said! We have enough fights integrating business critical application on the Z with other infrastructure units. How many of us have heard while integrating a complex application one tin y piece doesn't have a support statement to run on s390x linux. Not even th at it doesn't work,

Re: HMC security (was: zvm directions)

2011-05-31 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 05/31/2011 at 11:03 EDT, Philip Tully tull...@optonline.net wrote: Or listening to our SAN provisioning group here that every other platform integrates well with their tools, whereas on the Z they need to actually type wwpn's. The Unified Resource Manager's Storage Administrator

Re: HMC security (was: zvm directions)

2011-05-27 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 05/26/2011 at 11:10 EDT, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrote: But it's certainly a common one. I can think of at least a dozen sites that have heard this requirement from IBMers. I've always thought the proper solution to this was to add a badge reader to the HMC to allow

Re: zvm directions

2011-05-26 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 5:06 AM, Philip Tully tull...@optonline.net wrote: With all do respect: Contacting our IBM rep under NDA does not fit public road map I think the customers are letting IBM know, that they are not ready to relinquish control of this asset.  It may not be the story IBM

Re: zvm directions

2011-05-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 05/25/2011 at 11:07 EDT, Philip Tully tull...@optonline.net wrote: With all do respect: Contacting our IBM rep under NDA does not fit publc road map. I'm not trying to be contrary or anything, Phil, just practical. If your or anyone else feels they need more information about

Re: HMC security (was: zvm directions)

2011-05-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 05/26/2011 at 03:12 EDT, Rob van der Heij rvdh...@gmail.com wrote: Neither may be parts of IBM. At least two installations told me that IBM requires that the original HMC user/pw combinations remain in place for the (different) IBM support person to be able to support them. I

Re: HMC security (was: zvm directions)

2011-05-26 Thread David Boyes
The bogosity index is extremeloy high on this one. But it's certainly a common one. I can think of at least a dozen sites that have heard this requirement from IBMers. I've always thought the proper solution to this was to add a badge reader to the HMC to allow IBMers to enable these ids

Re: zvm directions

2011-05-25 Thread PHILIP TULLY
Thanks for the reply's as soon as I sent that I was swamped and couldn't really reply. I have thrown my hat toward share, thanks for the suggestion. Some good points, 10G is def the way we are going but with the number of lpars being thrust on us by the severe memory limitations we are

Re: zvm directions

2011-05-25 Thread Philip Tully
With all do respect: Contacting our IBM rep under NDA does not fit publ ic road map I think the customers are letting IBM know, that they are not ready to relinquish control of this asset. It may not be the story IBM mgmt wants to hear but it is the one that is being told. I may no longer

Antwort: Re: zvm directions

2011-05-19 Thread William . Mongan
z/VM directions, an interesting subject that we also discussed at the Technical University in Vienna, where I also got the tip to join this list. As a long time z/VM user my main concern is NOT exploiting new areas and new technologies, it is rather exploiting existing or new hardware functions

zvm directions

2011-05-18 Thread PHILIP TULLY
I see that the list traffic is kind of light right now and though I would toss out a topic for all of us to chew on. I am looking for your thoughts on the current direction of zVM in particular where development needs to be focused. I sense that z/VM 6.2 with SSI will ease the burden of

Re: zvm directions

2011-05-18 Thread Martin Zimelis
Phil, Have you considered getting involved with the Linux VM Program (LVM) at SHARE? In particular, the LVM Technical Steering Committee has been working with IBM on this sort of topic for a number of years. I know they're always looking for interested members from the user community.

Re: zvm directions

2011-05-18 Thread Marcy Cortes
: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:31 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] zvm directions I see that the list traffic is kind of light right now and though I would toss out a topic for all of us to chew on. I am looking for your thoughts on the current direction of zVM in particular where development

Re: zvm directions

2011-05-18 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 05/18/2011 at 11:33 EDT, PHILIP TULLY tull...@optonline.net wrote: I sense that z/VM 6.2 with SSI will ease the burden of medium to large shops in the area of multi-system maintenance, and hopefully will be extended beyond it's current meager 4 system max size, sooner rather

Re: zvm directions

2011-05-18 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 05/18/2011 at 12:07 EDT, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote: I don't see LGR as a load balancing solution at all. We will continue to use our F5 load balancers as well as the WAS IHS plugin for that effort. I see it more for a planned outage move for things

Re: zvm directions

2011-05-18 Thread Schuh, Richard
: Re: zvm directions On Wednesday, 05/18/2011 at 12:07 EDT, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote: I don't see LGR as a load balancing solution at all. We will continue to use our F5 load balancers as well as the WAS IHS plugin for that effort. I see it more

Re: zvm directions

2011-05-18 Thread Marcy Cortes
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 11:28 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] zvm directions On Wednesday, 05/18/2011 at 12:07 EDT, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor

Re: zvm directions

2011-05-18 Thread Marcy Cortes
Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 11:35 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] zvm directions Too bad it will not work for geographically dispersed LPARS :-( Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message

Re: zvm directions

2011-05-18 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 05/18/2011 at 02:46 EDT, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote: Depends on how far, right? You have to share DASD so PPRC distances apply. You probably need the same subnet so you need a consultation with your network folks. But should be doable if you do those

Re: zvm directions

2011-05-18 Thread Austin, Alyce (CIV)
Has z/VM 6.2 been released? Regards, Alyce -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of PHILIP TULLY Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:31 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: zvm directions I see that the list traffic is kind

Re: zvm directions

2011-05-18 Thread Dave Jones
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: zvm directions I see that the list traffic is kind of light right now and though I would toss out a topic for all of us to chew on. I am looking for your thoughts on the current direction of zVM in particular where development needs to be focused. I sense that z/VM 6.2

Re: zvm directions

2011-05-18 Thread Marcy Cortes
(CIV) Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:33 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] zvm directions Has z/VM 6.2 been released? Regards, Alyce -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of PHILIP TULLY Sent: Wednesday, May

Re: zvm directions

2011-05-18 Thread Richard Troth
Wow ... so many possible directions *this* thread could go. For fifty years, the platform now known as z has been all about scalability. For more than forty years, the environment we call z/VM has been all about resource sharing. Multi-system maint is something most people in the industry