Re: [IceHorses] Happy Holidays!

2007-12-03 Thread Bernadette
Oh Judy, that's so cute! Thank you. Bernadette

[IceHorses] Landslides

2007-12-03 Thread Judy Ryder
Fires and Landslides! Ohmigosh! I had no idea that some of our members were affected (and dis-homed) by the landslides in Washington due to the heavy rains that the west coast had this past weekend. Our area has been re-seeding with a vengence since the fires in expectation of the rains. The

Re: [IceHorses] snow, house, ponies

2007-12-03 Thread Judy Ryder
> Judy, here is last years storm... Oh, thanks! I can make something good from that house picture! Mic, can you make one? Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] snow, house, ponies

2007-12-03 Thread Debbie K.
http://picasaweb.google.com/dakota.charm/WinterStorm07?authkey=CxF00z41i9M Judy, here is last years storm... we just had one, maybe this weekend I can get some more pictures... -- I and my horses love our track system, take a look~~~ http://picasaweb.google.com/dakota.charm/TrackForHorses

Re: [IceHorses] FW: red saddle

2007-12-03 Thread Raven
your horse is beautiful! and your saddle is cute. <;] i have a friend who loves red, she would like that saddle. raven

[IceHorses] Re: Side saddle

2007-12-03 Thread blessiowner
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Nancy Sturm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank you Pamela. I'd appreciated that. > > I'm confused. I thought Gaited Horse quit publishing. Was it a different > magazine? Hello Nancy, They have quite publishing. However, some stores still have some copies

Re: [IceHorses] OT - trail class

2007-12-03 Thread Raven
That looks like a blast!! I would love to set up a Trail Trials (different from trail class) course in MN/WI...but it would require so many volunteers. Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze Respect ALL Ea

Re: [IceHorses] adobe photoshop

2007-12-03 Thread Judy Ryder
> does anyone know how in photoshop to take the head off something and > put it on someone elses body? Janice, did you get it done? If not, maybe I can help. Ready? Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] white hairs on back

2007-12-03 Thread pyramid
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 09:29:53PM -0500, Karen Thomas wrote: > And, btw, we shouldn't "stand in the stirrups" when we post to the trot. In > my riding lessons over the years, I've had to spend certain amounts of time > posting and two-pointing without stirrups. My daughter's instructor had he

Re: [IceHorses] white hairs on back

2007-12-03 Thread pyramid
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 05:22:35PM -0600, Janice McDonald wrote: > all I can think of is if it was caused by the stirrups being free, > maybe from standing in the stirrups for stuff? posting or jumping or > something?? very likely, as i both post to the trot and jump, and try to keep my weight do

Re: [IceHorses] Pictures of Horses Moving

2007-12-03 Thread Judy Ryder
> Now I need some pictures of our horses moving, taken > from the side, relatively clear pictures where you can > see their whole body and feet. Anyone have any more pictures of their horses running (trot, gait, or canter) in pasture, taken from the side? (Mic, I have the one of the young pin

[IceHorses] Cherie - opossum

2007-12-03 Thread Mary
Cherie~ I think she's about 5 - 6 months. I am feeding her according to the national society diet. She has started nipping. Still very sweet, but Floyd never even hited at a nip...Bindi is getting to the point where we have to use thick gloves...she didn't start this way. Your email gives me

[IceHorses] OT - trail class

2007-12-03 Thread Mary
No icelandics, but looks SO FUN! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFST-2Yngls Mary Dudley, LVT "Just Dream It" Fandango Ranch

RE: [IceHorses] Iceland

2007-12-03 Thread Karen Thomas
it's the only country that I know of ..that has these huge tv and radio ads where they tell you it's "one big party" and show tons of drinking in the ads. They heavily promote that aspect of the country. I thought it really odd that's what their Olympic opening ceremony blurb was about - aft

Re: [IceHorses] snow, house, ponies

2007-12-03 Thread Judy Ryder
> Judy, if there's anything suitable on my web site you're welcome to > use it. OK, thanks! Hopefully, I'll get a chance to work on this project tonight or tomorrow. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] 1st time to scrub in

2007-12-03 Thread Judy Ryder
> This is my daughter, Annie, scrubbing in for the first time on major Congrats, Annie and Laree! >>They did 3 chryptorchid surgeries that day Gosh, I wish some of these places would video these surgeries! Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Side saddle

2007-12-03 Thread Nancy Sturm
Thank you Pamela. I'd appreciated that. I'm confused. I thought Gaited Horse quit publishing. Was it a different magazine? Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] treeless no name saddle

2007-12-03 Thread Lorraine
> I saw a number of all leather treeless saddles for > sale on ebay today asking only 155.00 and they are > 18" seats so I think they would be equal to a 16 in > western, would fit most people, just thought I would > mention it since the holidays are close and very > inexpensive way to try one so

RE: [IceHorses] white hairs on back

2007-12-03 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> all I can think of is if it was caused by the stirrups being free, maybe >>> from standing in the stirrups for stuff? posting or jumping or something?? Cary and I both ride with the free-hanging stirrups, and Cary weighs over 235. And, btw, we shouldn't "stand in the stirrups" when we p

Re: [IceHorses] 1st time to scrub in

2007-12-03 Thread Nancy Sturm
Wow! You have every right to be very proud of her. Nancy

[IceHorses] Re: Side saddle

2007-12-03 Thread blessiowner
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Nancy Sturm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does anyone know about side saddles? >> There is a good article in the last edition of Gaited Horse magazine about side saddles. The article seems to indicate that the modern sidesaddles provide a lot of balance. I

[IceHorses] treeless no name saddle

2007-12-03 Thread Jeannette Hoenig
I saw a number of all leather treeless saddles for sale on ebay today asking only 155.00 and they are 18" seats so I think they would be equal to a 16 in western, would fit most people, just thought I would mention it since the holidays are close and very inexpensive way to try one so if they di

Re: [IceHorses] white hairs on back

2007-12-03 Thread Janice McDonald
On 12/3/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> gosh are you sure the sensation did it Vicka?? It takes a long long time > >>> for the white to show up! and when it does it usually sheds out and then > >>> if still using the bad saddle will come back. I just find it hard to > >>> be

Re: [IceHorses] white hairs on back

2007-12-03 Thread pyramid
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 05:17:29PM -0600, Wanda Lauscher wrote: > Vicka? Do you have some pics of Stjarni's white hairs? i don't think so, and my camera (and my winter gloves and insulated paddock boots) are currently among the missing :/ but kaaren, did i send maybe you any pix at the time?? -

Re: [IceHorses] white hairs on back

2007-12-03 Thread pyramid
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 06:05:31PM -0500, Karen Thomas wrote: > I find it very hard to believe that a Sensation, used for just two months > prior to a coat change would be the culprit, especially for a 100-ish pound > rider. i think it was more like six months, and the shape of the white hairs

Re: [IceHorses] Iceland

2007-12-03 Thread Raven
>> Somewhere I also read that Iceland has an extremely high per capita consumption of alcohol...so that may explain part of the "happiness." must be all the darkness in the winter. it's the only country that i know of ..that has these huge tv and radio ads where they tell you it's "one big party

Re: [IceHorses] 1st time to scrub in

2007-12-03 Thread Janice McDonald
that is so awesome Laree! a vet in the family! almost as cool as a plastic surgeon haha. maybe she can save you some bucks:) Janice -- yipie tie yie yo

Re: [IceHorses] Iceland

2007-12-03 Thread pyramid
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 04:10:36PM -0500, Susan McKenney wrote: > When I went on a trek in July maybe 8 years ago the hardest things for > me were not being able to sleep when the sun was still up at midnight, > riding in 40 mph sustained winds some days, and lack of privacy on the > trail because

RE: [IceHorses] 1st time to scrub in

2007-12-03 Thread Cherie Mascis
>This is my daughter, Annie, scrubbing in for the first time on major >equine surgery at vet school. Laree Hurray for Annie. Her first major surgery at school and she gets to close! I'm jealous! She's going to be a great vet. Tell her I was at the Nature Center today working with the wolves and

RE: [IceHorses] Got my horse back!!

2007-12-03 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> I say give the horse the benefit of the doubt - still ask for what you want but if you keep getting the behavior keep looking - try something different (which is what you did in terms of changing feed); if you keep looking you will generally find it. Absolutely. Karen Karen Thomas Wingate,

RE: [IceHorses] 1st time to scrub in

2007-12-03 Thread Karen Thomas
This is my daughter, Annie, scrubbing in for the first time on major equine surgery at vet school. How exciting! Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.13/1165 - Release Date: 12/2/20

RE: [IceHorses] white hairs on back

2007-12-03 Thread Karen Thomas
Hreggur's back muscles were terribly atrophied when he arrived hereand he didn't have one white hair. So there are many things that can do damage to a back. I see that we sent our posts in with the same thoughts, about the same time...but thinking about different horses.

RE: [IceHorses] Re: white hairs on back

2007-12-03 Thread Karen Thomas
My other palomino Icey, has no white areas whatsoever & complained with every saddle until the Sensation/equine chiro found some issues with some of the saddles which we immediately stopped using..go figure. My two main riding horses over the years have both been palominos. I honestly don

Re: [IceHorses] white hairs on back

2007-12-03 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 03/12/2007, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I certainly wouldn't condemn a saddle if a few white hairs show up, > especially if there's no pain...but I also wouldn't count on the absence of > white hairs to "prove" that all is well. True. Hreggur's back muscles were terribly atroph

RE: [IceHorses] white hairs on back

2007-12-03 Thread Karen Thomas
I know first-hand that saddle-induced white hairs can take YEARS to grow in. Many times the damage is cumulative...and of course, there are times when the white hairs are totally not related, as I mentioned earlier. I find it very hard to believe that a Sensation, used fo

Re: [IceHorses] white hairs on back

2007-12-03 Thread Wanda Lauscher
I'd like to see some pics of white hairs on backs that people think are caused by saddles. Does anyone have pics of this? Vicka? Do you have some pics of Stjarni's white hairs? Wanda

RE: [IceHorses] white hairs on back

2007-12-03 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> gosh are you sure the sensation did it Vicka?? It takes a long long time >>> for the white to show up! and when it does it usually sheds out and then >>> if still using the bad saddle will come back. I just find it hard to >>> believe a sensation could produce such severe nerve damage.

RE: [IceHorses] Iceland

2007-12-03 Thread Karen Thomas
When I went on a trek in July maybe 8 years ago the hardest things for me were not being able to sleep when the sun was still up at midnight, riding in 40 mph sustained winds some days, and lack of privacy on the trail because there weren't any trees to relieve oneself behind. Yet I met some

Re: [IceHorses] Re: white hairs on back

2007-12-03 Thread pyramid
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 12:16:14PM -0800, Kaaren Jordan wrote: > Since I'm Vicka's Sensation dealer, I'm sure she won't mind me sharing that > she rode her guy in "free swing" mostly as did her students & that she used > a standard Skito pad in a higher use situation teaching as well as some > jum

Re: [IceHorses] 1st time to scrub in

2007-12-03 Thread Raven
How proud you must be! Raven Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.

Re: [IceHorses] Iceland

2007-12-03 Thread Susan McKenney
> > They sure didn't ask ME to vote, LOL! Any country that has 23 daily hours > of daylight one season, then 23 daily hours of darkness another, and can > have snow in July is NOT going to make my top 10 list! Gee, I get an > attack of Seasonal Affective Disorder just thinking about it! > When I

RE: [IceHorses] Resistance

2007-12-03 Thread Judy Ryder
> there is always a reason for resistance - it is just > a matter of finding it. Thanks, Robyn, for this input. I'm so happy that we, as a group, are of the mind to listen to the horse and not push, push, push a request, and overlook a behavior. >>>I believe that horses are incredibly generou

[IceHorses] Intermittent Yahoo Site Issues

2007-12-03 Thread Judy Ryder
We are aware that the Yahoo! Groups site was intermittently unavailable for a few hours on Saturday morning and again for approximately one hour this morning. As a result of this downtime, some accounts have been temporarily disabled by being put into auto-responder status. We are currently wor

[IceHorses] Re: Shims and Inserts

2007-12-03 Thread Kaaren Jordan
Yes, Janice this is true. I don't recommend treeless saddles for horses with a prominent spine no matter what the padding. Dana is very clear in educating dealers that the Sensation is NOT for horses with prominent spines/"A" frame builds/high whithers/long whithers or for riders over 200 lbs & i

[IceHorses] Re: white hairs on back

2007-12-03 Thread Kaaren Jordan
Since I'm Vicka's Sensation dealer, I'm sure she won't mind me sharing that she rode her guy in "free swing" mostly as did her students & that she used a standard Skito pad in a higher use situation teaching as well as some jumping on her own. For higher use situations Dana rec. using a Skito Dry

Re: [IceHorses] books again

2007-12-03 Thread Laree Shulman
> I just finished it - loved it! Thanks. Thanks to those of you (Mic and Trish) for recommending Sherri Tepper - I just finished Beauty and it was great. > BTW, I crossed a really big hurdle on Saturday - I rode Skessa on our > Christmas ride, with 22 other Icelandics. Sounds exciting, Mic - g

[IceHorses] champagne/cremello

2007-12-03 Thread Jeannette Hoenig
It seems as though the cremello shares similar characteristics to champagnes, and the draft pic I sent he has light green eyes, freckled muzzle and his boy parts too which he tends to show off more than I like. He is a light cream and I know I have seen some dark creams that I would call champag

[IceHorses] big red saddle

2007-12-03 Thread Jeannette Hoenig
it is a Hilason 19in. saddle they clearanced on ebay for lots less than usual. Thanks for the compliment Janice and red looks really good on bays and buckskins, in case you are shopping for your dunn when he is ready to ride.

RE: [IceHorses] Got my horse back!!

2007-12-03 Thread Robyn Hood
Hi Susan >>>If grain/oats/feed other than hay makes your horse nuts, it's easy to just eliminate it and that part of the problem is solved. Glad you seem to have found a reason for Whisper's recent behaviour. IME there is always a reason for resistance - it is just a matter of finding it. It onl

Re: [IceHorses] books again

2007-12-03 Thread Mic Rushen
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 11:31:00 -0600, you wrote: >I am reading water for elephants. You guys didnt tell me it was so >horsey. Gosh I love it! I can hardly put it down! I just finished it - loved it! Thanks. BTW, I crossed a really big hurdle on Saturday - I rode Skessa on our Christmas ride, wit

[IceHorses] LOST BEAGLE - Anderson County/Lawerenceburg, KY

2007-12-03 Thread Raven
Just sharing this info. Please contact owner directly. NOT ME. THANKS! This little guy is lost. If you all know anyone who lives in L-burg and can help look for him, it would be appreciated. His family was here visiting and he got separated from them and they had to leave without him. They are sti

[IceHorses] Thermography Seminar

2007-12-03 Thread Judy Ryder
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 10:37 AM Subject: Thermography Seminar Hi Everyone! Just wanted to send a confirmation email to let everyone know that everything is all set for the Thermography Seminar on the 13th of December in Shelbyville, TN. Below is the information

[IceHorses] xmas gifts

2007-12-03 Thread Janice McDonald
I am wondering what to get my boys for christmas. I think I will get some safety orange polo wraps for Tivar, lavendar ones for Fox, get my daughter to crochet a big cooler for Jas and a little one for curly ray, and get a big bucket of carrot flavored treats for Nas and Traveller. Then STonewall

Re: [IceHorses] white hairs on back

2007-12-03 Thread pyramid
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 11:22:25AM -0600, Janice McDonald wrote: > gosh are you sure the sensation did it Vicka?? yes. he was ridden in treed saddles for eight years, then after the next coat change after i got the sensation, the white hairs appeared. talking with my dealer, the white hairs are

[IceHorses] twh for sale

2007-12-03 Thread Janice McDonald
registered 5 year old twhbea mare for sale, bright chestnut, ground trained to death, obstacles, some driving, ridden a couple of times but owner is green and afraid to take her out for a real spin even tho she seems just dead calm to me. He paid 2800 two years ago and says he will let her go for

[IceHorses] books again

2007-12-03 Thread Janice McDonald
I am reading water for elephants. You guys didnt tell me it was so horsey. Gosh I love it! I can hardly put it down! Janice -- yipie tie yie yo

Re: [IceHorses] FW: big red saddle

2007-12-03 Thread Janice McDonald
what could be cooler than a red white and blue horse :) Needs to be in a veterans day parade! Janice -- yipie tie yie yo

Re: [IceHorses] jumping with the clicker

2007-12-03 Thread Janice McDonald
oh man, the pitfalls in this are mindboggling for me! Would be my luck to click accidentally just as he did a balk! took me two years to unclicker train stonewall from turning to face me with a cheery expression just as I would attempt to swing a leg over to mount. Then I trained him to "count" (

Re: [IceHorses] white hairs on back

2007-12-03 Thread Janice McDonald
> *nod* that is how i feel about my previous experience with the > sensation. i still rub vit e cream on stjarni's back in the hopes that > the white hairs will fade > > i *am* trying another sensation, but this one with shorter flaps so i > can use the other stirrup rigging method. gosh

Re: [IceHorses] Savvy Club DVD's on Ebay!

2007-12-03 Thread Janice McDonald
well heck,. removed already. someone musta did buy it now? thanks for the heads up tho judy. Janice-- yipie tie yie yo

Re: [IceHorses] FW: red saddle

2007-12-03 Thread Lorraine
> > > > > > I finally got around to getting this red saddle sent > out, it is on my cremello draft horse, and I do use > it on the icelandics but I am still breaking it in, > the flaps that attach to the stirrups are rather > thick and hard to get used to in my opinion, I might > take them off

Re: [IceHorses] not in the mood for mud

2007-12-03 Thread Lorraine
> >> a lake. but he was biting at my feet saying knock > it off :) > Janice > -- He is a smart little guy Lorraine Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http:

[IceHorses] Savvy Club DVD's on Ebay!

2007-12-03 Thread Judy Ryder
By Daniella: Item #230197633812 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230197633812&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm37%26satitle%3D230197633812%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1 This DVD includes Linda playing with a very RB'ed Or

[IceHorses] jaspar's home town

2007-12-03 Thread Janice McDonald
this is where my Jaspar and Fox are from :) http://www.twoeggfla.com/ Janice -- yipie tie yie yo

[IceHorses] nooo posts

2007-12-03 Thread Janice McDonald
i got no posts coming in and now when i try to go to yahoo my compter says I have no accesss yi janice -- yipie tie yie yo

Re: [IceHorses] Can You Turn Your Horse Without the Reins

2007-12-03 Thread Janice McDonald
sometimes on a lazy ride and i am lulled by the heat or i am tired, whatever, I would just press my fingertips on one side of jaspars withers without even moving my hand and he would turn. Also I could ride him anywhere and never use my hands. Tivar and Stonewall are good with using feet and leg

Re: [IceHorses] Re:Shims and Inserts

2007-12-03 Thread Janice McDonald
On 12/2/07, Kaaren Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In treeless saddles, the padding systems can be thought of as an integral > part of the saddle. It creates the spine channel width & depth for the > horses comfort. a problem if you need spine clearance is if the saddle or saddle pad shif

Re: [IceHorses] white hairs on back

2007-12-03 Thread pyramid
On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 06:23:24PM -0800, Nancy Sturm wrote: > And a friend's endurance horse has nasty white patches on either side of his > spine, just behind the withers. I know we all make mistakes and I surely > have made my share, but I really would feel awful if I were using tack > that

Re: [IceHorses] snow, house, ponies

2007-12-03 Thread susan cooper
--- Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We don't get much snow in Southern Oregon, so when > it does snow, the cameras > come out.<< Pretty! What is the waterfall for? I stayed in yesterday and decorated for Christmas as we were expecting high winds. We never got the winds and I coul

RE: [IceHorses] jumping with the clicker

2007-12-03 Thread Cherie Mascis
I can just picture the look on Kolur's face! Cherie

Re: [IceHorses] his dun=ness

2007-12-03 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Dec 2, 2007 4:35 PM, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > here is nos in all his glorious dun=ness > janice > Aww! His color reminds me of Orri. V NB Canada

Re: [IceHorses] My new mule

2007-12-03 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Dec 1, 2007 9:36 PM, Bia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > well she's here! Hazel, my big beautiful black molly mule. Wow! She's a beauty! V NB Canada

Re: [IceHorses] House in the snow

2007-12-03 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Dec 2, 2007 9:40 PM, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We do get snow in central NC - but not too often. Beautiful!! We had a lot of snow over the weekend and the forecast is more to come. V NB Canada

Re: [IceHorses] snow, house, ponies

2007-12-03 Thread Nancy Sturm
I don't have any running photos. Every time they really put on a good show, the camera is somewhere else. We turned Tosca out with Lina (her Icelandic friend) and Lina's two Morgan buddies. It didn't go well and the next day, Tosca got moved to another pasture, but she ran the Kentucky Derby t

Re: [IceHorses] jumping with the clicker

2007-12-03 Thread Nancy Sturm
That's a pretty funny image. And it would be a nice winter project, teaching your Icey to fall. I bought a wonderful Welsh gelding a few years ago from a woman who really did a nice job of handling ponies. When I went to look at him, she demonstrated his jumping ability by "trotting" over a smal

Re: [IceHorses] snow, house, ponies

2007-12-03 Thread Mic Rushen
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 20:18:20 -0800, you wrote: >Got any pictures of your Icelandics running? (doesn't have to be in snow, >just clear pictures from the side). Judy, if there's anything suitable on my web site you're welcome to use it. Mic (just recovered from computer virus and catching up with

Re: [IceHorses] Side saddle

2007-12-03 Thread Mic Rushen
>side. Do you suppose a side saddle would be safe for a disabled rider? > There's an amazing article in this month's Eidfaxi about a one legged teenager who rides Icelandics, but he rides "astride" in a normal saddle. The old-style Icelandic sidesaddle was exactly like a seat, with a platform for

RE: [IceHorses] jumping with the clicker

2007-12-03 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> I wanted to come up with something new so I decided to click them for jumping; thought they might find that fun. But I wasn't sure how to drive them over that low jump the first few times. So I first jumped over myself and clicked while they watched. Kolur picked it up pretty quickly when I