Re: [IceHorses] Books again...and Parelli

2007-12-07 Thread Mic Rushen
On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:49:44 -0500, you wrote: Oooh, I envy you, just starting out on your Tepper journey! I just finished her latest, The Margarets - fantastic. Have you read it yet, Mic? Yes, ages ago. Wish she would write quicker! ; ) Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen

Re: [IceHorses] OT--Glass Toilets

2007-12-07 Thread Mic Rushen
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 18:37:16 -0500, you wrote: I thought you belonged to the church of Tom Jones. Surely you know that Tom Jones is the Welsh aspect of Zeus? Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen ---

RE: [IceHorses] Angie - one week anniversary

2007-12-07 Thread Karen Thomas
I'm a big believer of giving horses a lot of time to settle in. I think I did too much too soon with Gloi and pushed it too much and it made us lose ground. He needed more time to settle in and learn to trust me. Moving here along with the other changes in his life in the year before he

RE: [IceHorses] OT--Glass Toilets

2007-12-07 Thread Karen Thomas
Surely you know that Tom Jones is the Welsh aspect of Zeus? Well, I guess I do now, since you and Janice straightened me out... :) Isn't it just hysterical that the subject line hasn't changed throughout this? Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free

Re: [IceHorses] last weekend

2007-12-07 Thread Mic Rushen
What exactly is mulled wine? Red wine, warm, mixed with spices like cinnamon, nutmeg, ginger and cloves, with some orange juice, slices of lemon etc. Very nice and warming on a cold day. and several nips from a hip flask full of something disgusting. I won't ask what that was... No

Re: [IceHorses] Kudos from Gaited Horse Magazine for Judy Ryder

2007-12-07 Thread Nancy Sturm
Yes! Judy and the support she offers has done more for helping me to play catch up on Icelandics and other gaited horses than any other venue. Judy instructs, opens interesting topics that cause us to think, puts up with a lot of OT (and often entertaining) posts and supports the community as no

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Side saddle

2007-12-07 Thread Nancy Sturm
Thanks, Pamela. That's very helpful. Our adult daughter uses Suitability patterns. She has made a hunt coat and also breeeches for her growing teenage son. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] last weekend

2007-12-07 Thread Nancy Sturm
I've been meaning to ask - one horse in that great video of lots of Icelandics out together made me think of an Arab. Was there a little grey Arab stuck in the back somewhere? Nancy IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses The greatest enemy of the truth very

RE: [IceHorses] Kudos from Gaited Horse Magazine for Judy Ryder

2007-12-07 Thread Robyn Hood
Hi Yes, Ditto Nancy and Pamela - and thanks for bringing it up. The amount of work that Judy does on her lists and website is incredible. The internet has certainly shrunk the world. Robyn Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com

RE: [IceHorses] Angie - one week anniversary

2007-12-07 Thread Karen Thomas
He has been so nervous and jumpy that the mares can barely get food or rest because he's just not a very good herd stallion. It made me think about Falki. Maybe he's not 'drunk with power', but just not sure how to be a good leader. There was a little difference in the dynamics between

RE: [IceHorses] Re: Horse in need

2007-12-07 Thread Karen Thomas
Yes. I have an equine chiropractor with training in other soft tissue treatment work on him. He was so tight the first visit he kicked in pain at first and was like putty in the man's hands when he was finished. I also have an equine rolpher/energy worker seeing him on a routine basis. It may

Re: [IceHorses] last weekend

2007-12-07 Thread Mic Rushen
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 18:23:42 -0800, you wrote: Good job, Mic!! (on the ride, and on the video, and uploading it!) I didn't take it or upload it, as I said, I was on a horse (and at that particular moment far too nervous to even think about letting go the reins! ; )) It got better - after a swig

Re: [IceHorses] Difference in Training

2007-12-07 Thread Judy Ryder
she says every Icelandic trainer is different in their approach to the horses and to problem solving and training issues. Just like the trainers here differ... While I think that may be true, I think it may not mean the same when the bigger picture is looked at. For instance, from my place,

RE: [IceHorses] last weekend

2007-12-07 Thread Karen Thomas
It got better - after a swig of vodka, two large glasses of mulled wine What exactly is mulled wine? and several nips from a hip flask full of something disgusting. I won't ask what that was... Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition.

RE: [IceHorses] Kudos from Gaited Horse Magazine for Judy Ryder

2007-12-07 Thread Karen Thomas
Judy instructs, opens interesting topics that cause us to think, puts up with a lot of OT (and often entertaining) posts and supports the community as no one us does. Isn't that just the best? I was trying to explain that to someone recently. It's so nice to be able to chit-chat sometimes,

Re: [IceHorses] OT--Glass Toilets

2007-12-07 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Dec 7, 2007 6:46 AM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't it just hysterical that the subject line hasn't changed throughout this? Yeah, the original topic went down the toilet. :D V

Re: [IceHorses] last weekend

2007-12-07 Thread Mic Rushen
On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 05:01:46 -0800, you wrote: Was there a little grey Arab stuck in the back somewhere? Well spotted!!! Yes, there was, a guy called Kappi who lives next door to a farm full of Icelandics and who used to belong to one of the people who now is thoroughly corrupted and only has

RE: [IceHorses] Re: What Are They Applauding / Open Mouths

2007-12-07 Thread Robyn Hood
Hi Judy, When the horse ventroflexes, if too much, he can have kissing spines. That would hurt. Interesting thought. I know lots of non gaited horses with kissing spine but don't actually know of any gaited horses with it.Kissing spine has also become a rather broad diagnosis (the way

RE: [IceHorses] last weekend

2007-12-07 Thread Robyn Hood
Hi Karen, What exactly is mulled wine? Mulled wine is like gluvine _don't know how to spell it - a warm spiced wine often served at après ski or at Christmas. Tastes yummy but you must take care because warming it up seems to hit the blood stream much more quickly. I don't drink much and a glass

[IceHorses] Quotes

2007-12-07 Thread Judy Ryder
Do not become paralyzed and enchained by the set patterns which have been woven of old. No, build from your own youthful feeling, your own groping thought and your own flowering perception--and help to further that beauty which has grown from the roots of tradition. --Lotte Lehman Tradition

Re: [IceHorses] OT - SPAM

2007-12-07 Thread Judy Ryder
An additional question: it's not addressed to me, it's addressed to a gazillion other names and from dozens of different names - perhaps why I can't block it? Nancy, try using the yahoo mail (do you have a yahoo ID already?). Their spam filter is very very good! Judy

[IceHorses] Horse Husbands by Harold Roy Miller

2007-12-07 Thread Judy Ryder
Horse Husbands by Harold Roy Miller To all you horse husbands who have equine-loving wives whose horses are the centers of your darling's daily lives, I sympathize with you men. I know exactly how you feel, because I also have to endure this exasperating ordeal. You probably are the guy who

Re: [IceHorses] Not using your legs on a horse... ???

2007-12-07 Thread Lorraine
Anybody ever ride a cutting horse? Yes. I use to own one. Lorraine Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

[IceHorses] Pet Toys Could Pose Lead Danger

2007-12-07 Thread Raven
Pet Toys Could Pose Lead Danger WOW...pretty scary!!! Also in pet food dishes http://tinyurl.com/2an738 IMHO...stay away from anything made in China. Way too scary. Raven Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze

Re: [IceHorses] Christmas gift idea

2007-12-07 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 07/12/2007, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I mentioned a while back that I got a iPod (with tiny video screen) for my birthday a while back. Oh boy, Kevin got one the other day. He's completely enthralled. He keeps talking about how much he can load on it. I'll have to

Re: [IceHorses] Horse Fighting / Icelandic Lullabies

2007-12-07 Thread Judy Ryder
These people were truly nasty. I don't understand that anyone could enjoy reading these sagas, they just glorify all that nastiness. Interesting article: http://www.icelandreview.com/icelandreview/daily_life/?cat_id=16568ew_0_a_id=295450 Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] OT - SPAM

2007-12-07 Thread Judy Ryder
I did try Yahoo mail when I had a dial up account. It was beyond slow. Can I assume on broadband it would be quicker? It should be. I use it and it's great for me. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] OT - SPAM

2007-12-07 Thread Nancy Sturm
Thanks. I did try Yahoo mail when I had a dial up account. It was beyond slow. Can I assume on broadband it would be quicker? Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] Not using your legs on a horse... ???

2007-12-07 Thread Nancy Sturm
I had a horse trainer friend who was training a horse, I think for the working cow horse class. Anyway, she needed to rent some calves and asked some of us if we wanted to go in with her. I put a western saddle on my hunter/jumper/dressage horse (an off track Jet Deck grandson). He actually was

Re: [IceHorses] Not using your legs on a horse... ???

2007-12-07 Thread Maggie
i've worked cattle on some fairly cowie horses-but not a high performace show cutting horse. when a good horse gets going-just hang on-it is like nothing you've ever felt. love working cattle on a good horse... Maggie the California cowgirl-i hope Solie likes cows:)

Re: [IceHorses] Christmas gift idea

2007-12-07 Thread Judy Ryder
one, but instead make them in 8G, 80G, and 160G sizes I think. Anyway, I've put probably 8 DVDs on mine, plus about 300 songs - and I've only used about 8G! It's amazing how many times I find that I have a spare 10-30 minutes to pull it out - driving somewhere with my husband on the

Re: [IceHorses] Difference in Training

2007-12-07 Thread Judy Ryder
many years, the only thing that has really mattered has been the gaits so the training method has come to concentrate on the gaits, redefining them so that the riders get the highest marks in competition. ie, so they have a clear beat, high action and speed from the horse. That is a

Re: [IceHorses] Difference in Training

2007-12-07 Thread Judy Ryder
of many different types of training: all the different natural type training such as John Lyons, Parelli, Clinton Anderson, etc., all the different western style training, all the different dressage, english, racing, team sports, gaited, etc. Have you gone and watched many of these

[IceHorses] Christmas gift idea

2007-12-07 Thread Karen Thomas
I think I mentioned a while back that I got a iPod (with tiny video screen) for my birthday a while back. I also got one of the DVD-to-iPod software conversion packages, and converted many of my equestrian DVDs to iPod format. My particular iPod has a 30G capacity - they no longer make that one,

RE: [IceHorses] Not using your legs on a horse... ???

2007-12-07 Thread Skye and Sally ~Fire Island
--- Robyn Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If any of you have ridden reining horses you will have experienced the most leg quick trigger than I have ever felt on a horse. Robyn Our friend bought very expensive well trained QH reining horses. Sally rode one once, and she is a good rider,

[IceHorses] Re: What Are They Applauding?!?!

2007-12-07 Thread Laura Khurana
So...why is it that I only hear it said within Icelandic circles that the dropped noseband is only for steadying the bit in the horse's mouth? I thought it was so that the bridle would stay on when I fell off ...:) Laura

RE: [IceHorses] Difference in Training

2007-12-07 Thread Robyn Hood
Hi Judy, For instance, from my place, in a 50 mile radius, I would have the choice of many different types of training: all the different natural type training such as John Lyons, Parelli, Clinton Anderson, etc., all the different western style training, all the different dressage, english,

Re: [IceHorses] Animal Flatulence contributes to Global Warming

2007-12-07 Thread Wanda Lauscher
Forget animal flatulenceI think the group I work for contributes considerably to greenhouse gases. Wanda

Re: [IceHorses] Animal Flatulence contributes to Global Warming

2007-12-07 Thread Anneliese Virro
On 12/6/07 11:55 PM, Skye and Sally ~Fire Island [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote So true. A study was done a few years back in California. They discovered that cows from the dairy and meat industry in Calif. contributed more to global warming than all the cars in the state. Meat and dairy used

Re: [IceHorses] Difference in Training

2007-12-07 Thread pyramid
On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 08:33:04AM -0800, Judy Ryder wrote: The icelandic-style training would be one color, and have variations, going to each side on the color line. Say icelandic-style training was the color green. The variations might bleed a little into blue or yellow, but basically

RE: [IceHorses] Not using your legs on a horse... ???

2007-12-07 Thread Lorraine
Now with some western trained horses, like barrel racers etc...well there is a lot of leg contact, a lot of go go go.kick kick kick. The girl I bought Scooter from use to barrel race him. I wonder if that is why he bolts sometimes. Lorraine

RE: [IceHorses] Not using your legs on a horse... ???

2007-12-07 Thread Robyn Hood
Hi Skye I know that of the Icelandics that we have, that were trained in Iceland, or by an Icelandic trainer, that while riding our leg is relaxed, yet we can give cues with our legs, for sidepass and such. We have always used legs on our Icelandics from Iceland but definitely there is a higher

RE: [IceHorses] Re: What Are They Applauding?!?!

2007-12-07 Thread Robyn Hood
Hi Laura, So...why is it that I only hear it said within Icelandic circles that the dropped noseband is only for steadying the bit in the horse's mouth? That is why WE use them. We don't use browbands or throatlatches on our and so we use dropped noseband BUT they are not tight - our horses can

RE: [IceHorses] Christmas gift idea

2007-12-07 Thread Karen Thomas
You're kidding?!?!? How great! How much are we talking for the iPod and the conversion software? The iPods with video cost about $199-299 at www.apple.com , depending on screen size and memory, and I think the DVD conversion software was about $30. I think Cary got my iPod at Sam's Club for

Re: [IceHorses] Difference in Training

2007-12-07 Thread Judy Ryder
However I was thinking that there is such a big difference between the Icelandic Farmer who breeds a little and trains his own horse for rounding up sheep or for pleasure, vs. the big farms like Feti that breed and train specifically for competition and for evauluations. The difference

[IceHorses] Going barefoot means change for horse and rider

2007-12-07 Thread Raven
Interesting article on barefooting http://www.farmersguardian.com/story.asp?sectioncode=51storycode=14999 Raven Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet.

Re: [IceHorses] Not using your legs on a horse... ???

2007-12-07 Thread Nancy Sturm
This horse got his breaks from arena work on the trail and I rode him places that would have challenged some other horses, the most memorable for me being over a suspension bridge. He never hesitated. He was a very nice good-minded horse, probably the most teachable and athletic animal I ever

Re: [IceHorses] Not using your legs on a horse... ???

2007-12-07 Thread Anna Hopkins
On Dec 7, 2007 9:03 PM, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I put a western saddle on my hunter/jumper/dressage horse (an off track Jet Deck grandson). I also owned an off the track Jet Deck grandson. He was a hunter jumper that I converted to a trail horse. We did some shows and I taught

Re: [IceHorses] Difference in Training

2007-12-07 Thread Skye and Sally ~Fire Island
The icelandic-style training would be one color, and have variations, going to each side on the color line. Say icelandic-style training was the color green. The variations might bleed a little into blue or yellow, but basically it stays about in the same area and doesn't reach a full rainbow

Re: [IceHorses] Not using your legs on a horse... ???

2007-12-07 Thread pyramid
On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 09:36:36AM -0800, Robyn Hood wrote: Now with some western trained horses, like barrel racers etc...well there is a lot of leg contact, a lot of go go go.kick kick kick. I have certainly seen people do this - get on and think they have to kick to get the horse to

Re: [IceHorses] Remington at Tejon Ranch 50, Photo #1

2007-12-07 Thread susan cooper
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out this photograph of Remington and me at the Tejon Ranch 50 Mile Endurance Ride the Saturday after Thanksgiving. I went and looked at all the photos because it was such a beautiful area!! Maybe he is becoming immortal. That would be nice! Maybe I will

Re: [IceHorses] Difference in Training

2007-12-07 Thread Mic Rushen
On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 08:33:04 -0800, you wrote: The icelandic-style training would be one color, and have variations, going to each side on the color line. It's a good analogy. I think you also have to take into account that in Iceland, there are only Icelandics. so you don't have

[IceHorses] Kudos from Gaited Horse Magazine for Judy Ryder

2007-12-07 Thread pippa258
We owe Judy a lot for hosting and driving this wonderful forum. Karen Thomas We sure do!! Trish

RE: [IceHorses] Difference in Training

2007-12-07 Thread Karen Thomas
It's a good analogy. I think you also have to take into account that in Iceland, there are only Icelandics. so you don't have Warmbloods for dressage, Arabs for endurance, QHs for reining, and all our other vast array of breeds. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. That's never

Re: [IceHorses] Kudos from Gaited Horse Magazine for Judy Ryder

2007-12-07 Thread Lorraine
We sure do!! Trish She has taught me alot Lorraine Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

Re: [IceHorses] Difference in Training

2007-12-07 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 07/12/2007, Mic Rushen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lately (in the past 50 years or so) Icelandic-style trainers have been cherry picking from lots of different methods, but many are still only really after training methods which will get better gaits. That said, there are many, many more

Re: [IceHorses] Not using your legs on a horse... ???

2007-12-07 Thread Nancy Sturm
Anybody ever ride a cutting horse? Nancy