Robyn,
The picture of your mother astride the vintage mare really struck a
cord for me. That photo, now framed, hangs on my wall and the walls
of several friends over 65 who also hope to be able to mount a horse
for another decade -- we could never hope to look so good in the
saddle as she at 93.
Here's a page from Liz's website where she discusses the "foxrack" and has
pictures.
http://www.lizgraves.com/SchoolofRack.pdf
It's interesting. . . I think I'm still inclined to call it simply a foxtrot
variation because the difference between the two gaits seems so
slight/insignificant (diagona
Thanks so much for the beautiful video, Judy. It brought tears to my eyes.
I know I sometimes forget to thank people and will try to be better about
it in the future!
Ferne
Liz Graves talk about Skjoni's fox rack:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YaEYC0nV4aA
I know Liz called what Skjoni was doing a foxrack, but I'm not so sure she
meant it as a distinct gait or a way of describing a few steps of
transition.I saw Skjoni alternating between a running walk and a
foxtrot
Thanks Steph. I missed a whole year or so of Ridecamp when John Teeter
decided not to struggle with AOL. I couldn't get it again until we finally
got broadband. Here in Oregon I see some folks shoeing just in front, but
I've ever heard of anyone shoeing only the rear. But I only know NW
On 2/17/08, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The only thing I can think of is that one individual endurance horse was
> wearing his hind feet more than his front. Otherwise, this is nothing I
> have ever heard of or read about. There will, however, be some sort of
> exception to everyt
I
> can not imagine not deworming and I can't see why
> some people don't
> rotate. Country Supply, Horse.Com, has a Premium
> deworming pack (six
> deworming tubes of three rotation) for only thirty
> some dollars.
Thanks for giving us all this reminder.
You can check with your vet to see
>> A carrier horse had come to the barn and infected the other horses
before we figured it out.
Doesn't the barn quarantine a new horse ??
>> Tater was humanely euthinized.
What a shame to loss a horse to worm overload. How sad. <;p[
Raven
Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies
Huginn & Dixie Chick, t
I don't remember if I ever sent this link to the list. Tifa, the bay, was
born about 12 hours before her half-sister, Kola. There's a little canter
at the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFviV0fXAuE
Karen Thomas, NC
Someone said that it's hard for Icelandic's to canter, but I don't agree. I
think it's hard sometimes for the very PACEY horses to canter, but most
Icelandics I know seem to canter just fine. Remember however, that none of
my Icelandic's have been trained to pace, nor were they trained from th
On Feb 17, 2008, at 3:39 PM, Janice McDonald wrote:
> a lot of people on here think you dont need to rotate buy hey, I'm
> with you, what could it hurt?? I worm mine every two months,
> rotating. I even worm my chickens and other fowl. I have to here, I
> am in a wormy part of the us...
> Janic
>A friend checked this out on Snopes. Apparently it IS true though
the
>aligator is only (only...ha) 13 to 14 feet long. I think I'm glad I
have
>cougars
>>Cougars? 'Gators? You North Americans just think you have ALL the
>>problems, don't you? Look what we have to put up with in Wales
>>> The only thing I can think of is that one individual endurance horse was
>>> wearing his hind feet more than his front. Otherwise, this is nothing I
>>> have ever heard of or read about. There will, however, be some sort of
>>> exception to everything.
Ok, I feel better if you didn't see
when nasi was a two year old and not gelded, a woman who owned a grade
quarter horse mare with such pigeon toes she has to have special shoes
just to walk, asked if she could breed her mare to him. ??!?!? I was
floored.
janice
>>> I'm glad Maggie is alright! That must have been so traumatic for
>>> everyone!
It was horrible for me, and I'm sure it was worse for her. Cary was out of
town that day (NOT a great Valentine's day for me...) but even he was pretty
shook up just hearing about it. He's been checking and
On 17/02/2008, JR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> mass of worms in his small intestine. When the owner was asked about
> deworming, she said that she had not dewormed him since he had come
> to our barn, about ten months ago.
That's a shame. I read once that about 99% of colics are due to a worm lo
>
> Well, I know one EX-stallion who certainly could... :)
Yes, I had the same thought about the stallion who sired the three Icelandic
mares we know. He's a nice gelding now, living not far from us although I
have never gone to see him. Every one of has said we'd buy him if he is
ever for s
>
>
> Why would endurance horses wear their back feet differently than other
> trail
> horses?
The only thing I can think of is that one individual endurance horse was
wearing his hind feet more than his front. Otherwise, this is nothing I
have ever heard of or read about. There will, howeve
I'm sorry the quality of the sound isn't better, but here you can hear Liz
Graves talk about Skjoni's fox rack: http://youtube.com/watch?v=YaEYC0nV4aA
As is typical of YouTube resolution, you may not be able to cleanly
freeze-frame it to see it phase by phase.
Karen Thomas, NC
a lot of people on here think you dont need to rotate buy hey, I'm
with you, what could it hurt?? I worm mine every two months,
rotating. I even worm my chickens and other fowl. I have to here, I
am in a wormy part of the us...
Janice
--
courage is being scared to death...and saddling up anyway
>>>Angela said that she was told that endurance horses may wear their back
>>>feet more than their front and that some compete with boots on the front
>>>and shoes on the back, so maybe that is the explanation, rather than that
>>>the racking or stepping pacing that these horses do is causing ex
At the barn I board my two horses, there was another outbreak of
Strangles. Three horses had come down with Strangles last year when
we vaccinated and several came down with it a month ago. Since we
always have horses coming and going, it is very important to keep our
horses up to date on eve
>>> The one common thing that I have seen is that effective trainers start
>>> their horses slowly. If you have the right horse, the speed is there.
>>> If you don't, then the horse needs a different job anyway. There are
>>> way more homes waiting for quiet well-trained saddle horses than the
I finally got a chance to look up this term in Lee Ziegler's book.
For anyone else who may be wanting more information, there is one
reference and explanation of the term on page 135. I found Lee's
passage about it quite helpful in understanding what the "foxrack" was
The best way to tell is to ride the candidate stallion yourself.
Or you could do what I did: buy the stallion, train him yourself with a
little help, stare at him at liberty in agonizing detail for two years, ride
him, take endless still pictures and videos of him under saddle and at
libe
I would like to see that a stallion can gait without mechanical aids.
No shoes, no boots, no saddle, no bit, no pulling on the mouth, no
rider leaning back. Do we have stallions in the breed that can do
that?
Well, I know one EX-stallion who certainly could... :)
I also
>
>
Angela said that she was told that
> endurance horses may wear their back feet more than their front and
> that some compete with boots on the front and shoes on the back, so
> maybe that is the explanation, rather than that the racking or
> stepping pacing that these horses do is causing ext
> http://iceryder.net/videogait3horses.html
Judy of the gaitedhorse list said:
"What caught my eye, was the statement that these horses wear rear
shoes because racking horses wear down their rear feet so fast. Now,
my fox trotters tend to wear their rear shoes faster than front
because of the
>>Do you think you can create a pictorial story of his training for us
> I would, but I'm not the one training him - he grew up with me, but
> belongs to a friend who is 5 hours drive away.
Darn!
I think we know how the icelandic-style training goes along, and we've had a
lot of articles, pict
> Yes, sometimes one is faced with selecting the lesser of two evils. It's
> not an easy decision to go against a horse's natural desires, but in the
> case of a horse that you KNOW will founder on the grass, it's the only
> humane choice IMO. I *could* try Rocky back on grass since he's on t
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:10:03 -0500, you wrote:
>why can't they artifically inseminate?
Cost - far more expensive than the local gypsy cob. And the nearest
Exmoor stallion is only 70 miles away!!!
Mic
Mic (Michelle) Rushen
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:02:10 -0800, you wrote:
>Do you think you can create a pictorial story of his training for us, as it
>goes
>along?
I would, but I'm not the one training him - he grew up with me, but
belongs to a friend who is 5 hours drive away. I'll certainly take
pics next time I see hi
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:50:10 -0800, you wrote:
>Wouldn't that horse be too big for an Exmoor mare?
This one is about 13.2hh - the mare is 12.1hh, so not too
unreasonable, I suppose.
Mic
Mic (Michelle) Rushen
-
On 17/02/2008, Mic Rushen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Cougars? 'Gators? You North Americans just think you have ALL the
> problems, don't you? Look what we have to put up with in Wales!
>
> Mic
I guess I forgot about our badgers...they eat ground squirrels for
breakfast..whether they're packi
On Feb 17, 2008, at 9:19 AM, Judy Ryder wrote:
>
>
>> I choose a stallion who, himself, has very good conformation.
>> I put evidence of athleticism on the stallion's part as a prime
>> requirement.
>> Another prime thing is disposition ... look for stallions that throw
>> "calmness"
>
> Good list
> No, not yet - when I told her she couldn't use ours, she said she
> thought the Exmoor stallion was too far away and said she would
> probably use a local piebald cob ("Irish Tinker") instead
> Mic
why can't they artifically inseminate?
> Yes, definitely. Here's a young stallion. He's just been started under
> saddle (no pix yet) and is really easy gaits-wise with a nice
> temperament.
Do you think you can create a pictorial story of his training for us, as it
goes
along?
Judy
http://iceryder.net
http://clickryder.com
> thought the Exmoor stallion was too far away and said she would
> probably use a local piebald cob ("Irish Tinker") instead
Wouldn't that horse be too big for an Exmoor mare?
Judy
http://iceryder.net
http://clickryder.com
>. . . We can keep them up in "starvation lots" and control every bite they
get, but gosh, that's got to be so mentally stressful for them. . . .<
Yes, sometimes one is faced with selecting the lesser of two evils. It's
not an easy decision to go against a horse's natural desires, but in the
c
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:21:04 -0800, you wrote:
>Oh, wow! Any idea what she ended up doing?
No, not yet - when I told her she couldn't use ours, she said she
thought the Exmoor stallion was too far away and said she would
probably use a local piebald cob ("Irish Tinker") instead
[growl]
Mic
I finally got a chance to look up this term in Lee Ziegler's book. For
anyone else who may be wanting more information, there is one reference and
explanation of the term on page 135.
I found Lee's passage about it quite helpful in understanding what the
"foxrack" was exactly and how to think of
> I had a lady phone me the other day who has a registered Exmoor mare.
> Exmoors are really rare, on the endangered list.
> No thought of gaits/temperament/use of the offspring etc,
Oh, wow! Any idea what she ended up doing?
Judy
http://iceryder.net
http://clickryder.com
> I choose a stallion who, himself, has very good conformation.
>I put evidence of athleticism on the stallion's part as a prime
>requirement.
>Another prime thing is disposition ... look for stallions that throw
>"calmness"
Good list, Lynn!
I would like to see that a stallion can gait withou
I shall keep my TWH away from the computer. He's already convinced
squirrels are dangerous.
Nancy
>
Connie, the female setter,
> seemed particularly
> worried about "the baby."
>
>
> Karen Thomas, NC
>
I'm glad Maggie is alright! That must have been so
traumatic for everyone!
Kim
Looking for l
>> http://iceryder.net/videogait3horses.html
>>
> Well, I am not good at identifying rack/saddle rack/tolt but these
> ponies all look like they are pacing to me.
Good job! It's stepping pace in each case.
Judy
http://iceryder.net
http://clickryder.com
The most common
> comment I heard from the judges (in the videos where I can understand what
> the judge is saying...)? Needs more speed...not fast enough... needs more
> lift...canter not fast enough...yada, yada... Most of the horses look
> nervous and rushed to me as they are, and way too man
>
> I didn't quite "get" a lot about that video.
Boy me too. In fact, I didn't watch the entire thing. For some reason it
was really bothering me.
As for speeds. My grandson rides with a GPS sometimes. Hunter flat walks
at 6 mph very eaily and just flows along. Juniors are required to ride
This is a nice recognition of Tosca's phlegmatic Icelandic temperment -
says something for her 1/4 Peruvian DNA too. Or maybe they just thing
her
stocky little body makes a good roadblock.
Good girl! Honestly, I think the vast majority of Icelandic's are like
that - IF they h
>>>A friend checked this out on Snopes. Apparently it IS true though the
aligator is only (only...ha) 13 to 14 feet long. I think I'm glad I have
cougars :).
One other slightly incorrect detail in that e-mail: the gator wasn't in
Florida. Nope, he was near the Georgia/SC border, near Savann
On Feb 15, 2008 9:35 AM, Laree Shulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's been a tough week in our family.
Gee Laree, that sounds really hard. I know you have a lot of support
from your family and friends. Let's get together soon.
Sue
> http://iceryder.net/videogait3horses.html What gait(s) are these
> ponies doing?
>> Well, I am not good at identifying rack/saddle rack/tolt but these ponies
>> all look like they are pacing to me.
I didn't quite "get" a lot about that video. I couldn't get it to
freeze-frame ea
>>> What a scare. Glad she is okay, it can be amazing how animals can get
themselves caught in places that they don't fit
That kennel gate opened into the fenced backyard. The gate swings opens
back into the kennel, away from the backyard. We're almost positive that
she couldn't have pull
On 17/02/2008, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is a nice recognition of Tosca's phlegmatic Icelandic temperment -
> says something for her 1/4 Peruvian DNA too. Or maybe they just thing her
> stocky little body makes a good roadblock.
Ah...she's making a name for herself. Quite an
I had two people ask me yesterday if Tosca could be the voice of reason next
week on trail rides. One horse is an older Arab gelding that got hurt last
summer. His owner wants to take him on a short sane ride as a possible
return to light work. The second horse is a young Arab gelding that ha
We're looking at replacing Marty and Jenni. I can't bear not having a
dog out in the yard with me when I'm out...especially now that we KNOW
we have a cougar in the area. It's comforting to have another pair of
eyes and ears out there with me.
Marty always remained safe simply because he stayed
Oh gee. That would keep me out of the water. Yuck!
Nancy
Wet, she really resembles out poodle Beazie, who topped out at 6 lbs and
lived to be almost 17. I miss having a tiny dog, but I think we'll wait
until we don't have quite so many big dogs. Dorie, the Australian Shepherd,
is 14 1/2. Maybe she'll keep perking along until she's 17, but that's
u
On 16/02/2008, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ohmigosh. She is so cute. How much does she weigh?
>
> Nancy
She's due for shots again next week so I will know exactly then. But
at 8 weeks she was 2 lbs. I would guess now that she's about 3 or 4
lbs. But like Peppy, she doesn't reali
> On Feb 15, 2008 9:35 AM, Laree Shulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It's been a tough week in our family.
>
> Laree,
>
What a terrible week you have had! My thoughts and prayers are with you.
Robyn Hood
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