I finally acknowledged what I've known
> for a few years - I have asthma. I'm taking treatment for it this
year.
I'm in exactly the same boat. I have ignored my asthma because I was
too busy working as a doctor! One day I checked my peak flow and it was
200. It remained there. I then ignored
> Just talked to the vet and Fafnir's temp is down to 101 and he is
eating.
> He is much brighter and we will see how he is in the morning
>
> Robyn>
Great news. I am really pleased for you and hope everything turns out ok
Sue UK(Coombes)
Oh man - I have to show this to my archer husband.
He has a friend who recently retired after selling his archery shop. They
have two blinds set up in our hay field where this guy sits for hours at a
time trying to shoot a turkey with an arrow. I'm not sure how I feel about
this, but it's kee
>From the SCA:
http://donwenna.homestead.com/Horse_Archery.html
Judy
http://iceryder.net
http://clickryder.com
Good News!
Nancy
Hi
Just talked to the vet and Fafnir's temp is down to 101 and he is eating.
He is much brighter and we will see how he is in the morning. Still don't
know what is wrong with him but it is not a threat to our herd.
Robyn
Well done, Wanda. I would write thst I can't believe how you are bundled
up, but we have more snow in our forecast.
Nancy
>
> Palominos rock!
>
Yes they do.
> I think we have more than that in common, Lorraine.
> Are you better? Didn't you
> first get sick in January too? I've been punier
> this year than I can every
> remember.
That is so nice of you to say. I am better. Still
week. I took a ride toda
>> brought in the first guy as he didn't have much gut sound and called the vet
Hi Robynhow is your horses doing??? Reiki sent. {{{HUGS}}}
Raven
Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies
Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies
Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze
http://www.myspace.co
Temp got up to 106 and pulse 80 - just before he left for the vet. I spoke
with Peggy Fleming DVM a classical homeopath and she suggested two remedies
- one which I had. His temp was down to 104.8 within an hour of receiving
the remedy.
He is now at the vet, they did an ultra sound as they thoug
> Do you think he would've recovered without the hospital stay?
He would not have recovered without supportive treatment. I went to visit
him a couple of times. He had three huge bage of fluids running at all
times. I think that this might have been possible to pull off at home, but
we prob
> > For a pacey horse that you would like to have fox trot, you would do
> > something different than asking the square horse to fox trot, and also
> > different than asking the naturally gaited fox trotter to fox trot.
> >
>
> What do you do? Or does it depend on the horse.
Yes, it depends
This is totally off topic, but here is the Sheriff from where we lived in AZ:
Joe Arpaio, Sheriff, has jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and
charges the inmates for them.
He stopped smoking and porno magazines in the jails. Took away their
weights. Cut off all but 'G' movies.
He started cha
> What a cute dog - where did you get him?
> >
>From a breeder in North Carolina. We love the herding dog mentality and
were looking for a dog who wouldn't shed. When I looked into this mix I was
impressed by how consistent they seem to be in terms of personality and
looks. Our last 20 yea
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My first Icelandic rehab...badly in need of brushing.
>
Looks good to me!
V
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> . He was negative for everything they
> tested and there never was a definitive diagnosis. He had a full recovery
> and I ride him many miles a week.
>
Do you think he would've recovered without the hospital stay?
V
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> For a pacey horse that you would like to have fox trot, you would do
> something different than asking the square horse to fox trot, and also
> different than asking the naturally gaited fox trotter to fox trot.
>
What do y
>>> AAHHH. My favorite color.
Palominos rock!
I think we have more than that in common, Lorraine. Are you better? Didn't
you
first get sick in January too? I've been punier this year than I can every
remember. I had the flu, then pneumonia, then an ear infection, and then a
couple of co
Has anyone heard from Robyn?
Mary
On Apr 16, 2008, at 9:43 AM, Susan Coombes wrote:
My opinion isn't worth much as I am only learning!
So are we all! Sounds to me like you have given this a lot more
thought than most folks, me included!
Kat
On Apr 16, 2008, at 2:43 PM, Karen Thomas wrote:
Maja is at 353 days gestation today, and Flekka at 346.
Karen Thomas, NC
Karen,
Love all your horse pictures, but I am sure looking forward to this
year's baby pic's. Come on Maja and Flekka!
Kat
> The lovely Ms. Sina, followed by the lovely Ms.
> Saga, moms of Landi and
AAHHH. My favorite color.
Lorraine
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> They really like me!
>
>
> Moments like these give me those Sally Field
> moments. The herd sees me and
> comes to meet and greet. That's Kola in front,
> followed by previously
> "wary" Cali. Others in this crowd are Runa, Landi,
> Isak, Brunka, Tifa,and
> Trausti - did I forget anyon
This is a video of Doris and her pony, from the German clickryder list; sort
of at-liberty driving:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuye5OTIk-s
Judy
http://iceryder.net
http://clickryder.com
Jaspar has ear mites.
Janice
--
even good horses have bad days sometimes.
>>> For a pacey horse that you would like to have fox trot, you would do
>>> something different than asking the square horse to fox trot, and also
>>> different than asking the naturally gaited fox trotter to fox trot.
Exactly. When we start the young horses under saddle, we let them pick the
> Here's the Horse article:
>
> http://www.thehorse.com/viewarticle.aspx?ID=5469
>
> and some info about lice with Icelandic Horses:
>
> http://iceryder.net/lice.html
>
> I saw a herd of Icelandics with lice. It was not very nice looking.
Once again, I've learned something from this list
--
La
Oh my. I remember feeling like that.
Nancy
Hunter is supposed to be leaving Friday morning for a weekend endurance ride
and when I went to give him a light ride this morning, one of his front
shoes was "tweaked". I put in an emergency call to our farrier, but was
left with nothing I could really do, so we had a spa day.
I braided Hunte
>OK, some of you are going to say "what's the big deal" but I'm
>excited. Doppa and Mura decided they could share the run-in shed
>today.
That's great Laree, now they're BFF (best friends forever)! It's
interesting to here the progression they've made adapting to their new
environment and each o
> Glamorous Bjola, in one of her less flattering moments. :)
She may not run toward you the next time you come out with a camera.
Nancy
What did the horse have Nancy??
Well, it wasn't Rhino.
He presented with diarhea and the elevated temp, wasn't eating well. Our
regular vet was out of town, so I called one of the favored equine vets
around here, 45 miles away. He did a fecal, drew blood and started IV's in
the barn. He c
> Do you ask for gait the same way with all your horses?
There are some similarities in how to ask for gait, and some differences.
For a pacey horse that you would like to have fox trot, you would do
something different than asking the square horse to fox trot, and also
different than asking the
They all look like they're having so much fun.
Nancy
> equine vet says all horses have lice. That's not what I remember, so I
> looked it up on Horse.com and got a different view
Here's the Horse article:
http://www.thehorse.com/viewarticle.aspx?ID=5469
and some info about lice with Icelandic Horses:
http://iceryder.net/lice.html
I saw a her
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWC1hQOJM8Y
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QvTp17tRlw
>
>
Looks fun! My Sensation would probably get ruined though.
V
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> They really like me!
>
>
> Moments like these give me those Sally Field moments. The herd sees me and
> comes to meet and greet.
Awww, too cute! You are so lucky.
V
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> >
> >
> > Do you ask for gait the same way with all your horses?
> > V
> >
>
>
> haha YES thats a good one v tee hee. I dont know jackola about askin
> for gait! My horses just do what they do! But I have learne
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A friend has an awful mess with horse lice in her brood mare band. Her
> equine vet says all horses have lice. That's not what I remember, so I
> looked it up on Horse.com and got a different view. I'm not going to get in
A friend has an awful mess with horse lice in her brood mare band. Her
equine vet says all horses have lice. That's not what I remember, so I
looked it up on Horse.com and got a different view. I'm not going to get in
an argument with her, but what do you think?
Nancy
They sure do. How cute!
Nancy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWC1hQOJM8Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QvTp17tRlw
Judy
>>> My husband will be especially happy to see it because he couldn't
>>> understand why I couldn't just go out there and just make Doppa let Mura
>>> in. Actually, I don't think Doppa ever objected but Mura needed
>>> connvincing. It really bothered him to see Doppa standing in the shed
>>>
> OK, some of you are going to say "what's the big deal" but I'm
> excited. Doppa and Mura decided they could share the run-in shed
How neat!
Since we lost Ljufur, and only have the two girls, one of which has been
pretty much a baby up until now, I see the dynamics changing between them.
> Will you let us know how that goes? We did the 105+ temp and vet hospital
> three years ago. It scared me and (after a week in hospital) it was
> expensive.
What did the horse have Nancy?? I am worried about the Rhino thing...
Janice
--
even good horses have bad days sometimes.
On 4/16/08, Cherie Mascis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bad and clever Doppa! You'd think Mura would be up in that bird feeder
> with her flexible elephant lips!
>
> Cherie
>
if you caught nasi at the bird feeder he would become veyyy still,
having long ago figured out he becomes invisible if
> Now I have no idea. It could be any of them. If I was going to try
> really hard and pretend to myself I was very clever (no-one else would
> believe it ) I would say it was more foxtrotty because the airborn
> front leg is in line with the grounded front leg. My head aches for
> tryng to be clev
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjE9zN9oB04
Here's another at-liberty video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s12puPVOmGQ
Judy
>
> Yes, long-distance, bummer. You've got to re-shoot this closer! It's
> great work!
This reminds me of when we went to the Olympics in Atlanta - we had
tickets to all the equestrian events. I borrowed a video camera so we
could tape the Dressage tests. My husband very sweetly volunteered t
OK, some of you are going to say "what's the big deal" but I'm
excited. Doppa and Mura decided they could share the run-in shed
today. My horses never use the run-in in the winter but in the summer
they use it every day. Even though they have lots of shade trees, I
think where the run-in is loc
> > There's three different clips in this video:
> >
> > http://youtube.com/watch?v=_yoTfQJuAjA
> >
> I missed the answer to this one.
I really like this video for it's educational value. The horse is not
set in any gaits and he varies them, but it's very interesting to see
and note the tra
> Here's the link to the long distance video...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjE9zN9oB04
Yes, long-distance, bummer. You've got to re-shoot this closer! It's
great work!
Judy
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Judy Ryder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> There's three different clips in this video:
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=_yoTfQJuAjA
>
I missed the answer to this one.
Sue Coombes
> > http://iceryder.net/gaitfirstphase.html
> Now I have no idea. It could be any of them. If I was going to try
> really hard and pretend to myself I was very clever (no-one else would
> believe it ) I would say it was more foxtrotty because the airborn
> front leg is in line with the groun
> >>> People put "protective" boots on Icelandics when they are
running down a straight track, lest the horse cut his leg off, and all
the yelling and screaming about *protecting* the horse when the weight
of "protective" boots is challenged. So... why would the same people
take the chance of lame
> --- Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> I just ride, and let them figure out what lead they
> are on? <<
>
the instructor told me I was on
> the wrong lead, and I replied, "that's her problem, if
> she is uncomfortable, she will change leads" (meaning
> the horse).
Susan in
> > Running walk?
>
> Check out the First Phase photos designed to help a little in
identifying gaits:
>
> http://iceryder.net/gaitfirstphase.html
>
> Judy
Now I have no idea. It could be any of them. If I was going to try
really hard and pretend to myself I was very clever (no-one else woul
--- Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I just ride, and let them figure out what lead they
are on? <<
Me too!! When I took a clinic last summer, we were
cantering circles, and the instructor told me I was on
the wrong lead, and I replied, "that's her problem, if
she is uncomfortable,
> It was just one more inhumane "notch" to add on my record book under
> their names as far as I'm concerned.
One of the ladies on the original icelandic horse list, about ten to
twelve years ago, called the Icelanders "barbarians" and the training
and riding "barbaric".
All of the people invo
>>I do not believe that a few minutes - once a year or less will cause long term
damage in a fit horse.
It only takes a second to rip a tendon or ligament or tear a muscle. The
cruciate ligament in horses is not fixable. It's a death certificate.
> I'm going to the first UK icetolt next week
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:49:13 -, you wrote:
>But
>the "fast" tolt wasn't going to be a true example because they would
>have to keep them slower due to the ice.
That's the definition of the actual icetolt class. No horse should be
showing fast tolt around corners on ice, that's just daft.
> > Any thoughts on the gait he's doing in this picture? She labeled it
> as his "next gear".
> >
> Running walk?
Check out the First Phase photos designed to help a little in identifying gaits:
http://iceryder.net/gaitfirstphase.html
Judyh
I think if nasi tolted on ice he would end up splay legged spinning in
circles because one thing I notice... have you ever seen a horse
accelerate on a sharp curve? If the surface is slippery, the horse
speeds up to try and beat the slipperyness but then it goes out from
under them. How do I kno
>>>I remember that it was Sigrun and her American husband,
Jason, who seemed to
be sponsoring it, so I assume they were also riding. I assume Gudmar
too...?<<<
You got it Karen, Sigrun and Jason organized it and "performed" as
well as Gudmar, Laura Benson and Jana Meyer. I believe there
> Here's Yvonne working with an Icelandic Horse stallion in Australia.
>
> Any thoughts on the gait he's doing in this picture? She labeled it
as his
> "next gear".
>
Running walk?
Sue coombes
>
> So now I am about 99% trail rider. I still want my horses to bend around my
> leg in order that my knee is not banged into a tree trunk on our narrow
> forest trails. I want him/her to do nice upward and downward transitions
> because they keep us both safe. For instance, we're trotting (or
> as the
> motion of the horse is like centrifugal force that will tend to
move
> us out
> of it.
> Robyn
Does it then follow that to oppose that centrifugal force requires
increased weight on the inside seat bone. Sylvia Loch says so in The
classical Seat (only arrived today).
I made my
I dont know it just seems "hard" to me, complicated! From the saddle,
I cant tell what foot is stepping on the ground, and I dont really
understand why it matters. Altho I do know someone who has a bad back
from a fall when she says her horse changed leads unexpectedly? that
sounds funny to me.
>>> People put "protective" boots on Icelandic's when they are running down
>>> a straight track, lest the horse cut his leg off, and all the yelling
>>> and screaming about *protecting* the horse when the weight of
>>> "protective" boots is challenged. So... why would the same people take
>>>
we are taking him to a local vet hospital this morning.
Will you let us know how that goes? We did the 105+ temp and vet hospital
three years ago. It scared me and (after a week in hospital) it was
expensive.
Nancy
>>> Any thoughts on the gait he's doing in this picture? She labeled it as
>>> his "next gear".
Looks flat walk or running walk to me - along with foxtrot, I think that's
the "real" official gait of the Icelandic horse - HA! He looks nice and
relaxed. What is that - a hackamore over a rope
I see it as VERY applicable to my world though, the lower ends.
Me too! I never got beyond the very lower levels of dressage, but I really
loved the communication and bonding it gave me and my horse. Only in
dressage have I ever experienced the feeling that my horse was absolutely
tuned to
>>> See? that stuff so mystifies and baffles me and seems so complicated
>>> and unrelated to what I actually DO that I tend to tune out and ignore
>>> it, so thats probably why he did not appeal to me.
And Janice, that always seems odd to me when you say that, and I've heard
you say it befor
> I've moved my yearlings to the stallion farm so they can be shown and to
> keep the cost down yet not upset the Icelandic community have decided to
> have two sell prices on them, with or without papers. I figure those
> clients that are going to purchase w/o papers only want trail horses anyway
Hi
Fafnir, the horse with the temp has a higher temp this morning. 105.4 which
considering it was cold last night and he had Banamine last night so we are
taking him to a local vet hospital this morning.
Robyn
How are the horses today? Any chance there are some strange plants or weeds
that
> One stallion's legs went out right under him and he fell on his side.
> The rider got back on and continued. The stallion was clearly shaken
Oh, wow!
No one mentioned / admitted to that in the "beautiful" show report.
Judy
http://iceryder.net
http://clickryder.com
your thoughts for both of them would be appreciated.
Good thoughts going your way.
How are they today?
Judy
http://iceryder.net
http://clickryder.com
>>> I went to the iceshow in VT last month and I have to admit, I was
>>> horrified. I went because I just needed to see for myself. I'm not one
>>> to get overly upset by things but I felt what I witnessed was cruel.
>>> One stallion's legs went out right under him and he fell on his side.
>>>
> I do not believe that a few minutes - 5 minutes loose, 5 minutes "see
> the ice with a rider", 5 minutes competing (with another 5 minutes if
> the horse is in a final) once a year or less will cause long term
> damage in a fit horse.
But it CAN.
Look at it logically.
Study the anatomy, confo
> Doppa has discovered the bird feeders
How funny!
Judy
http://iceryder.net
http://clickryder.com
Big rag muffintoo darn cute
Raven
Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies
Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies
Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze
http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess
Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Bad and clever Doppa! You'd think Mura would be up in that bird feeder
with her flexible elephant lips!
Cherie
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That is one BIG squirrel! HAHA! Too cute.
Raven
Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies
Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies
Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze
http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess
Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
>
> Virginia, sometimes I think the people who make up these gender rules
> haven't had many animals.
I see gender rules apply quite often as a professional dog trainer. It
doesn't have as much to do with mixed groups as it does with same sex
groups.
The worst pairings seem to be same sex and sam
Lanny said:
I'm still under 3 feet of water in some areas and will need to reseed all my
pastures this year. Last year's spring freeze resulted in a first cutting
yield of 20% followed by a drought which produced no second cutting. As a
result I did not breed last year so there will be no 200
> They are happy to run around if they are wearing ice nails,
> apparently. I've not seen it - never been to an icetolt - but a friend
> who went to one in Holland said the horses were allowed loose on to
> the ice before it all started and they seemed to love it as they felt
> secure on it.
I think he developed confidence. I saw several shows on RFDTV about a
year or two ago, a series where he had a long training school thing
over a period of a week or so at his farm or facility or something.
Each episode was very intense in one particular area and there was a
lot of personal interr
He looks like Benji, or a bearded collie!
Janice
--
even good horses have bad days sometimes.
> By the way, I never noticed any of my horses "catching" Tivar's
> three-gaitedness. Janice, has owning him "ruined" your other nicely gaited
> horses?
No, they all just wish they could trot like that :)
Janice
--
even good horses have bad days sometimes.
HHAHA she is a big carolina Wren!
Janice--
even good horses have bad days sometimes.
>
> One Dennis Reis episode I saw that knocked my socks off - and I REALLY wish
> I had it on video - was where he explained SO clearly the difference between
> leg yields and shoulder-ins. He demonstrated the difference himself (no
> horse), by showing the difference in the way his body was bent
>>> wow...i think the person stated "in the vet world". the vet that you
>>> may be referring to is not stupid, IMHO..she is a very bright woman.
Raven, assuming for a minute that you and Janice ARE talking about the same
"vet" - the one that I have in mind, and the same one that Mic named...
From what I understood from others that have seen him in the past is
that he has definitely improved in the showmanship aspect of his
presentation. They said he used to be very boring but he was very
charismatic when I saw him - wonder where he went to learn that.
I don't
Think "wool", and RIT requires hot hot water, as hot as you can get
it. I would have it done by a pro if possible.
janice--
even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Oh robyn,
I am sending healing thoughts to them and hope that this morning they
are up and eating. How scary.
Ann Cassidy
Tosca stays out with her band of horses 24/7, but Hunter, part of the
same group, comes in for the night to a large pen and shelter. He
requires supplemental feeding or he gets too thin, so I go up in the
late afternoon and put him up with his feed, then go back again in
Look at showjumpers and eventers who are ridden every weekend jumping
in mud or on grass with studs in. Is that any different, other than the
fact that of course showjumpers and eventers spend a whole lot more
time doing it???
Just because other disciplines have sins of the
>
> That's funny, because that wasn't my impression of him at all. Now, mind
> you, I haven't had RFD-TV in a couple of years -
Please remember this was an expo, not a clinic, so I'm not sure if it
was representative of his overall work and I only went one day and not
the second - I had never see
I am not really feeling good about
> this horse so your thoughts for both of them would be appreciated.
>
All the positive and healing thoughts I can muster are being sent your way
--
Laree in NC
Doppa & Mura
Simon, Sadie and Sam (the "S" gang)
"Yet when all the books have been read and reread
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Jacki Edens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Cobber is now 7 months old. His father looked a lot like Janice's "eye
> candy" Earl, but his mom is a standard poodle. Great dog, but he bounces
What a cute dog - where did you get him?
--
Laree in NC
Doppa & Mura
Simo
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