[IceHorses] Re: Mixing methods

2007-02-05 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "SHERREL LEININGER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I am hesitant to try nasi > > or Tivar with CT because they are so nippy and treat hounding and seem > > to lose their freaking minds anytime they see a TREAT A TREAT OH MY > > GOD A TREAT and forget everythi

[IceHorses] Re: Horse Play

2007-02-05 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Karen Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> Here is an old picture of me with my horse Splash, maybe around 1983, > out in east San Diego County, Dehesa, she was the best, except for Celie:) > > How fun – lucky you! And believe me, every moment I knew how

Re: [IceHorses] Treating

2007-02-05 Thread kim morton
On 2/5/07, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Buck was too polite to say that in fact it had worked well on the > human... > > His thought was that clicker training helped HER focuson the TRY > rather than the task, and helped HER mark the release > moment. My first thought is there might

[IceHorses] Re: Training and Sweat

2007-02-05 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Judy Ryder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "In training one always wants to go too fast. To arrive quickly, do not > hurry, but be firmly assured of each step. The lesson should be for the > horse, as for the horseman, a rewarding exercise, an instructive gam

Re: [IceHorses] Scooter not in the snow

2007-02-04 Thread kim morton
On 2/4/07, Lorraine Voog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is going to be 80 degrees tomorrow. Lorraine > He's adorable! Kim

[IceHorses] Re: Winter slide show

2007-02-04 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Pamela Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I took these about a week ago when it was snowing in Wisconsin! > These are my babies > > http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f74/hansenshorses/? > action=view¤t=1169435310.pbw > > Hope it works. > I love the pin

[IceHorses] Re: Thoughts?

2007-02-04 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Wanda Lauscher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This statement appeared in our provincial newsletter. > > "Horses can communicate how they are feeling by their facial > expressions. They use their ears, nostrils, and eyes to show their > moods. Beware of a hors

[IceHorses] Re: need Icelandic pony headshot

2007-02-02 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I sent an email earlier that was bounced back. Here are the watercolors I > was trying to send. > Hey, if anybody has a good sideways headshot of their Icelandic (preferably > not really dark colored, I will

[IceHorses] Re: What Gait / Pinto

2007-02-01 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Karen Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think it's the gait that I always screw up when I see it in a "what gait" > picture - when I'm expecting to see a soft gait. Looks like on page 191, > figure #4 of Lee Ziegler's "Easy-Gaited Horses" - canter, I thi

Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Pinto

2007-02-01 Thread kim morton
Is it a rack? It looks like this is a single foot support phase, and it also looks like the hind feet will hit the ground and pick up slightly before the front. Kim

[IceHorses] Re: Svertla pictures

2007-01-31 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Karen Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> Some of them look familiar--she's gorgeous and the hot pink looks great > on her! > > I thought maybe I'd sent some of them in - but I might have sent the > pictures of Ima that day, and even Cary would be hard pr

[IceHorses] Re: "Horses" Used for Horseback Riding in Iceland?

2007-01-31 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Judy Ryder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Horseback riding is popular and stables are numerous, but the horses must be > imported as the Icelandic ponies I saw were short and squat with Shetland > manes and tails. > Whoever wrote this needs a brainwashin

[IceHorses] Gait Question

2007-01-30 Thread kim morton
Is any part of this video showing a flatwalk? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA3_rzcBndA Kim

[IceHorses] Re: Noaval Headstall

2007-01-29 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Judy Ryder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The draft was slowing down and > they almost had one fornt hoof trimmed in ring #1! WOW and only 3 hours into > the show! > > Was I impressed with this headstall? Absolutely NOT! The headstalls > presented for sale

[IceHorses] Re: Horse trader - SE

2007-01-29 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Karen Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've heard of a humid area in NM where some horses have SE, and > there are others too. Unfortunately, we don't have an exact map of these > areas. It does seem that there are enough similar bugs all over North > Am

[IceHorses] Re: Top Twelve Reasons Not to Blame the Rider

2007-01-29 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Janice McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But now I wonder if I should go out > today and work on sliding a lead rope UNDER his tail and see what > happens, see if he has lingering issues with that... You know, I think horses act out in the moment to wha

[IceHorses] Re: Horse trader

2007-01-29 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >He could not understand why until I explained to him that horse >traders in the USA have been known to drug horses when someone was >coming to look at buying one. I don't know about you guys but I know >a lot of horses traders that d

[IceHorses] Re: Short video clips of Melnir

2007-01-28 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Karen Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Melnir has been a little ignored lately, but I got him out today and made a > few short video clips. He is nice and sturdy looking. Kim

[IceHorses] Re: Stigandi

2007-01-28 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Judy Ryder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sherrel sent a few pictures of Stigandi. I owned his mother at one time. > > Very nice markings! Kim

[IceHorses] Re: Horse trader

2007-01-28 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > like i was worried > about moving a horse from low-se country to the swamp we call new > england in the summer. > Kentucky? I thought Stjarni was coming from Kentucky. I think it's fairly humid and buggy here in the summer. I think h

[IceHorses] Re: Horse trader

2007-01-28 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > huh. the horse's perspective is always why we insisted on trials when > we sold horses from the lesson barn into new homes. we don't know if > the new home will be a good fit or not, even if a person tries a horse > several times

[IceHorses] Re: Horse trader

2007-01-28 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Karen Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > And, of course, the other possibility with what you describe is that the new > owners are the crazy ones! One person I remember telling me that was an experienced horse person, she was a little crazy, but I do

[IceHorses] Re: What Gait?

2007-01-27 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Karen Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Once I thought maybe saddle rack and the next time I thought maybe slightly > to the diagonal (trotty) side...but whatever it was, I think it's fairly > close to the middle. The bigger one looked more lateral - pro

[IceHorses] Re: What Gait?

2007-01-27 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Wanda Lauscher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > but the older mare looks as though > she's doing a saddle rack (three foot support), but it seems to morph > into something else as well. > She looks a litte on the pacey side to me. They just bought her and will pr

[IceHorses] Re: What Gait?

2007-01-27 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, susan cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > kim morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx5-fxbMWgo << > > The older one is definately lateral - a step pace. What breed are they? >

[IceHorses] What Gait?

2007-01-27 Thread kim morton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx5-fxbMWgo I just took this video. It's not the best, there is a fence in the way and some of the quality went down from uploading it. You can see it is really muddy because it warmed up again, so I didn't feel like walking out in the pasture. I could see it bett

[IceHorses] Re: Horse trader

2007-01-27 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know about you guys but I know a lot of horses traders that drug a horse to sell and when the new owners get it home it is definitely not a "child's horse" that it was sold t be. > R

[IceHorses] Re: Iceland's Oldest Horse Dies

2007-01-25 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, pippa258 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Storme Lee~Fire Island Farms wrote: > > What I would like is a more humane way to raise and slaughter > > animals. > I think this is what Temple Grandin has tried to do. Not sure how much > her methods and suggestions

[IceHorses] Re: Top Twelve Reasons Not to Blame the Rider

2007-01-24 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Karen Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But just as this article points out, there are > other factors involved, like the baggage he brings to us from his prior > life, assuming he wasn't born with us. > > I like that it has us look at horses as individual

[IceHorses] Re: Iceland's Oldes/Bucking problem

2007-01-24 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "pasobeth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >me rather than being with > the herd in pasture, even though they come running to greet me, do > their jobs for me willingly. > I actually have a couple who seem to fight over who gets the halter and gets to get out of the

[IceHorses] Re: Bucking problem - not in the domestic Icelandics?

2007-01-24 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Janice McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >in a > crowd of 300 horses racing over hill and dale like maniacs he is a > little hyped up shall we say...Am I giving up on him? Like I told my > husband "if I sold stonewall I would look for him every day I li

[IceHorses] Re: Eating 'Em

2007-01-23 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> case i'm pretty sure that the majority of historical icelandic breeding > hasn't been done with the feif published standards and evaluations, so i > was curious if we know how it *was* done. > Someone may know more about that. I w

[IceHorses] Re: Eating 'Em

2007-01-23 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > i still don't see how natural gait could be selected *against*? > > --vicka > It definitely can, that is where the American Saddlebred has ended up. If you keep breeding for high action animated trot, and don't see any gait a

[IceHorses] Re: Eating 'Em

2007-01-23 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Karen Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> I am not sure anyone wants to tell people in Iceland what to eat. I > think we just think that the "slaughtering for quality" argument is really > valid. > > That's exactly it, Kim - assuming you meant that "slau

[IceHorses] Re: Eating 'Em

2007-01-23 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > i'll buy that this is true now. but a thousand-year history for it - - > which is what is being claimed with the genetic version -- seems > technologically infeasible. > > does anyone know the long-term historical data on this? >

[IceHorses] Re: Eating 'Em

2007-01-23 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 05:49:31PM -0500, Karen Thomas wrote: > > It is to a lot of us. The time to think about the gaits you want the foals > > to have is before you breed. You don't breed by trial and error and eat > > your mistak

[IceHorses] Re: Iceland's Oldes/Bucking problem

2007-01-23 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Janice McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > He said (she said?) that a horse > should no longer have saddle pain after two months under saddle?? I think she said that a horse should not buck after two months under saddle, and was saying that it shouldn't be

[IceHorses] Re: Iceland's Oldes/Bucking problem

2007-01-23 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Anneliese Virro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Any horse, the best horses on the planet, and I own one of > > them, is a complete maniac the first year under saddle. Anyone who > > says different is either a liar or inexperienced or lucky or has a > > horse

[IceHorses] Re: Iceland's Oldest Horse Dies

2007-01-21 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Ingvar Ragnarsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > horses that are put in the slaughter house is > mostly injured or crazy one´s as I would defined > it could have bucking problems (most likely) What kind of bucking problem? Really horses don't usually want to

[IceHorses] Re: First YouTube try

2007-01-21 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Karen Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Here's a short clip to test my YouTube abilities. I've only uses a > camcorder a few times so don't laugh! > > Nice view of your diverse herd! I wondered for a minute what breed the > white "ponies" were, but a

Re: [IceHorses] RFDTV Parelli

2007-01-21 Thread Kim Morton
--- Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This week on RFDTV Parelli has this woman in a wheel > chair on. My > favorite horse training shows are always the ones > where the horse > isn't perfectly trained, but has a problem and they > work thru it. > I saw that too, it was great. I lo

[IceHorses] Some Helpful Horse Tips

2007-01-20 Thread Kim Morton
I was looking for a remedy I need and found these tips for all kinds of things, they even have a tip for getting pine tar out of a mane, it would have come in handy when Dari got his entire forelock stuck full pine sap last year:) http://moniteausaddleclub.com/horse_tips.htm Kim

Re: [IceHorses] renegade hopeless horses

2007-01-20 Thread Kim Morton
--- Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The second one is still around and he is actually > mean. The meanest, > most calculating, evil horse I have ever seen. And > I met him when he > was age 6 months and was just being weaned. I have > never seen this > horse mistreated a day in hi

Re: [IceHorses] Video

2007-01-19 Thread Kim Morton
--- Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/19/07, Kim Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Are you filming with a digital camera? > > > > Yes--we got one for Xmas--it's a Sony Handycam. > V > Do

Re: [IceHorses] Re: At Liberty / Neckrope

2007-01-19 Thread Kim Morton
--- Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "When the horse screams in the only way he > knows... > > with body language to make us understand that > > something is wrong humans call it "protest, > stubborn, > > spoiled" for the horse it is his voice". > > > > I would like a TShirt that says t

Re: [IceHorses] Video

2007-01-19 Thread Kim Morton
--- Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm still experimenting--can't figure out how to rid > the audio; and > the lighting is badbut here is one of Orri and > Gat and my hubby: > http://s104.photobucket.com/albums/m199/vlt2006/?action=view¤t=GatandOrri.flv > V > Are you filming w

Re: [IceHorses] Using Energy

2007-01-19 Thread Kim Morton
--- Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boWrO1rlefM > > That's pretty neat. I've been thinking about this off and on. It would be good to take some time out with the horses and try some of this. Kim

Re: [IceHorses] Re: At Liberty / Neckrope

2007-01-19 Thread Kim Morton
--- Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4HcYCB-7eA > > > > I like that, I'm thinking, if I could do anything > like > > that with my mule, it would be a miracle. > > I think the journey towards that type of goal would > be a fun thing to do. > > How abo

Re: [IceHorses] At Liberty / Neckrope

2007-01-19 Thread Kim Morton
--- Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4HcYCB-7eA > > Judy > I like that, I'm thinking, if I could do anything like that with my mule, it would be a miracle. Kim

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Beowulf and Grendel

2007-01-19 Thread Kim Morton
--- Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://www.marisasano.ca/?p=161 > > Did anyone view this link? What was mentioned about > the Icelandics? > > I saw it, they said: "And the cute little Icelandic horses (they take offense at being called ponies, though they are all very small)

Re: [IceHorses] Christopher

2007-01-19 Thread Kim Morton
--- ToltallyICE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You are WAY out of line. > > If this is what this list is going to be reduced to > I've had enough. > I am curious, Cheryl, what do you think of what Christopher said? I don't know who he is at all, I suspect he has been fed these things by other

[IceHorses] Re: New here also

2007-01-18 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "twhgroopie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This mare was origanally bred by Icelandics Fra Slettunni in Iowa. Her > Sire is Kometur fra Field Wood and Dam is Lysa fra Norregaard. > I am familiar with bloodlines of Rocky and Kentucky Mountain horses, > but Icela

RE: [IceHorses] Pacing Standardbreds Video

2007-01-18 Thread Kim Morton
--- Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Looks like a fast pace to me, it looks smooth > too. I also see a soft > intermediate gait in there when they are going > slower. > > I wish the resolution were a little clearer on > YouTube, but I wouldn't be > surprised if that horse has all fo

Re: [IceHorses] Pacing Standardbreds Video

2007-01-18 Thread Kim Morton
--- Raven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pacing (FAST) Standardbreds > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBtqqWWKR8E > Looks like a fast pace to me, it looks smooth too. I also see a soft intermediate gait in there when they are going slower. Kim

Re: [IceHorses] Travel and New Horse

2007-01-18 Thread Kim Morton
--- Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > it is very bad to not quarantine, but no one is more > guilty of that > than me! I think it is just good horse managment to quarentine them for a little bit, I've let them touch sooner too, but it always worries me, all you need is for something

Re: [IceHorses] field trials

2007-01-17 Thread Kim Morton
--- Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They will all look > at me like oh brother, shes brought her dang > shetland pony out here, > and then when they see him move... it will be fun :) You know, I got all good feedback about Dari, I did get to take him on a couple of trail rides in t

RE: [IceHorses] Gudmar's Interview/Christophers' response

2007-01-17 Thread Kim Morton
--- Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm totally confused. Who is Christopher in the > subject line? Did someone > by that name write a prior e-mail that I haven't > received...or is this > e-mail under the name of Jeannette actually a > response by someone named > Christopher? I

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Sidepull question

2007-01-17 Thread Kim Morton
--- Lorraine Voog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How about the mechanical hackamore. What is the > difference between > that and the bosal type? Lorraine > Those use leverage to put pressure under the chin, either with a leather or chain curb strap, it can be pretty harsh, especially the cha

Re: [IceHorses] Alternative to USIHC / FEIF

2007-01-17 Thread Kim Morton
--- Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: people > are not warm and > receptive when they learn WHY a horse walks like > that... they vomit > at horse shows. I aint kiddin and thats no > exaggeration. They > actually weep and vomit when they have never seen it > before. It isn't good at

Re: [IceHorses] more of Hneta

2007-01-17 Thread Kim Morton
--- Ingvar Ragnarsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hneta is just a photografers dream! she likes to > show off and her color makes it pretty easy to > photograf even thou the sun is setting and it´s snow > on the ground > > She is very cute! Kim

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Gudmar's Interview-diseases

2007-01-17 Thread Kim Morton
--- stroppelj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > a horse coming directly from Iceland usually don't > need to be > quarantined as there are no infectiuos horse > diseases in Iceland. If > you quarantine them, then to prevent them from being > infected from the > resident horses ;-). the problem m

Re: [IceHorses] Gudmar's Interview

2007-01-17 Thread Kim Morton
--- Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >We paid over > $11,000 for him as an un-trained four year > old... He would have been worth more if we > received him in the condition he is in now. so a > gelding in the $12,000 to $15,000 range is not > unrealistic.. I do think they have

Re: [IceHorses] Gudmar's Interview

2007-01-17 Thread Kim Morton
--- Stephanie Caldwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I can't believe that someone would take a horse > who's traveled that > far and not quarantine them and just put them out > with the herd. > That's pretty irresponsible and shows total > disregard for the horses > he's going out with, no tellin

Re: [IceHorses] bucking

2007-01-17 Thread Kim Morton
--- Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I > dont know what else > to do. He is the best trail horse, the best gaited > horse. I have to > get him over this. and me too. > Janice > It can happen that some horses will start trying to buck to get their way. I have no idea if he will tr

Re: [IceHorses] Gudmar's Interview

2007-01-17 Thread Kim Morton
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and i > thought it would do us good to do more trail riding > over more difficult > terrain (both him and me). i've missed the intense > training i had > received at my last barn (we've had one lesson in > six weeks, and i > have a trial coming up this week with a

RE: [IceHorses] Flying pace...?

2007-01-17 Thread Kim Morton
--- Robyn Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In looking at the large groups of riders at the > Field Trials with all those > gaited horses with what sound like such good gaits, > I wonder why anyone > would buy Icelandics?? I really like ponies, that is really why. I don't see any other stocky

RE: [IceHorses] A joke?

2007-01-16 Thread Kim Morton
--- Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> I went back to the site and saw more of the > videos he had taken plus I > read the comments. The rider is a professional > trainer and he was starting > that horse--he did not train it to lay down--it did > that on its own! > > I didn't watch t

RE: [IceHorses] Flying Pace?

2007-01-16 Thread Kim Morton
--- Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At least we admit we have stupid rednecks in the > south. And you know, best > I can tell, there are stupid rednecks to be found > all over the world...some > are even attractive with exotic accents. > It just must be horrifying to the Icelandic "h

[IceHorses] Re: testing- bounce

2007-01-16 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Robyn Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Yahoo was bouncing our email, just testing to see if problem solved > > I've been bouncing too. Kim

RE: [IceHorses] Flying Pace?

2007-01-15 Thread Kim Morton
--- Robyn Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That horse is > very fast in rack but it still sounds like a rack > compared to a flying pace. It looks on the pacey side to me, but I think the timing maybe a little off for it to really be a flying pace, when I try to freeze the video and look at it ne

[IceHorses] Flying Pace?

2007-01-14 Thread Kim Morton
Here is a You Tube Video, I am thinking this is a great site. I will have to get some videos, they tell me my horses have been ripping all over the place, but of course they are standing like lawn ornaments when I arrive. http://tinyurl.com/y3ungb See if this works. At least I didn't choose the

RE: [IceHorses] Re: Do horses like grooming?

2007-01-14 Thread Kim Morton
--- Robyn Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Personally I find the prey / predator model not very > useful since most > species can be either depending on the context. I > like to approach animals > by wanting to be non-threatening rather than > threatening - using that > attitude it doesn't m

Re: [IceHorses] Gudmar's Interview

2007-01-14 Thread Kim Morton
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i recall there being a lot of resistance here on > this list to > the idea that i was going to be putting a lot of > kids on my > icey; I think the key word is a "lot" of kids. >that he would be a bad choice for that b/c of > his breed. I don't really recall an

Re: [IceHorses] Gudmar's Interview

2007-01-13 Thread Kim Morton
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > the idea that one sort of wording is "correct" is > exactly the kind of > prescriptive way of looking at language that tells > us english sentences > oughtn't end in prepositions because latin sentences > can't. > > --vicka > Actually I don't think I have heard

Re: [IceHorses] New breed spokesperson

2007-01-13 Thread Kim Morton
--- Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: They can foxtrot upwards of 6 to 8 > miles per hour tho > there have been documented cases of icelandics > occasionally GPS > clocked at 110 mph. This is good, I think you should do it. Kim

Re: [IceHorses] What Gait - Starri/ Kopar

2007-01-13 Thread Kim Morton
--- pippa258 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It is truly a gorgeous day in NC today...sunny, > breezy and warm. Went > out for a trail ride with my neighbors this morning > - through the woods, > stream crossings, fields. > Trish > > Nice driving picture. Aren't you guys lucky, I think I'm

RE: [IceHorses] Flying pace...?

2007-01-13 Thread Kim Morton
--- Robyn Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IME a flying pace is quite a different feel than a > Standardbred pace. > > Absolutely, I am sure, I have never ridden one, but I have heard of some having some soft gaits in addition to pace. Kim

Re: [IceHorses] other breeds

2007-01-13 Thread Kim Morton
--- Ingvar Ragnarsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ok as I don´t have another breed to compare with > here in Iceland > how are the gaits in other gaited breeds? do > people at daily basis use all 5 gears? or 4? > as we do in Icelandics? It varies, and they don't normally use gait plus trot,

Re: [IceHorses] Flying pace...?

2007-01-13 Thread Kim Morton
--- Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And here's this new jewel...from > http://www.icelandics.org/checklist.html#naturaltolter > > "Also known as the skeith, not every Icelandic Horse > exhibits this fifth > gait. This is a very fast lateral gait, very > slightly four-beat, with a > per

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Do horses like grooming?

2007-01-13 Thread Kim Morton
--- Susan Cushing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Could it be that the horse is 'tactile defensive'? > I work wiith handicapped > folks and this is one of many isues that I come > across. This would mean > that "normal" touch is not fun. Some need strong > touch, some find clothing > awful

Re: [IceHorses] Gudmar's Interview

2007-01-13 Thread Kim Morton
--- Kim Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Gudmar's interview is here: > > > > http://iceryder.net/radioshow.html > > > I remembered one thing he said about pony vs. horse. He said t

RE: [IceHorses] Natural Tolter

2007-01-13 Thread Kim Morton
--- Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> This term is sometimes used to refer to a horse > whose favorite gait is > tolt. This horse might be more difficult to get into > trot and/or canter (the > Icelandic Horse is truly four and five-gaited and a > good trot and canter are > prized), a

RE: [IceHorses] Natural Tolter

2007-01-13 Thread Kim Morton
--- Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is the four-beat, lateral gait of the > Icelandic Horse, which is > very comfortable to ride. It is sometimes compared > to the rack of the > American Saddlebred, > > NO! Wait, this is new. When did they change this? > I *think* they ma

Re: [IceHorses] Gusti Pics

2007-01-13 Thread Kim Morton
--- Kim Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why I'm riding a green horse > > around without a > > halter, just proves how simple I am. > > > or maybe advanced. I am pretty sure Ray Hu

Re: [IceHorses] Gusti Pics

2007-01-13 Thread Kim Morton
--- Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why I'm riding a green horse > around without a > halter, just proves how simple I am. or maybe advanced. I am pretty sure Ray Hunt has people start horses with nothing on their heads. Kim

Re: [IceHorses] Gudmar's Interview

2007-01-13 Thread Kim Morton
--- Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gudmar's interview is here: > > http://iceryder.net/radioshow.html > I just listened to it. First, I wish they would all get their definition of tolt straight, I mean all have the same definition. He said it was a singlefoot gait, with even 4 beat. T

Re: [IceHorses] Was Holar, now evaluations

2007-01-13 Thread Kim Morton
--- Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't see why there would even have to be a > consideration to look towards > the USIHC. > > Start as a separate entity. Why bother wasting the > energy to try to change > that organization? It might be a good idea to put > the positive energy in

Re: [IceHorses] Natural Tolter

2007-01-12 Thread Kim Morton
--- Kim Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Courtesy of the USIHC, what do you think about this > definition? > > http://www.icelandics.org/checklist.html#naturaltolter > This part is pretty good: "Tolt This is the four-beat, lateral gait of the Icelandic Horse, wh

[IceHorses] Natural Tolter

2007-01-12 Thread Kim Morton
Courtesy of the USIHC, what do you think about this definition? http://www.icelandics.org/checklist.html#naturaltolter "Natural Tolter This term is sometimes used to refer to a horse whose favorite gait is tolt. This horse might be more difficult to get into trot and/or canter (the Icelandic Hor

RE: [IceHorses] Was Holar, now evaluations

2007-01-12 Thread Kim Morton
--- Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> You know, I actually think we on this list could > potentially be a > powerful force for change. I think that if we all > ganged up on "them > biddies" - you know who I mean - we could set some > changes in motion. But we > would have to > coopera

RE: [IceHorses] Was Holar, now evalutions

2007-01-12 Thread Kim Morton
--- Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why do we > continue to have such an > expensive system to participate in? I think that's exactly it:) > > Does anyone think there's a realistic chance the > USIHC would ever entertain > an alternate evaluation system? > Haha! I don't know, t

Re: [IceHorses] Do horses like grooming?

2007-01-12 Thread Kim Morton
--- pippa258 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He doesn't > react badly or move away from being saddled.I do > wonder if he's > ticklish so tried brushing harder but he doesn't > like that either. > Some horses are just more sensitive than others. We had one mule who was extremely sensitive in

Re: [IceHorses] gaits at liberty

2007-01-12 Thread Kim Morton
--- Ingvar Ragnarsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > you have been talking about gaits at liberty here. > > and somehow I got the feeling that this is rather > uncommon in your breeding stock in US > or you maybe look at it from the wrong perspective > or what to call it. > Do you mean our I

Re: [IceHorses] Was Holar, now evalutions

2007-01-12 Thread Kim Morton
--- Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can think of a couple of ways to vastly streamline > those "strict" rules: > ban all boots, and encourage barefoot. If a > "breeding" horse needs > "protective" boots and/or shoes, IMO, he/she already > has two strikes against > him/her as a breedi

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Holar now gait and shoeing

2007-01-12 Thread Kim Morton
--- Raven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > yes! i have a freind who isone of the MH judges. > last year i watched > her at evaluting a mare who was not really set in > gait. she didn't > pass her. advised the owner to go home and work on > cleaning up the > gaits. <;] kim, trigger is cute!! i

Re: [IceHorses] in-hand videos

2007-01-12 Thread Kim Morton
--- Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyway, I thought it would be fun and fascinating if > someone has the > inclination to try take an inhand videoand allow > us to see what > gait is happening at any given time...or see when a > trot morphs into > something else, or the range

Re: [IceHorses] Gudmar

2007-01-12 Thread Kim Morton
--- Anneliese Virro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Gudmar, Petur (his father), Hakon (his brother) > Kolla (his mother) have > always tried to bring they best horses to the US > they could find. That is good to know, it's important to know who you can trust with horse selling. I think that the

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Holar now gait and shoeing

2007-01-12 Thread Kim Morton
--- Christine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Ever > wonder why so few do? This group is like a private > little sorority. > Those on the "inside" appear to be pointing to us > and saying, poor > things, they just aren't enlightened like us. We'll > let them in when > they agree with us. >

RE: [IceHorses] Re: Holar now gait and shoeing

2007-01-12 Thread Kim Morton
--- Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can someone explain to me why a few people always > get so defensive about > Gudmar, when he's not even been mentioned? After > all, there are lots of > other Icelander trainers that come and go in the > USA... > I think the comment was really abo

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Holar now gait and shoeing

2007-01-12 Thread Kim Morton
--- stroppelj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > maybe just to make sure that none of the horse would > be disqualified > because of a shoeing that is not according to the > breeding rules, how > about that?? > The rules aren't that complicated are they? Kim

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