RE: [IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-25 Thread Karen Thomas
Dear Jesus, thank you for putting Janice's knees and face so far apart Ok, great here comes the Janice and Wanda comedy hour...but please...while I enjoyed the battle of the pictures last week, but we aren't going to have dueling You Tube videos on this topic, are we? Please...NO

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-25 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 25/11/2007, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and just for your information, my daughter left her laptop and it has > a builtin webcam and i was trying to video my nekkid bosoms for > youtube but i couldnt get my face and my knees in all in one screen. > janice Dear Jesus, thank you

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-25 Thread Janice McDonald
On Nov 25, 2007 9:21 AM, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not that you are either middle-aged, or menopausal, Janice. I'm sure your > "breed" doesn't have menopause, and your kind are eternally young, right? ;) > > > > Karen Thomas, NC > and just for your information, my daughter le

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-25 Thread Janice McDonald
> Not that you are either middle-aged, or menopausal, Janice. I'm sure your > "breed" doesn't have menopause, and your kind are eternally young, right? ;) it only happens if i dont get a trace clip so i can vent. janice -- yipie tie yie yo

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-25 Thread Nancy Sturm
"your kind are eternally young"It's the barrels of fish she's been known to eat - or perhaps the salt they're packed in. Nancy pass the fish Sturm

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-25 Thread Laree Shulman
On 11/25/07, Kaaren Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just find it interesting that the low T3/T4 occurs every year for 14 years > during the Fall time & rights itself during the other times of the year & > wonder if others have observed anything similar. That's interesting, Kaaren, and I thi

[IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-25 Thread Kaaren Jordan
I just find it interesting that the low T3/T4 occurs every year for 14 years during the Fall time & rights itself during the other times of the year & wonder if others have observed anything similar. If it stayed low year round, that would be a different story. Could be entirely unrelated to a m

RE: [IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-25 Thread Karen Thomas
>>>I have lethargy and too much hair on my chin this time of year also. Ok, but that's SO different, Janice. It certainly isn't a typical internationally known middle-aged menopausal woman condition, right? It ONLY occurs in the "breed" of women born in the panhandle of Florida, just south of

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-25 Thread Janice McDonald
my Fox is lethargic, slightly off feed, and nervous when I took him out to saddle and ride, (he's not ordinarily a jumpy horse), then I saw him quidding so he's got a mouth/teeth issue and I have to have the tooth vet out. I have lethargy and too much hair on my chin this time of year also. Janic

RE: [IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-25 Thread Karen Thomas
That's interesting - in human hyperthyroid cases, low t3/t4 often gives excess hair growth and tiredness Yes, but you have to be very careful in assigning cause and effect. (Didn't I just say that maybe yesterday?) There's some link (sort of vague) between thyroid levels and IR.

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-25 Thread Mic Rushen
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:28:08 -0800, you wrote: >When I first addded him to our family 14 years ago, I >thought something was wrong with him & drew blood incl a T3/T4. It was low >for that period then came up. That's interesting - in human hyperthyroid cases, low t3/t4 often gives excess hair gr

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-23 Thread Janice McDonald
On 11/23/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > my mom thought long hair would zap your strength even tho she believed > the samson stry in the bible where cutting his hair zapped his strength. > But then she also believed green tennis shoes would kill > > > Oh my gosh, Janice

[IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-23 Thread Kaaren Jordan
I've found that the clipping in the fall helps to some extent, but the Lalli, who is imported from Iceland tends to be more sluggish mid-Sept-Nov. each year even if the weather drops into daytime 60's/nights 40's (we're in Santa Ynez, Calif). When I first addded him to our family 14 years ago, I t

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-23 Thread Pam Hansen
>>>Our Vet says he's never heard of horses eating fish, but with Icey's anything is possible!!<<< Aren't you guys afraid the horse is gonna get sick feeding them weird stuff? My two love bread but I shy away from that too. I am to frightened of colic I guess.

RE: [IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-23 Thread Karen Thomas
my mom thought long hair would zap your strength even tho she believed the samson stry in the bible where cutting his hair zapped his strength. But then she also believed green tennis shoes would kill Oh my gosh, Janice, you're too much. Now...I can honestly say it: "I read somew

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-23 Thread Janice McDonald
my mom thought long hair would zap your strength even tho she believed the samson stry in the bible where cutting his hair zapped his strength. But then she also believed green tennis shoes would kill you. Janice-- yipie tie yie yo

RE: [IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-23 Thread Lorraine
> > Oh yeah, that's me! > > Is that a picture of you Karen? I pictured you differently. What is that??? Lorraine Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http:/

[IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-23 Thread Kaaren Jordan
Nah...I'm not kidding. Lalli loves sardines. I'm just afraid to give him fish. Our Vet says he's never heard of horses eating fish, but with Icey's anything is possible!! Lalli likes bread with butter as well, but that can't be good for him. Kaaren

RE: [IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-23 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Or possibly you're getting your winter coat? ; ) Oh yeah, that's me! Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1146 - Release Date: 11/22/2007 6:55 PM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos:

RE: [IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-23 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Oh come on, how the hell am I supposed to carry on a fight with only THAT to work with? Sorry, Mic, it's the best I can do today. Maybe I'm still lethargic from all the turkey yesterday...or maybe it's just that the holiday season is here! ;) Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this out

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-23 Thread Mic Rushen
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:54:49 -0500, you wrote: >Once I saw her energy return, I didn't feel so bad about asking her to >exercise. Oh come on, how the hell am I supposed to carry on a fight with only THAT to work with? Hell, girl, you're losing your touch. ; ) Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen -

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-23 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> I have to disagree if speaking about our lot (goodness, it's ages since we had a good disagreement! lol) Yep, this is LONG overdue...and darn it, almost petty, too. ;) >>> Even the clipped horses, on cool days, are more lethargic in september than in, say, march (when they have even mor

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-23 Thread Mic Rushen
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 07:53:38 -0500, you wrote: >The ones who get clipped don't act that >way, unless I clip them too early, and too much coat grows back in >before cold weather. That blows the hair-growing-theory to me. I have to disagree if speaking about our lot (goodness, it's ages since we

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-23 Thread Nancy Sturm
I have always ridden (not always by choice) horses that tended to be on the hot side. I think they're quieter when the weather is warmer. I'm thinking that horses might also be calmer/warmer when their coats begin to grow in the Fall and the days are still warm. And all those Thoroughbreds and

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-23 Thread Karen Thomas
>> No, they really do eat herring sometimes. The farmers would stick a barrel out in the winter and the horses would help themselves. Years ago, my husband picked up a bucket in the feed room and saw a small mouse in the bottom. He has that universal overgrown-little-boy trait of seeing

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-23 Thread Karen Thomas
> And I have found some of them DO get more lethargic in the autumn (september, usually) when the main coat-growing is done. Just my own experience. Sure. But the "saga" is that they get lethargic because they are growing the hair, as if the process of growing hair is zapping their e

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-23 Thread Mic Rushen
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:04:43 -0500, you wrote: >I believe those stories about the Icelandic horses eating herring back >in Iceland were "sagas", were they not? Part of the old >they're-not-ponies-they-have-narrower-windpipes-they-get-lethargic-when-they-grow-their > >-coats-in folklore. No, th

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-22 Thread Lorraine
> > I believe those stories about the Icelandic horses > eating herring back > in Iceland were "sagas", were they not? Part of the > old > they're-not-ponies-they-have-narrower-windpipes-they-get-lethargic-when-they-grow-their > My husband read somewhere that they did eat fish in Iceland. I

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-22 Thread pyramid
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 05:04:43PM -0500, Karen Thomas wrote: > I believe those stories about the Icelandic horses eating herring back > in Iceland were "sagas", were they not? well, i know nothing about herring, but the bit about stjarni and the tuna fish was perfectly true. he's not nearly th

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-22 Thread Karen Thomas
When I first read this thread, I honestly thought it was tongue in cheek, but I'm beginning to think otherwise! Let's just say that I'm not rushing out to buy fish for my horses...even if our resident nutritionist (a.k.a. Janice) says so. ;) I believe those stories about the Icelandic h

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bolting/eating fish

2007-11-22 Thread susan cooper
--- Kaaren Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My Icey fromIceland has a taste for fish as well. < When I first read this thread, I honestly thought it was tongue in cheek, but I'm beginning to think otherwise! Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/

[IceHorses] Re: bolting

2007-11-22 Thread Kaaren Jordan
My Icey fromIceland has a taste for fish as well. When he first came to us newly imported, I had taken my lunch which consisted of an open face sardine sandwhich on rye bread with Danish mustard down to the barn. He took one look at it with big eyes & grabbed the whole thing out of my hands gobb

[IceHorses] Re: bolting

2007-11-21 Thread blessiowner
> Pamela...may I ask something, and if you don't want to answer, that's fine. > Have some people told you that incident was your fault? The reason I ask, > is that of all the years I've been involved with horses, I've NEVER seen > such a strong tendency to "blame the owner" or "blame the rider"

Re: [IceHorses] Re: bolting

2007-11-21 Thread Nancy Sturm
You are so right here Karen. Horses are reactive animals and stuff does happen, sometimes within our control (read dumb mistake) and sometimes outside our control. One of the women I ride with put a bottle of carbonated water on her saddle. Guess what happened after she decided, at the end of a t

RE: [IceHorses] Re: bolting

2007-11-21 Thread Karen Thomas
The only time Blessi took off on me was in the early days (although we had a lot of discussion early on about stopping from a walk). I had a brilliant idea to hook a water bottle off those neat eyelets on the Icelandic saddle. As I was half mounted in my typical klutzy manner, I knocked the

[IceHorses] Re: bolting

2007-11-21 Thread blessiowner
> >>Gunnar is Icelandic and his wife Stephanie is American. We did > briefly discuss horse bolting and not wanting to stop. He said in > Iceland all they want is for them to go and go really fast. A lot of > large farms with really great > competition riders never teach the horse to stop or stan