On 9/1/07, Robyn Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Janice,
> >>>Any horse that won't be fly sprayed at ten years is a
> horse that has gaps in ground training and some necessary handling was
> skipped..
>
> If you don't have flies and other biting bugs where you live then there may
> not be a ne
On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 10:47:34 -0700, you wrote:
>I think, Mic, that it may not be a big jump from icelandic style riding to
>the riding style used in GB, but that it's a huge jump to the US riding
>style from the ISRT.
So then classical riding isn't that popular in the US?
; )
>Maybe I will com
On 9/1/07, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
but i cannot for the life of me comprehend how this
> horse got to be ten years old and dances like a nut when you try to
> fly spray him. Any horse that won't be fly sprayed at ten years is a
> horse that has gaps in ground training and some
On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 06:17:09PM +0100, Mic Rushen wrote:
> >I think perhaps we are talking about different things. Are the "good
> >brakes" you are talking about occurring because the horse has a tight
> >noseband and the rider braces in the stirrups and pulls on the horse's mouth
> >with al
>>I don't think that the icelandic riding style is anywhere near how we ride
>>the horses here.
> Oh, I agree - but that's also changing. You only have to look at
> various websites from Iceland which now advertise horses which stand
> still on a loose rein to be mounted, tolerate the rider flap
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Robyn Schulze"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > HEY JUDY! Can you re-post that photo of the moron w/ the colt,
who's
> allowing said colt to not only have its front feet on the juy's
> shoulders, but is also biting the guy in the neck at the same time?
>
I saw
>I don't think that the icelandic riding style is anywhere near how we ride
>the horses here.
Oh, I agree - but that's also changing. You only have to look at
various websites from Iceland which now advertise horses which stand
still on a loose rein to be mounted, tolerate the rider flapping thei
On 9/1/07, Kim Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Mic Rushen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > That's a good idea, but having seen how much people can mess up
> babies
> > even before they are weaned ("Oh it's just soo cute when he
> > nibbles/kicks/rears u
> This sort of comment is just as much one of those "myths" as the ones
> that they need special saddles and bridles, they all tolt and they can
> carry 350lb people all day.
I don't think that the icelandic riding style is anywhere near how we ride
the horses here.
I think it's very obvious.
On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 07:52:40 -0700, you wrote:
>In Icelandic riding style, they need the horses to go fast from point A to
>point B. Knowing how to stop, turn, or be supple, or have functional
>movement is not important. The horses are disposable.
That may have been the case in Iceland 20 (or
>>And that is exactly why I bought babies! Then I know
>>they have been handled correctly, and if I make a
>>mistake, it is on me.
>
> That's a good idea, but having seen how much people can mess up babies
> even before they are weaned ("Oh it's just soo cute when he
> nibbles/kicks/rears
Hi Janice,
>>>Any horse that won't be fly sprayed at ten years is a
horse that has gaps in ground training and some necessary handling was
skipped..
If you don't have flies and other biting bugs where you live then there may
not be a need for a horse to be fly sprayed. Just different perspectiv
I have my A number one guy, my main horse jas, he was not taken from a
pasture til he was three and then abused for 30 days, dragged behind a
tractor, lashed in the face for spooking, beaten for being afraid.
Then I have my stonewall, orphaned foal, taken into the livingroom to
be bottle fed on the
On 9/1/07, Mic Rushen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> That's a good idea, but having seen how much people can mess up babies
> even before they are weaned ("Oh it's just soo cute when he
> nibbles/kicks/rears up and puts his feet on my shoulders" - yuck) it's
> not infallible.
>
> Mic
>
yes please, gimme a break too.
Janice--
yipie tie yie yo
Oh well, I was going to stay out of this because I don't raise foals and
because we had the good fortune of buying two young Icelandic mares that
were apparently mostly well handled.
However, I once bought a very fancy Section A Welsh pony for my grandson.
I'd probably had horses for 35+ years or
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Mic Rushen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's a good idea, but having seen how much people can mess up
babies
> even before they are weaned ("Oh it's just soo cute when he
> nibbles/kicks/rears up and puts his feet on my shoulders" - yuck)
it's
> not in
Me too. It's easier to start with a clean slate than a horse that
someone else has already messed up.
There are infinitely many combinations in the middle though, and when we are
talking to intelligent, caring horsesmen, there's no reason to limit the
discussions to either extreme - as I thi
Whoa! Wow how do you go from point A to point B in such a nasty
fashion sometimes Janice? I do not feel superior at all, so DO Not Put
words in my mouth via email.
Skye, SHEESH! You wrote "This is a perfect example of why not to over
handle foals in my opinion.." And you don't th
Maybe there is no such as thing as "over handling" foals. Could it
boil down to correct handling or incorrect handling?
Amen!
Karen Thomas, NC
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:35:11 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
>And that is exactly why I bought babies! Then I know
>they have been handled correctly, and if I make a
>mistake, it is on me.
That's a good idea, but having seen how much people can mess up babies
even before they are weaned ("Oh it's just s
--- Mic Rushen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>It's easier to start with a clean slate than a horse
that someone else has already messed up.<<
And that is exactly why I bought babies! Then I know
they have been handled correctly, and if I make a
mistake, it is on me.
Susan in NV
Nevermore Ra
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:30:19 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
>.however if I had a choice to purchase a 5 year old with
>improper handling, or one with very little to no handling, I would
>pick the later..at least I do not have to start off with
>correcting bad habits.
Me too. It's easier to start wit
> I agree with that. Proper handling is what I want in my
> foalshowever if I had a choice to purchase a 5 year old with
> improper handling, or one with very little to no handling, I would
> pick the later..at least I do not have to start off with
> correcting bad habits.
Correct.
How
--- Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> >>Could it boil down to correct handling or incorrect handling?
>
> > YES!
>
>
> That's reasonable.
>
> I don't think we want to give the public the impression that it's
> wrong to
> handle foals or that they should be left alone.
>
> For tw
>>Could it boil down to correct handling or incorrect handling?
> YES!
That's reasonable.
I don't think we want to give the public the impression that it's wrong to
handle foals or that they should be left alone.
For two reasons, it would be bad: for the humans and for the horse as it
wou
--- Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/31/07, Skye and Sally ~Fire Island
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > They all know to not push on me or threaten
> > other horses when I am around.
> >
> > This is a perfect example of why not to over handle foals in my
> > opinion..
>
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:40:28 -0700, you wrote:
>Could it boil down to correct handling or incorrect handling?
YES!
Mic
Mic (Michelle) Rushen
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Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itc
On 8/31/07, Skye and Sally ~Fire Island <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> They all know to not push on me or threaten
> other horses when I am around.
>
> This is a perfect example of why not to over handle foals in my
> opinion..
>
> Skye
>
i only have one that was an "over handled foal". T
> This is a perfect example of why not to over handle foals in my
> opinion..
Maybe there is no such as thing as "over handling" foals.
Could it boil down to correct handling or incorrect handling?
Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com
--- Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > then we have two 2003 filly and gelding (boarding) they where
> sent 1 monht training in June and then they where unhandled and
> unlead able thy where for one monht and are know lead
> I guess my pasture is boring or something! They always seem to want
> me to choose them and take them somewhere...
> janice--
> yipie tie yie yo
my pasture is somewhat over 800 acers so is not boring,but we have not either
handled this 2003 year very much just for deworming that is dun here
On 26/08/07, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> with all mine I am lucky if I can get rid of them in the pasture :) I
> have to yell and flap my arms around cause it makes me nervous with
> them all glommed around me so close cause then they start fighting
> over me and flattening ears a
On 8/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> then we have two 2003 filly and gelding (boarding) they where sent 1 monht
> training in June and then they where unhandled and unlead able thy where for
> one monht and are know leading in halter longeing and goes on a trailer you
> c
Hi Wanda
ok my stallion Hamar born in beginning of june 2003 was started january 2007
and was in training untill may when He was evaluated just for conformation as
he´s riding abilities was not ready ,natural tolter not trotting much...
He was Mentally ok and well muscled ,big 141 cm on whiters
In a message dated 8/25/2007 11:42:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My pony was not ready until this year. He was six in June. I think it
depends on the horse. I gelded him that helped some. He was silly before
that.
Sylvia
***
>
> >>> It is important for young horses to get familiar with humans as
> preparation for training. But trainers should be careful not to pet
> the
> horses too much or treat them too often with bread; otherwise they
> can
> become pushy.
>
> Hmm, that sounds like the same-old, same-old to me.
On 25/08/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Usually yes they are started at the 5 yo old winter when you are not in a
> hurry and it´s common that you take your 4 yo in one monht or two
> and as they are very unhandled it take´s them 2 -3 week just to get longed
> and somewhat use
Hi Robyn,Hi List
Usually yes they are started at the 5 yo old winter when you are not in a hurry
and it´s common that you take your 4 yo in one monht or two
and as they are very unhandled it take´s them 2 -3 week just to get longed and
somewhat used to humans. But when you want to evaluat them
I Vicka,
>>>a horse considered ready to train is a coming five-year-old.
That is what I thought for a long time but when they are evaluating horses
when they are 4 years old they are generally starting them the winter before
which makes it the horses 4th winter but they are just coming four the ne
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 09:54:14 -0400, you wrote:
>> Hmm, that sounds like the same-old, same-old to me.
>
>yes, this is obviously a very basic page written by a non-native english
>speaker, outlining the basics in a short space.
>
And also written in a general "touristy" magazine as well, for
non
On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 12:31:59PM -0400, Karen Thomas wrote:
> >>> Training usually begins when the horse is four winters old.
>
> Ima will soon be "four winters old". I call that 3.5 though and I'm not
> planning to start her any time soon, at least not under saddle.
a horse considered ready
I would too (call it 3.5 years) and that is where I guess I may have
misunderstood the timing of training. We don't start riding them until they
are at least 4 and have never had it be a problem if they are 5 or 6 or
whatever age. I think it must have to do a lot with the economics of
keepin
Hi Karen
>>>Ima will soon be "four winters old". I call that 3.5 though and I'm not
planning to start her any time soon, at least not under saddle.
I would too (call it 3.5 years) and that is where I guess I may have
misunderstood the timing of training. We don't start riding them until they
a
You can view the video of this article here:
http://www.icelandreview.com/icelandreview/upload/files/multimedia/multi_horses_14.05.07.wmv
Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com
>>> Training usually begins when the horse is four winters old.
Ima will soon be "four winters old". I call that 3.5 though and I'm not
planning to start her any time soon, at least not under saddle. She's had a
saddle on her back and a bit in her mouth, just playing though. She's ready
for gro
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