Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIG] [OT] Sarovar, Fairplay, Apple

2004-04-19 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Eswar wrote: listBusiness is War and i will use all means to win in it, Fair or unfair...[This is why i never own a business :)] I agree that business is war! But the kind of means I use is important. I need to play within the rules - if I dont, i should be corrected/punished/prosecuted.

[ilugd] kget kahan hai (was) Re: Download managers in Linux

2004-04-19 Thread R.Vijayaraghavan
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 02:36:46 +0530, Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Surendra Verma wrote: there is a downloader manager program in kde and many would be familiar with it with many advanced features.i am using kdenetwork-kget for downloading and have downloaded files as

Re: [ilugd] Fedora Problems...

2004-04-19 Thread Sudev Barar
On Mon, 2004-04-19 at 10:08, Linux wrote: [SNIP] One more problem I am facing after upgrading Linux 7.3 to Fedora Core is that Serial mouse in my pc is not working. Seems to be no reason. But if you can describe the [Pointer] section of /etc/X11/XF86Config then may be some help canbe

[ilugd] Gnome2.6

2004-04-19 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Can anybody tell me,How to install GNOME2.6 in Fedora core 1 without using the GARNOME ? regards Pankaj Kumar __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash

Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIG] [OT] Sarovar, Fairplay, Apple

2004-04-19 Thread .jareeN.
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004, Eswar wrote: Business is War and i will use all means to win in it, Fair or unfair...[This is why i never own a business :)] I think killing somebody is correct also... because everything is fair in business... lawyer is correct in defending criminals because its his

Re: [ilugd] kget kahan hai (was) Re: Download managers in Linux

2004-04-19 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
R.Vijayaraghavan wrote: tried apt-get and this is what i got (i may be doing something wrong here). where do I get kget from. [EMAIL PROTECTED] sandip]$ rpm -qf `which kget` kdenetwork-3.1-5 - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya sandip (at) puroga.com Puroga Technologies Pvt. Ltd. Work:

Re: [ilugd] april ilug-d meet

2004-04-19 Thread Ankur Rohatgi
Some of the stuff i talked about at the meet can be found at : The animated LILO - http://www.gamers.org/~quinet/lilo Quickswitch - http://www.muthanna.com/quickswitch Superkaramba - http://netdragon.sourceforge.net Karamba Applications - http://www.kde-look.org Have fun , - Ankur.

Re: [ilugd] Gnome2.6

2004-04-19 Thread Narsingh Sahu
--- Pankaj Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anybody tell me,How to install GNOME2.6 in Fedora core 1 without using the GARNOME ? Check out the Gnome site. It tells you the order in which the individual packages are to be installed as also the prerequisites. -- narsingh

[ilugd] Re: [LIG] [OT] Sarovar, Fairplay, Apple

2004-04-19 Thread Rahul Kumar
Viksit Gaur wrote: Hmm.. Just some thoughts.. Suppose my company (i dont work for any, btw :) has spent a million bucks in developing and promoting a technology, would I like it if someone was to develop something which circumvents my security measures and possibly eat into

[ilugd] The Pitfalls of Linux

2004-04-19 Thread arundeep Singh
read this and u people will think about it. http://www.smxinfo.com/articles/editor/linuxpit.htm = Arundeep Singh, M.Tech (IS), IIIT Allahabad, U.P, India. ph: 09415262466, 09417066713 http://www.i-cognition.com Don't take life seriously, as you can't come out of it alive.

Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIG] [OT] Sarovar, Fairplay, Apple

2004-04-19 Thread Rahul Kumar
From: Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think you're missing the important point here -- stealing music is illegal, but providing tools that MAY be used to steal music isn't. Raj. My question here is : what if the tool is very specifically created to steal music, and is also promoted as such. I

[ilugd] [Fwd: ILUG-D: Contact Us]

2004-04-19 Thread Nishikant Kapoor
Original Message Subject: ILUG-D: Contact Us From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message from Sameer Gemini: i was not working on my Red Hat Linux since a month? Now it was not accepting administrative pwd? how to find the solution plz help?

Re: [ilugd] At Last we got our T-Shirts!!!

2004-04-19 Thread Amit Sharma
vivek ji, ek 42 size t-shirt dena pls. ;) amit --- Gurpreet Sachdeva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   At Last we got our ILUG-D 'T'-Shirts. Thanks a ton to Vivek... BR, GSS ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [ilugd] The Pitfalls of Linux

2004-04-19 Thread Ankur Rohatgi
On 04/19/2004 03:58 PM, arundeep Singh wrote: read this and u people will think about it. I dont think something written about the TCO of Linux in the end of 2001 really applies today. Funny how he is calling Linux for embedded systems a passing fad. Sounds like a typical disgruntled

Re: [ilugd] [Fwd: ILUG-D: Contact Us]

2004-04-19 Thread Sudeep Sharma
hi u can do one of the following either 1) use bootable cd of any linux distribution and go to rescue mode and change passwd of root by giving command # passwd root or 2) if u have installed grub in ur machine when starting up the machine press 'e gp tp the edit mode and on the second line of

Re: [ilugd] april ilug-d meet ..some modification

2004-04-19 Thread anindya chakraborty
not anindya sen but slightly bigger anindya chakraborty :))   On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 linuxlingam wrote : twelve hot chocolate fudges at nirula's ice-cream parlour. sirtaj, the famous KDE developer, had two. all this after a delicious chinese dinner at Yo! China at Priya Complex, in vasant vihar.

Re: [ilugd] At Last we got our T-Shirts!!! - Vivek K.

2004-04-19 Thread Viksit Gaur
Vivek! Never got a reply from you offlist :) Thought I'd give you a reminder..! Regards, = -- Viksit Gaur http://www.viksit.com me[at]viksit.com viksit[at]linux-delhi[dot]org 'Not all who wander are lost.' - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of

Re: [ilugd] [Fwd: ILUG-D: Contact Us]

2004-04-19 Thread MUKESH
dear frnd if u hav not set grub passwd then reboot the system and select linux then press c then select the middle of three options and type linux single and press enter the linux will now start in single user mode i.e. admin mode type passwd and press enter then it will ask 4 your new passwd type

Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIG] [OT] Sarovar, Fairplay, Apple

2004-04-19 Thread Viksit Gaur
Hey! My question here is : what if the tool is very specifically created to steal music, and is also promoted as such. I doubt that MAY was applicable here. Pls educate me -- what other uses was that tool for, what did he promote it as ... was it accidentally used by *everyone* to rip

[ilugd] (fwd) [SECURITY] [DSA 492-1] New iproute packages fix denial of service

2004-04-19 Thread Raj Mathur
[Please upgrade iproute on all distributions -- Raju] This is an RFC 1153 digest. (1 message) -- Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Full-Disclosure]

Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIG] [OT] Sarovar, Fairplay, Apple

2004-04-19 Thread Raj Shekhar
Rahul Kumar wrote: From: Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think you're missing the important point here -- stealing music is illegal, but providing tools that MAY be used to steal music isn't. Raj. My question here is : what if the tool is very specifically created to steal music, and is also

Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIG] [OT] Sarovar, Fairplay, Apple

2004-04-19 Thread Varun Varma
Sanjeev Ghane Gupta wrote: snip Please, folks, we jump on people who post technical questions without googling. Why not google before one discusses the law? Because everyone in this discussion, with you as the only notable exception, has taken a moral position on the topic, instead of a legal

[ilugd] Re: [OT] Sarovar, Fairplay, Apple

2004-04-19 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2004-04-20 01:02:05 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You buy a K.L.Saigal song from iTunes [...and convert it to MP3]. Is it not an example of fair use? No. It is not. If you are using fair use as the Doctrine of Fair Use, in copyright law, this is not fair use. It may not be, but

Re: [ilugd] Re: [OT] Sarovar, Fairplay, Apple

2004-04-19 Thread linuxlingam
great to see the number of 'experts' on cyber laws voicing their 'expert' 'analysis' on this topic. i thought we'd do something meaningful, doable, about this. Self-whisper from The Matrix: Focus, Trinity! :-) LL ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL

Re: [ilugd] april ilug-d meet ..some modification

2004-04-19 Thread komal
- Original Message - From: anindya chakraborty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [ilugd] april ilug-d meet ..some modification not anindya sen but slightly bigger anindya chakraborty :)) snip stop

[ilugd] Re: [OT] Sarovar, Fairplay, Apple

2004-04-19 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2004-04-20 00:33:56 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i thought we'd do something meaningful, doable, about this. And, er, what exactly is stopping you from doing something meaningful? -- ams ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIG] [OT] Sarovar, Fairplay, Apple

2004-04-19 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Varun Varma wrote: If anyone feels strongly about changing copyright and/or IP laws, please file PILs or petitions to your local political representatives or relevant judicial review panels. What is going on here is just the first step of such a thing. You cant just go ahead and file a

[ilugd] Minutes of ILUD April 18,2004 meeting

2004-04-19 Thread Raj Shekhar
The meeting started with a discussion of Apple's notice to sarovar.org to remove PlayFair from their server. Apple has filed a complaint under the provisions of Indian Information Technology Act, 2000 and the Copyright Act, 1957. ( More about the Copyright Law

Re: Re: [ilugd] not got my T-Shirts!!!

2004-04-19 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
tell me how you got ur t-shirt Contact the T-Shirt Man... Vivek Khurana...offline or online. You may ask him for the availability of the same... If you have already paid for that, you will be given precedence, and if not, you need to pay Rs. 175/- (Pretty decent and reasonable for a awesome

[ilugd] flash mob computing !

2004-04-19 Thread linuxlingam
who said flash mob computing is fizzling itself out? here's the latest status: 1) kishore makes a pragmatic suggestion: choose a location where we have existing dozens of pc with infrastructure like power, backup, ac, network, etc. we had volunteers here devoting their sites. kishore recommends

Re: [ilugd] KDE+GNOME+Enlightenment+TWM

2004-04-19 Thread linuxlingam
On Mon, 2004-04-19 at 06:09, Raj Mathur wrote: You need to enable GDM (or whatever Display Manager you're using) on multiple X sessions. Then you can start one X session with KDE, another with Gnome, etc. For gdm, edit /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf and uncomment the line near the bottom that

Re: [ilugd] flash mob computing !

2004-04-19 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
linuxlingam wrote: some tests done by flashmobbers showed problems in the nodes actually 'subtracting' rather than 'adding' computing power. unfortunately, vivek khurana, on whose shoulders the history of this moment is to rest, was missing during this discussion. so we could have discussed

[ilugd] slashdot sarovar

2004-04-19 Thread linuxlingam
dear raj, i assume you made good friends with slashdot's editor, roblimo. could you send him an email on the sarovar controversy? ? LL ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at:

Re: [ilugd] flash mob computing !

2004-04-19 Thread linuxlingam
On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 02:27, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: I have a suggestion. Why dont you folks go to http://lap.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/view/Main/WebHome and start off a page on the flahmob supercomputing status,] LL, why dont you start out the top level page for the project, er..

Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIG] [OT] Sarovar, Fairplay, Apple

2004-04-19 Thread Varun Varma
Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: Sigh...I would venture to guess this is what AMS had in mind while requesting [actually, demanding] that this thread be discontinued. The debate has already ventured into the territory of loud and fanatic shouting based on assumptions that-you-know-better-than-I-what

Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIG] [OT] Sarovar, Fairplay, Apple

2004-04-19 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Varun, First of all let me apologize because my reply appeared to be solely on the basis of your statements - which was not my intention. I was not only replying to your mail but also earlier replies in the thread that you in turn had replied to. Note: After I read the rest of your mail

Re: [ilugd] slashdot sarovar

2004-04-19 Thread Raj Mathur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 LL == linuxlingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LL dear raj, i assume you made good friends with slashdot's LL editor, roblimo. could you send him an email on the sarovar LL controversy? I really don't want to do anything until the status

Re: [ilugd] flash mob computing !

2004-04-19 Thread Raj Mathur
LL == linuxlingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LL On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 02:27, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: I have a suggestion. Why dont you folks go to http://lap.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/view/Main/WebHome and start off a page on the flahmob supercomputing status,] LL,

[ilugd] (fwd) [ GLSA 200404-15 ] XChat 2.0.x SOCKS5 Vulnerability

2004-04-19 Thread Raj Mathur
[Please upgrade if you use XChat through SOCKS5 on any platform -- Raju] This is an RFC 1153 digest. (1 message) -- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol=application/pgp-signature;

[ilugd] [Fwd: [Fsf-friends] Call the bluff]

2004-04-19 Thread Raj Shekhar
-- / \__ (@\___Raj Shekhar / O My home : http://geocities.com/lunatech3007/ / (_/My blog : http://lunatech.journalspace.com/ /_/ U ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [ilugd] flash mob computing !

2004-04-19 Thread vivek khurana
--- linuxlingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: who said flash mob computing is fizzling itself out? here's the latest status: 1) kishore makes a pragmatic suggestion: choose a location where we have existing dozens of pc with infrastructure like power, backup, ac, network, etc. we had

Re: [ilugd] flash mob computing !

2004-04-19 Thread vivek khurana
--- linuxlingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 02:27, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: I have a suggestion. Why dont you folks go to http://lap.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/view/Main/WebHome and start off a page on the flahmob supercomputing status,] LL, why dont you

[ilugd] Re: [OT] Sarovar, Fairplay, Apple

2004-04-19 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2004-04-20 01:25:44 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cant say this emphatically enough - ILUGD is not just about how to use Linux, it is also about how we sustain the techno-social environment in which Linux and the GNU movement came about in the first place. If you must put it that

[ilugd] Linux Presentation

2004-04-19 Thread Ritesh Agrawal
Hi All, Any one has Powerpoint presentation or links showing linux's plus points (sclablity,security,stablity etc etc) , some graphical representation of survey reports and some organizations case studies ? from where i can access latest survey reports related to linux's performance and cost