Re: Weird hard drive noises

2010-02-20 Thread Robert Pangrazio
When I was in college a design group I was in built a usb composite keyboard/mouse. IIRC it took up one address slot. Now it used the HID specification for both, so we created one HID device that could input keys and have mouse functions, so I don't know how an integrated hub would be as it is a

Re: Weird hard drive noises

2010-02-20 Thread Christian Wacker
I have never run across a multimedia keyboard that takes up four device slots :\ I don't mean physical USB ports, it is seen as 4 devices by the OS. -- -Proudly Sent from a Windows PC -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple

Re: Weird hard drive noises

2010-02-20 Thread Kasey Smith
On Feb 19, 2010, at 8:37 AM, Christian Wacker wrote: I have never run across a multimedia keyboard that takes up four device slots :\ I don't mean physical USB ports, it is seen as 4 devices by the OS. I didn't mean USB plugs either, my wireless combo here with a keyboard (with

Re: Weird hard drive noises

2010-02-19 Thread Christian Wacker
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: On 2/17/10 6:03 PM, Elliott Price wrote: Haha, I like that idea. That should be my goal over next summer. :) My iMac has 3 USB ports, does that mean 127 keyboards per port, or is that the total number that USB will

Re: Weird hard drive noises

2010-02-19 Thread Kasey Smith
On Feb 17, 2010, at 8:59 PM, Christian Wacker wrote: Unless you use a few of these http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/cambrionix-49-port-usb-hub-for- professionals-nerds/ I know the G3 iMacs have a bus per port (Wish my PC had that... it'd be a bit easier on the drain when I use some more

Re: Weird hard drive noises

2010-02-17 Thread The M
Never mind guys, I am now able to use my keyboard so I will nit bootnit up and forget that I don't have a keyboard. Thanks! Sorry if seemed stupid. I was just trying to figure out why that hard drive was acting strange. Thanks again. One mans trash is another mans treasure. In my case, this

Re: Weird hard drive noises

2010-02-17 Thread Christian Wacker
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com wrote: or you could push the USB bus to the limit and plug in 127 keyboards! :D Technically, You'd need USB hubs to interconnect those keyboards, but, there's 2 physical controllers on the iMacs, so wouldn't it be double that,

Re: Weird hard drive noises

2010-02-17 Thread Elliott Price
I'm just wondering how you'd plug in that last .4 of a keyboard... -Elliott Price Quoit - Macintosh Computer Services hobbittech.com/quoit On Feb 16, 2010, at 10:13 PM, Christian Wacker wrote: On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com wrote: or you could

Re: Weird hard drive noises

2010-02-17 Thread Clark Martin
On 2/17/10 12:56 PM, Elliott Price wrote: I'm just wondering how you'd plug in that last .4 of a keyboard... Same as any other, provided the USB cable is on that part of the keyboard. If it isn't then, well, you're just going to have to round down and make do with only 110 keyboards.

Re: Weird hard drive noises

2010-02-17 Thread Elliott Price
Haha, I like that idea. That should be my goal over next summer. :) My iMac has 3 USB ports, does that mean 127 keyboards per port, or is that the total number that USB will recognize? -Elliott Price Quoit - Macintosh Computer Services hobbittech.com/quoit On Feb 17, 2010, at 5:22

Re: Weird hard drive noises

2010-02-17 Thread Clark Martin
On 2/17/10 6:03 PM, Elliott Price wrote: Haha, I like that idea. That should be my goal over next summer. :) My iMac has 3 USB ports, does that mean 127 keyboards per port, or is that the total number that USB will recognize? First, it's not 127. USB allows for 127 devices. But that

Re: Weird hard drive noises

2010-02-16 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 15, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Mike Styer wrote: Well, I'm not that new. I am a computer expert in parts, but I don't know all of the specifics of mac computers. I know ALOT about Windoz computers though. Well, then to quote Firesign Theatre Everything you know, is wrong! :-) There are

Re: Weird hard drive noises

2010-02-15 Thread Mike Styer
The reason that One mans trash is another mans treasure. In my case, this happens to be with old Macs :) On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:50 AM, tyltotheler92 tyltothele...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, If you have a Western Digital Hard Drive inside in that iMac, that problem will arise. There is an issue

Re: Weird hard drive noises

2010-02-15 Thread Mike Styer
The reason that I will sleep my iMac during boot is that I sometimes will have to use my keyboard and mouse for other computers and I'll forget that there's no keyboard or mouse so I'll sleep it during boot. As far as I know, it is the stock internal drive. Is it safe to replace a hard drive on

Re: Weird hard drive noises

2010-02-15 Thread Bill Chapman
'sleep while booting up'... yeah right sounds like this guy is pranking... Clark Martin wrote: On 2/14/10 3:34 PM, Mike Styer wrote: Sometimes I will sleep my iMac G3 350mHz 10.3 panther and it will sleep fine for a few seconds. But the hard drive will then rev up, coast, and then

Re: Weird hard drive noises

2010-02-15 Thread Mike Styer
Well, I am in a situation where I don't have a keyboard for my iMac. I forgot that I didn't have a keyboard and my mac is glitchy (I can't turn it off through a menu or it will restart itself). I did not feel like forcing it to turn off by holding the power button in, so I put it to sleep

Re: Weird hard drive noises

2010-02-15 Thread Mike Styer
To be more clear, I mean that the finder and GUI are still loading. I do nit mean that I am trying to sleep while on the apple logo or somthing like that. One mans trash is another mans treasure. In my case, this happens to be with old Macs :) On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Bill Chapman

Re: Weird hard drive noises

2010-02-15 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 15, 2010, at 10:18 AM, Mike Styer wrote: Well, I am in a situation where I don't have a keyboard for my iMac. I forgot that I didn't have a keyboard and my mac is glitchy (I can't turn it off through a menu or it will restart itself). I did not feel like forcing it to turn off by

Re: Weird hard drive noises

2010-02-15 Thread Mike Styer
No problem Bill. Anyway, I was sleeping it because I had te urge to use it, started it up and then realized that I didn't have a keyboard for it at the moment :) anyway, does anyone know why the HD might rev up during sleep mode? BTW, I just checked in system profiler and it is actually a

Re: Weird hard drive noises

2010-02-15 Thread Elliott Price
Just a couple of things: It's probably not a good idea to sleep it before it's fully loaded, just wait a few seconds for everything to load, and then put it to sleep if you're not going to use it. Like others have said, that just happens with some HD's in those iMacs. My little brother had an

Re: Weird hard drive noises

2010-02-15 Thread Mike Styer
Yeah, your probably right... Anyway, is it hard to swap the hard drive of an iMac G3 slot loader? And more importantly, is it dangerous? One mans trash is another mans treasure. In my case, this happens to be with old Macs :) On Feb 15, 2010, at 3:10 PM, Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com

Re: Weird hard drive noises

2010-02-15 Thread Elliott Price
Nope, and nope. There's four screws on the underside, then 6 or so screws on the RF shield, then 4 on the HD. Here's a fairly decent one, it starts on page 18: http://www.scribd.com/doc/103447/iMac-G3-Disassembly-Guide A couple of things: Be careful with the tabs on front, I haven't found a

Re: Weird hard drive noises

2010-02-15 Thread Christian Wacker
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Mike Styer mstye...@yahoo.com wrote: The reason that I will sleep my iMac during boot is that I sometimes will have to use my keyboard and mouse for other computers and I'll forget that there's no keyboard or mouse so I'll sleep it during boot. As far as I

Re: Weird hard drive noises

2010-02-15 Thread Bill Chapman
You said you're new to mac?... fyi re keyboards and such, on usb-macs they're 'hot-pluggable', so don't panic if you start up without a keyboard or mouse attached which is what i do occasionally (i have a 4-mac lan, and every few months swap in my G3 iMac in place of my G4 powerbook and also

Weird hard drive noises

2010-02-14 Thread Mike Styer
Sometimes I will sleep my iMac G3 350mHz 10.3 panther and it will sleep fine for a few seconds. But the hard drive will then rev up, coast, and then repeat. I think this only happens when I sleep it while it is booting up. Does anyone have any idea why this nights happen? One mans trash is

Re: Weird hard drive noises

2010-02-14 Thread Clark Martin
On 2/14/10 3:34 PM, Mike Styer wrote: Sometimes I will sleep my iMac G3 350mHz 10.3 panther and it will sleep fine for a few seconds. But the hard drive will then rev up, coast, and then repeat. I think this only happens when I sleep it while it is booting up. Does anyone have any idea why this

Re: Weird hard drive noises

2010-02-14 Thread tyltotheler92
Hi, If you have a Western Digital Hard Drive inside in that iMac, that problem will arise. There is an issue with certain firmware versioins on the slot loader iMac G3s that would conflict with 6-80gb Western Digital Caviar HDs. Has this hard drive been replaced at any time? You may want to look