On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
> >>It will make remote host sending message to sendmail & cyrus pair responsible
> >>for generating the bounce message (in format beyond our control).
> >
> > Right -- this doesn't satisfy the definition or reject.
>
> But it satisfy definition of usefulln
Rob Siemborski wrote:
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
In any case, it is unclear what could usefully be done with this, as
reject guarantees that an MDN will be sent, which SMTP error codes do not
do.
It will make remote host sending message to sendmail & cyrus pair responsible
for genera
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
> > In any case, it is unclear what could usefully be done with this, as
> > reject guarantees that an MDN will be sent, which SMTP error codes do not
> > do.
>
> It will make remote host sending message to sendmail & cyrus pair responsible
> for generating
Rob Siemborski wrote:
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
Now if I get any message with a RCPT TO of "me+spam" it will be rejected
if the first test is ignored, even if it shouldn't be.
Let me apply what I suggested to your example:
first rule uses data not available at "RCPT TO:" stage => "
Igor Brezac wrote:
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
Igor Brezac wrote:
[...]
This would be nice, but as much as sendmail 'abuses' these maps I wonder
if busier sites would be able to use such maps.
Current sendmail.cf can ask up to 7 virtusertable queries but who said we have
to use maps a
Ken Murchison wrote:
Rob Siemborski wrote:
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
- What would the map name be? cyrus? Would it ever change? Can
people
envision different types of maps that this daemon would have to
support?
"cyrus" seems to be good default name.
Let us start with "mai
Rob Siemborski wrote:
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
- What would the map name be? cyrus? Would it ever change? Can people
envision different types of maps that this daemon would have to support?
"cyrus" seems to be good default name.
Let us start with "mailbox presence" checking.
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
> Igor Brezac wrote:
> > On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Rob Siemborski wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >- What would the map name be? cyrus? Would it ever change? Can people
> >envisi
Igor Brezac wrote:
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
Rob Siemborski wrote:
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
- What would the map name be? cyrus? Would it ever change? Can people
envision different types of maps that this daemon would have to support?
"cyrus" seems to be good
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
> > Now if I get any message with a RCPT TO of "me+spam" it will be rejected
> > if the first test is ignored, even if it shouldn't be.
>
> Let me apply what I suggested to your example:
> first rule uses data not available at "RCPT TO:" stage => "envelope
Rob Siemborski wrote:
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
Would not it be posiible to interpet only heading sieve rules which reject
message based on info available at "RCPT TO:" point ?
First "non reject" or "need information not available yet" sieve rule would
stop "envelope based" sieve r
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
> Would not it be posiible to interpet only heading sieve rules which reject
> message based on info available at "RCPT TO:" point ?
> First "non reject" or "need information not available yet" sieve rule would
> stop "envelope based" sieve rules interpreta
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
> Rob Siemborski wrote:
> > On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
> >
> >>>- What would the map name be? cyrus? Would it ever change? Can people
> >>>envision different types of maps that this daemon would have to support?
> >>
> >>"cyrus" seems to be
Rob Siemborski wrote:
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
- What would the map name be? cyrus? Would it ever change? Can people
envision different types of maps that this daemon would have to support?
"cyrus" seems to be good default name.
Let us start with "mailbox presence" checking.
I a
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
> > - What would the map name be? cyrus? Would it ever change? Can people
> > envision different types of maps that this daemon would have to support?
>
> "cyrus" seems to be good default name.
> Let us start with "mailbox presence" checking.
I agree.
Ken Murchison wrote:
Igor Brezac wrote:
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
Igor Brezac wrote:
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
Igor Brezac wrote:
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
[...]
I also thought that "virtusertable like" solutions [periodic dump
of cyrus
mailbo
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Rob Siemborski wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Igor Brezac wrote:
>
>
> > > - Is the key always the RCPT TO address, including +detail info, or does
> > > Sendmail strip this before doing the map lookup?
> >
> > You need to process whatever the protocol passes to the server. A
>
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Igor Brezac wrote:
> > - Is the key always the RCPT TO address, including +detail info, or does
> > Sendmail strip this before doing the map lookup?
>
> You need to process whatever the protocol passes to the server. A
> question might be, how is cyrus going to respond when +
PM
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Subject: Re: sendmail-8.12.6+cyrus-imapd-2.0.17: check presence of the
cyrus mailbox during establishing SMTP connection
Igor Brezac wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
>
>
>>Igor Brezac wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Andrze
I am including cyrus-devel to this discussion:
> I could probably write this service in a couple hours given its
> simplicity, but I have a few of questions:
Cool!
> - What would the map name be? cyrus?
I would make this a param setting. You can default to 'cyrus', but I
imagine most people
Igor Brezac wrote:
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
Igor Brezac wrote:
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
Igor Brezac wrote:
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
[...]
I also thought that "virtusertable like" solutions [periodic dump of cyrus
mailbox data into existing s
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
> Igor Brezac wrote:
> > On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Igor Brezac wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
> >>>[...]
> >>>
> I also thought that "virtusertable like" solutions [periodic dump of cyrus
> mail
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Rob Siemborski wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Ken Murchison wrote:
>
> > > In my opinion it is better if it does more than just the mbox
> > > verification. I'd like to see the quota check as well. I am not sure if
> > > the "map protocol" allows for multiple return codes rath
Igor Brezac wrote:
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
Igor Brezac wrote:
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
[...]
I also thought that "virtusertable like" solutions [periodic dump of cyrus
mailbox data into existing sendmail databases] are the best but most people
had wanted "real ti
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Ken Murchison wrote:
> > In my opinion it is better if it does more than just the mbox
> > verification. I'd like to see the quota check as well. I am not sure if
> > the "map protocol" allows for multiple return codes rather than just
> > yes/no type answer. Then there is t
Igor Brezac wrote:
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
Igor Brezac wrote:
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
[...]
I also thought that "virtusertable like" solutions [periodic dump of cyrus
mailbox data into existing sendmail databases] are the best but most people
had wanted "real t
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
> Igor Brezac wrote:
> > On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
> > [...]
> >>I also thought that "virtusertable like" solutions [periodic dump of cyrus
> >>mailbox data into existing sendmail databases] are the best but most people
> >>had wanted "real
Gary Mills wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 01:57:01AM -, Mike Brodbelt wrote:
>
> Sendmail has a mailer flag, usually associated with the `local' mailer,
> but one that could be associated with the `cyrus' mailer. When this
> flag is present, sendmail will look up the recipient in a database
Igor Brezac wrote:
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
[...]
I also thought that "virtusertable like" solutions [periodic dump of cyrus
mailbox data into existing sendmail databases] are the best but most people
had wanted "real time" synchronization.
True, this would be a long way of doing th
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 01:57:01AM -, Mike Brodbelt wrote:
>
> FWIW, my interest in it isn't for authentication, but rather as spam
> control. At the moment, we get a lot of junk addressed to bogus users in
> our domain. This is accepted by sendmail, which then tries to deliver it
> to Cyrus.
> On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 06:35:31PM +0100, Andrzej Filip wrote:
>> Mike Brodbelt wrote:
>>
>> There are two alternative approaches I can think of right now:
>> 1) custom milter
>> [servicing only "RCPT TO:"]
>> 2) socket map
>> [ available in 8.13 preview
>> http://www.sendmail.org/8.13.0.PreAlpha
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
> Igor Brezac wrote:
> > On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
> >>Mike Brodbelt wrote:
> >>>A Clockwork Orange wrote:
> sendmail-8.12.6+cyrus-imapd-2.0.17
>
> I'd like sendmail to check presence of the cyrus mailbox during
> establishi
Igor Brezac wrote:
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
Mike Brodbelt wrote:
A Clockwork Orange wrote:
sendmail-8.12.6+cyrus-imapd-2.0.17
I'd like sendmail to check presence of the cyrus mailbox during
establishing SMTP connection.
If the cyrus mailbox doesn't present sendmail drops SMTP conne
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 06:35:31PM +0100, Andrzej Filip wrote:
> Mike Brodbelt wrote:
> >
> >If there are any better ways to achieve the same end, I'd also be
> >interested.
>
> There are two alternative approaches I can think of right now:
> 1) custom milter
> [servicing only "RCPT TO:"]
> 2) soc
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Andrzej Filip wrote:
> Mike Brodbelt wrote:
> > A Clockwork Orange wrote:
> >
> >>sendmail-8.12.6+cyrus-imapd-2.0.17
> >>
> >>I'd like sendmail to check presence of the cyrus mailbox during
> >>establishing SMTP connection.
> >>If the cyrus mailbox doesn't present sendmail dro
Mike Brodbelt wrote:
A Clockwork Orange wrote:
sendmail-8.12.6+cyrus-imapd-2.0.17
I'd like sendmail to check presence of the cyrus mailbox during
establishing SMTP connection.
If the cyrus mailbox doesn't present sendmail drops SMTP connection
(doesn't recieve email).
What have i to write in send
A Clockwork Orange wrote:
> Hello,
>
> sendmail-8.12.6+cyrus-imapd-2.0.17
>
> I'd like sendmail to check presence of the cyrus mailbox during
> establishing SMTP connection.
> If the cyrus mailbox doesn't present sendmail drops SMTP connection
> (doesn't recieve email).
> What have i to write in s
Hello,
sendmail-8.12.6+cyrus-imapd-2.0.17
I'd like sendmail to check presence of the cyrus
mailbox during establishing SMTP connection.
If the cyrus mailbox doesn't present sendmail
drops SMTP connection (doesn't recieve email).
What have i to write in sendmail.mc
file?
Thanks in adva
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