[info-tech] linux and wireless

2009-02-11 Thread Mark Walz
I thought I'd share this since we were talking about linux and wireless the other day. Decided to move my laptop over to opensuse 11 last night. It has one of the Broadcom cards in it that have always been hard to get going. But with the newest kernel, it comes with drivers for all the

[info-tech] Fw: Tech Meetings

2009-02-11 Thread Scott Fosseen
FYI: I have a vendor that would like to do a presentation or two at a future Tech Meeting. Below is a list of topics that they can cover. Please review the different items then visit this link http://www.doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=7pqq74wxbn3bmwaw And vote for the two you would

RE: [info-tech] Fw: Tech Meetings

2009-02-11 Thread Frerichs, Chad
Scott, It only lets me pick 1. Chad Frerichs Director Of Technology Okoboji Community Schools Milford, IA 51351 -Original Message- From: Scott Fosseen [mailto:sfoss...@aea8.k12.ia.us] Sent: February 11, 2009 10:11 AM To: Info-Tech Subject: [info-tech] Fw: Tech Meetings

RE: [info-tech] Fw: Tech Meetings

2009-02-11 Thread Mueller, Mitch
Yeah I was wondering about that. Any word on what is going to happen this month for a tech meeting? From: info-tech-ow...@aea8.k12.ia.us [mailto:info-tech-ow...@aea8.k12.ia.us] On Behalf Of Frerichs, Chad Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:16 AM To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us Subject: RE:

Re: [info-tech] Fw: Tech Meetings

2009-02-11 Thread Scott Fosseen
I saw that. Just vote twice then. From: Frerichs, Chad Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:16 AM To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us Subject: RE: [info-tech] Fw: Tech Meetings Scott, It only lets me pick 1. Chad Frerichs Director Of Technology Okoboji Community Schools Milford, IA 51351

[info-tech] Updating Computers

2009-02-11 Thread Mueller, Mitch
How do you guys keep your computers up to date. Teacher computers and student computers. I sent out instructions how to specifically how to up date your computers but our principal does not want them to do it. Please give me advice on what you do because for me to go around and manually do

RE: [info-tech] Updating Computers [Spam score:8%]

2009-02-11 Thread Mark Walz
If they are windows computers I just use Group Policy and WSUS. From: info-tech-ow...@aea8.k12.ia.us [mailto:info-tech-ow...@aea8.k12.ia.us] On Behalf Of Mueller, Mitch Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:30 PM To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us Subject: [info-tech] Updating Computers [Spam

Re: [info-tech] Updating Computers

2009-02-11 Thread Jackie Fonley
I have the building principals collect the teacher laptops in the summer at checkout--and then have those done in a 2 week period or thereabouts so they can have them back to work with. This year I also collected them overnight/over the weekend and ran updates during December. Student

RE: [info-tech] Updating Computers

2009-02-11 Thread Mueller, Mitch
Ok. But how about like all the updates that are released throughout the school year. What do you do than. From: info-tech-ow...@aea8.k12.ia.us [mailto:info-tech-ow...@aea8.k12.ia.us] On Behalf Of Jackie Fonley Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:40 PM To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us Subject:

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2009-02-11 Thread Frerichs, Chad
I'm with Mark. GP and WSUS. Chad Frerichs Director Of Technology Okoboji Community Schools Milford, IA 51351 -Original Message- From: Mark Walz [mailto:mw...@lemars.k12.ia.us] Sent: February 11, 2009 12:31 PM To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us Subject: RE: [info-tech] Updating Computers

RE: [info-tech] Updating Computers [Spam score:8%]

2009-02-11 Thread Mueller, Mitch
Well I was going to try that but he don't want me to do that either because it takes way to much resources he says. So I'm in a lose lose situation huh? Does anyone have their teachers to it themselves? From: info-tech-ow...@aea8.k12.ia.us [mailto:info-tech-ow...@aea8.k12.ia.us] On Behalf Of

RE: [info-tech] Updating Computers

2009-02-11 Thread Timothy A. Limbert
I'm coming from an Apple perspective here, so I certainly won't answer the original question, but I'm curious: With Macs that are centrally-managed, we are always told to be very cautious about updating ANYTHING during the school year, particularly OS updates, because it might mess up management

RE: [info-tech] Updating Computers [Spam score:8%]

2009-02-11 Thread Mark Walz
I've got a separate WSUS server in each building. The only resources involved are and old PIII 650mhz desktop at each building. From: info-tech-ow...@aea8.k12.ia.us [mailto:info-tech-ow...@aea8.k12.ia.us] On Behalf Of Mueller, Mitch Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:48 PM To:

Re: [info-tech] Updating Computers

2009-02-11 Thread Jackie Fonley
I'm not so concerned with all the security updates and such with the Macs that I would be with the PC environment. another reason I like the Macs I think it would be a nightmare to continually have to touch each computer. Unless I can run them all around the same time . . . I don't

RE: [info-tech] Updating Computers

2009-02-11 Thread Mueller, Mitch
Ok. Well I'm going to run that by him and see if we can set up something like that. Get a desktop in each building with server on it and get it set up that way. From: info-tech-ow...@aea8.k12.ia.us [mailto:info-tech-ow...@aea8.k12.ia.us] On Behalf Of Jackie Fonley Sent: Wednesday, February

RE: [info-tech] Updating Computers

2009-02-11 Thread Jason Kehoe
Mitch, What about Windows Automatic Updates? --Jason From: info-tech-ow...@aea8.k12.ia.us [mailto:info-tech-ow...@aea8.k12.ia.us] On Behalf Of Mueller, Mitch Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 1:06 PM To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us Subject: RE: [info-tech] Updating Computers Ok. Well

RE: [info-tech] Updating Computers

2009-02-11 Thread Timothy A. Limbert
Jason, how dare you hijack this thread with a simple solution! That gets back to my earlier question, though. If you use Automatic Updates, do you have any control over what's updated? Tim From: info-tech-ow...@aea8.k12.ia.us [mailto:info-tech-ow...@aea8.k12.ia.us] On Behalf Of Jason

Re: [info-tech] Updating Computers

2009-02-11 Thread Jim Kerns
Jackie, if you are not going to play nicely It really has to be automated. There are options, but if it is all windows, WSUS is the way to go IMO. I am using something else right now, but I hope to change that this summer. Jim Jackie Fonley jfon...@algona.k12.ia.us 2/11/2009 1:03

RE: [info-tech] Updating Computers

2009-02-11 Thread Frerichs, Chad
I agree. With WSUS you get to select what gets pushed when. That way you can sometimes avoid conflicts before they arise by withholding updates that could potentially cause issues with software. And I thought Apples 'just worked.' What is all of this about not being able to update software

RE: [info-tech] Updating Computers [Spam score:8%]

2009-02-11 Thread Mark Walz
Also WSUS only pulls one copy down from the internet then distributes it all locally. Windows Automatic Updates is a bandwidth killer. From: info-tech-ow...@aea8.k12.ia.us [mailto:info-tech-ow...@aea8.k12.ia.us] On Behalf Of Frerichs, Chad Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 1:31 PM To:

RE: [info-tech] Updating Computers

2009-02-11 Thread Jason Kehoe
J Windows automatic updates is simple. Correct, you can't block certain updates, but I don't think that is Mitch's issue. WSUS works great, but you have to manage and over look it constantly. Approving/denying updates, creating groups, and getting reports to see who didn't update. For some WSUS

Re: [info-tech] Updating Computers

2009-02-11 Thread Jackie Fonley
Not play nice . . . Me? ;-D On Feb 11, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Jim Kerns wrote: Jackie, if you are not going to play nicely It really has to be automated. There are options, but if it is all windows, WSUS is the way to go IMO. I am using something else right now, but I hope to change that

RE: [info-tech] Updating Computers

2009-02-11 Thread Timothy A. Limbert
Just Works might apply to the iPod, but definitely not to a managed-client network. It works pretty well IF you know the pitfalls, which I would assume is true for any platform. But those pitfalls are definitely there, and you want to know they're there BEFORE you let them loose in your network.

RE: [info-tech] Updating Computers

2009-02-11 Thread Frerichs, Chad
But then you never know if updates don't run for whatever reason. Updates still fail the same, and at least if you have the reports you know which machines are still running SP1. :-) As for the time consuming part, you can set WSUS to auto-approve different categories of updates. Then, you get the

RE: [info-tech] Updating Computers

2009-02-11 Thread Koenck, Chris
We also use WSUS and Group Policy. Once it is set up, approving or declining updates isn't a big deal. Not compared to the time you would spend if you physically had to go and touch every machine. I think that just trusting that your end users to apply the updates wouldn't give you the oversight

RE: [info-tech] Updating Computers

2009-02-11 Thread Timothy A. Limbert
And we have the same issue with Apple. OS X Server has a local update server much like WSUS, but requires the same amount of attention. I prefer to install updates on my test machine, and if something looks necessary and harmless, I download the installer package for that update from Apple, and

RE: [info-tech] Updating Computers

2009-02-11 Thread Mueller, Mitch
That is kind of the answer I have been looking for. I was told not to do a WSUS server but just to know that my computers are up to date. I was told to keep it out of my network but at least I do know if they are getting done that way. From: info-tech-ow...@aea8.k12.ia.us

Re: [info-tech] Updating Computers

2009-02-11 Thread JON HUESER
What's an update?? I can't find the update on either our Apple IIE's or our typewriters :) Thanks! Jon W. Hueser- MSE, Ed. S MS/HS Principal Technology Director East Greene CSD 405 12th Street South Grand Junction, IA 50107 515-738-2411 x241 Fax: 515-738-5719

[info-tech] Technology Associate

2009-02-11 Thread Lance Lennon
Does anyone out there use associates as tech assistance? And if so, is their a job description? Thanks in advance Lance --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus on the server aea8.k12.ia.us] - Archived messages from this list