Hello everybody,
for all of you who don’t know, PHP FIG (Framework Interoperability Group,
http://www.php-fig.org/) discusses ways frameworks and libraries can work
together and integrate much easier. Current PSRs are PSR-0 to standardize
autoloading, PSR-1 and PSR-2 that deal with coding
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 1:02 AM, Lars Strojny l...@strojny.net wrote:
Hello everybody,
for all of you who don’t know, PHP FIG (Framework Interoperability Group,
http://www.php-fig.org/) discusses ways frameworks and libraries can work
together and integrate much easier. Current PSRs are PSR-0
Hi Kris,
thanks for your response. Just a short note: I'm not in any ways officially
related to PHP FIG, except that I find it personally to be a good initiative.
Rest of the answers below.
Am 16.12.2012 um 11:50 schrieb Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com:
My one concern with this idea is that
hi Lars,
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Lars Strojny l...@strojny.net wrote:
PHP core currently doesn’t have a vote in that group and I think this is
something we should change. Is anybody interested in taking part of the
discussions there and representing PHP core?
My take on this
Hi Pierre,
Am 16.12.2012 um 13:08 schrieb Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com:
This is something we have seen in the past, legacy core developers
were not really in sync with the community needs or wishes. That's why
we need them to work with the core instead of the other way 'round. It
will
On Tue, 11 Dec 2012, Derick Rethans wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012, Herman Radtke wrote:
Another option is to make an ImmutableDateTime class. The DateTime
class could actually be changed to inherit the ImmutableDateTime
class. The only extensions on the DateTime class would be the mutable
This is so cool, thanks Derick! If you need help with testing or anything else,
let me know.
Am 16.12.2012 um 13:21 schrieb Derick Rethans der...@php.net:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2012, Derick Rethans wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012, Herman Radtke wrote:
Another option is to make an ImmutableDateTime
I'm not really against that, but we do need to use the Date namespace -
so DateTimeImmutable. It might be trickier to do than it sounds
though...
I've started hacking on this - with some luck I'm done before PHP 5.5
beta1.
Am I missing something here?
Isn't this just making the object content
Lars Strojny wrote:
for all of you who don’t know, PHP FIG (Framework Interoperability
Group,http://www.php-fig.org/) discusses ways frameworks and libraries can work
together and integrate much easier. Current PSRs are PSR-0 to standardize
autoloading, PSR-1 and PSR-2 that deal with coding
You realize that this is not the list of PHP FIG, right?
On 16 December 2012 15:26, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
Lars Strojny wrote:
for all of you who don’t know, PHP FIG (Framework Interoperability
Group,http://www.php-fig.org/) discusses ways frameworks and libraries can
work
hi Lars,
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Lars Strojny l...@strojny.net wrote:
Hi Pierre,
Am 16.12.2012 um 13:08 schrieb Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com:
This is something we have seen in the past, legacy core developers
were not really in sync with the community needs or wishes. That's
Lars,
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
snip
Once again this is totally off base. We are not discussing anything
proposed or adopted by the FIG group but how php.net can better
cooperate with this group. I urge you to stay on topic and move any
other topics
I have actually started too, but I made it w/o inheritance from DateTime,
and I made many of inline functions to avoid code repetition, so I don't
know how good is it. The code on my work computer, so I can show it
tomorrow.
Derick Rethans der...@php.net писал(а) в своём письме Sun, 16 Dec
Pierre Joye wrote:
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Lester Caineles...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
snip
Once again this is totally off base. We are not discussing anything
proposed or adopted by the FIG group but how php.net can better
cooperate with this group. I urge you to stay on topic and move
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
Pierre Joye wrote:
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Lester Caineles...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
snip
Once again this is totally off base. We are not discussing anything
proposed or adopted by the FIG group but how
Paul Dragoonis wrote:
It's not the only difference that FIG are pushing which is opposite to the
style standards on the core code, so perhaps we should be lobbying them to
come in line with the documented standards?
We done a survey on all the major projects and what their standards
Anthony Ferrara wrote:
can we please keep superfluous discussions like coding standards off-list? I
have no issue with representation of fig discussion, but whitespace discussions
have no place on this list...
The standards being dictated by FIG are at odds with those adopted here for many
On 12/16/2012 12:27 PM, Lester Caine wrote:
Anthony Ferrara wrote:
can we please keep superfluous discussions like coding standards
off-list? I
have no issue with representation of fig discussion, but whitespace
discussions
have no place on this list...
The standards being dictated by FIG
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012, Lester Caine wrote:
I'm not really against that, but we do need to use the Date namespace -
so DateTimeImmutable. It might be trickier to do than it sounds
though...
I've started hacking on this - with some luck I'm done before PHP 5.5
beta1.
Am I
Hi!
Al the methods will *still* return the modified DateTime object - it's
just that the one that you *call* f.e. -modify() on won't change
anymore.
Doesn't it mean you can just call clone() on it in modifier methods
before doing anything else?
--
Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012, Stas Malyshev wrote:
Al the methods will *still* return the modified DateTime object -
it's just that the one that you *call* f.e. -modify() on won't
change anymore.
Doesn't it mean you can just call clone() on it in modifier methods
before doing anything else?
Hi Lars,
Thanks for your detailed response. My thoughts inline below
--Kris
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:42 AM, Lars Strojny l...@strojny.net wrote:
Hi Kris,
thanks for your response. Just a short note: I'm not in any ways
officially related to PHP FIG, except that I find it personally
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
On 12/16/2012 12:27 PM, Lester Caine wrote:
Anthony Ferrara wrote:
can we please keep superfluous discussions like coding standards
off-list? I
have no issue with representation of fig discussion, but whitespace
discussions
have no place on this list...
The standards
On 12/16/2012 03:20 PM, Lester Caine wrote:
One gets the impression that it's all too late, so from the other side,
should all of the core files be changed to follow the new de-facto
standard? And YES I classify using different white space standards for
different file formats as more of a
hi,
What does that have to do with the initial question?
It is getting really annoying to see you hi jack every single thread
in this list with totally off topic and lengthy replies. It does not
matter if what the questions raised are important or not, they are off
topic.
We do not, and do not
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote:
hi,
What does that have to do with the initial question?
It is getting really annoying to see you hi jack every single thread
in this list with totally off topic and lengthy replies. It does not
matter if what the
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