Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 7.4 FEATURE FREEZE ❄

2019-07-23 Thread Eli White
That one took me a while. And then I busted out laughing. Well played Mark. ᐧ On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 9:18 PM Mark Randall wrote: > On 23/07/2019 10:00, Derick Rethans wrote: > > DOs: > > - Test test test test > > - Tell your friends and collegues to test with their apps and projects > > - Oh

Re: [PHP-DEV][RFC][DISCUSSION] Deprecate the backtick operator

2018-02-12 Thread Eli White
is no direct gain/need to remove this feature. Eli On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 8:16 AM, CHU Zhaowei wrote: > Hello, > > >But that being said, I do support the proposal. I understand people > >opposed to removing features for no reason, but nobody needs this to > >be an operato

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP's mail servers suck

2017-11-08 Thread Eli White
there is a team working on it now. Eli

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP's mail servers suck

2017-11-07 Thread Eli White
solid point person, who can give others power to handle things. Sounds like we have some people willing to help out. (Andreas? Sara?) — People just need to give them access and let things happen. Eli

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP's mail servers suck

2017-11-07 Thread Eli White
x27;s been brought up in the past. And invariably it all falls back to "Oh, only one person really knew how to maintain that random mail server and they aren't active anymore, and now no-one really does, so it just keeps running and no-one wants to take the effort to try to update/fix/move

Re: [PHP-DEV] the experimental jit-branch is impressive

2017-05-03 Thread Eli
fit there. Or even show a decrease. Then it's going to be rough moving forward. Eli -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] php.net mailing setup owner?

2016-12-01 Thread Eli
ince Wez stopped managing the email servers. They are kinda 'running on their own without anyone knowing how they are running'. Eli On 11/27/16 5:44 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > > Is there somebody around who knows what happens with configuration of > mailer in

Re: [PHP-DEV] New escaped output operator

2016-06-18 Thread Eli
On 6/18/16 12:56 AM, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > We may be better to consider " htmlspecialchars($str)" rather than " would be for PHP 8. No, that would be highly inadvisable. As it's been pointed out, people use PHP templating for things besides just HTML. And if you made this change, then http://el

Re: [PHP-DEV] Specific incident in relationship to the proposed Code of Conduct

2016-01-23 Thread Eli
s decided by a jury / peers / etc. Which, is very similar to what the purpose of having a Mediation/CoC team within a project would fulfill. Anyway, just more food for thought / another POV. Eli -- | Eli White | http://eliw.com/ | Twitter: EliW | signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Re-proposed] Adopt Code of Conduct

2016-01-21 Thread Eli
or maybe not, there should be. However, just considering a RFC 'failed' because a person had reason to back out of running it themselves, should not be the end result. Thanks, Eli -- | Eli White | http://eliw.com/ | Twitter: EliW | signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Anonymous voting on wiki

2016-01-12 Thread Eli
On 1/12/16 9:53 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > I'm at least one of the people who talked with Eli regarding the STH > vote (the one for my RFC, not Eli's). It was a ~20 message DM exchange > on Twitter, very respectful (Eli - if you think otherwise, please say > so),

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Anonymous voting on wiki

2016-01-12 Thread Eli
ds into the flurry of badgering for people to change their votes, beleaguering comments designed to help people change their vote, and so on. Moving to at the very least a 'anonymous votes, and anonymous results, until after the vote is finished'. Would make it much more like a 

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Anonymous voting on wiki

2016-01-11 Thread Eli
bility for people to be influenced/petitioned/pressed by others to change their vote. Hence: I think that there has been something that changed, a new data point, and therefore a discussion may be merited. Eli On 1/11/16 9:51 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Eli <ma

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Anonymous voting on wiki

2016-01-11 Thread Eli
t to win > someone over and change his/her vote. Unfortunately that won't stop the above situation. While it would stop the idea of campaigning someone to change their vote (which is perhaps another reason to do it). It just means all the above issues would be taking place post

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Anonymous voting on wiki

2016-01-11 Thread Eli
da brought this out of the woodwork a bit. And honestly I haven't seen a serious discussion about 'by default anonymous' since that time. (But perhaps I missed it) Eli -- | Eli White | http://eliw.com/ | Twitter: EliW | signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

2016-01-06 Thread Eli
have to imply (though it can). That the actual ballots of that vote, would be necessity be required to be public themselves. And I can see pros/cons that could be argued either way there. If ... the information is made public at that point, but the ballots are kept in private, then tha

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

2016-01-04 Thread Eli
ironment for them to do so. Without such a statement. They would have no way to determine that, other than reading 10 years worth of internals+reddit+etc. To that end, it's a great step, and I will +1 vote for it when it comes up. Thanks for putting it forward Anthony. Eli -- |

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][PRE-VOTE] In Operator

2015-03-16 Thread Eli
in an array" ... and "How to see if a string is in another string". And showing them this simpler cognitive version. But then you start going deeper on 'advanced stuff' later :) (and yes, in_array becomes 'advanced stuff' at that point. It's too bad that th

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][PRE-VOTE] In Operator

2015-03-16 Thread Eli
On 3/15/15 11:05 PM, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > Hi all, > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Eli wrote: >> Currently, I can speak for myself, I almost always find myself doing a >> 'backup' step in coding. Because in this situation my process becomes: >> >

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][PRE-VOTE] In Operator

2015-03-15 Thread Eli
ect your opinion, so I'd like to understand more. Is this just truly a case of "Eh, we have a function already, this isn't necessary"? Or is there some actual harm you see caused by it? Thanks Stas! Eli -- | Eli White | http://eliw.com/ | Twitter: EliW | signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [PHP-DEV] Voting irregularities

2015-03-15 Thread Eli
ave other theories on that (which do not include any negative consequences or foul play, but simple cases of human mentality and 'community' vs 'community' discussions) In service to PHP, Eli -- | Eli White | http://eliw.com/ | Twitter: EliW | signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Basic Scalar Types

2015-03-13 Thread Eli
t states: " will close the later of March 13, 2015 or the date that voting closes on a competing RFC." Zeev's competing RFC closes on March 25th. So Anthony's proposal also ends on March 25th. There's still 12 days left for voting. Eli -- | Eli White

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: A plea for unity on scalar types

2015-03-13 Thread Eli
be discounted. Is not the way to attempt to 'win' a vote. Eli On 3/13/15 2:04 PM, Maciej Sobaczewski wrote: > Currently Scalar Type Declarations are going to fall. We have 33 No > votes and I really wonder why there is almost no justification for > them. I know that it'

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Basic Scalar Types

2015-03-13 Thread Eli
ater. And that evolution can be based upon our real world experience of using this 'base level' of typehinting for a while. Versus the more complicated versions, of which both Zeev's and Anthony's are. In each their own way. Eli On 3/13/15 1:17 AM, Andi Gutmans wrote: > Agree a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [VOTE][RFC] Coercive Scalar Type Hints

2015-03-11 Thread Eli
) So this was all 'as planned' there, Eli On 3/11/15 2:37 PM, Benoit Schildnecht wrote: > Hi, > > You are making a very huge mistake, IMHO. By having 2 conflicting RFC, > you are taking the risk they both fail. And it won't do any good to the > language. > > Wh

Re: [PHP-DEV] [PHP7] Remove the function keyword from class methods?

2014-10-03 Thread Eli
ctly what/where/how the functions are declared. Eli -- | Eli White | http://eliw.com/ | Twitter: EliW | signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[PHP-DEV] VCS Account Request: eliw

2014-08-27 Thread Eli White
Specifically asked by Hannes to request an account, so that I can help take on approving/adding conferences to the conference list. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php