RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date

2015-11-10 Thread Anatol Belski
> -Original Message- > From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:ras...@lerdorf.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 1:50 AM > To: David Zuelke ; Andi Gutmans > Cc: Anatol Belski ; Stanislav Malyshev > ; internals@lists.php.net; Kalle Sommer Nielsen > ; Ferenc Kovacs > Su

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date

2015-11-10 Thread Andrea Faulds
Hey Andi, Andi Gutmans wrote: Btw, do we want to do something special on php.net ? Front page? Not the sexiest site as-is so maybe gives us an excuse to spice up the front page? 7 is the first new major version in more than a decade, it'd be a shame if we didn't capitalise

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date

2015-11-10 Thread Andi Gutmans
> On Nov 10, 2015, at 8:53 AM, David Zuelke wrote: > > Sure: http://phpversions.info/paas-hosting/ > > The default PHP version in the absence of any explicit declaration on Heroku > will remain 5.6.latest for a while, but if you have a composer.json with a > bunch of requirements for package "

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date

2015-11-10 Thread David Zuelke
On 10.11.2015, at 10:26, Lester Caine wrote: > > On 10/11/15 00:49, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: >>> November 30 is Cyber Monday, where people are either a) focused on maxing out their credit cards on every possible e-commerce site, or b) unable to roll out PHP 7 because their cust

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date

2015-11-10 Thread Lester Caine
On 10/11/15 09:37, Kingsquare.nl - Robin Speekenbrink wrote: > With the advent of a wider variety of (container based) hosting solutions > (i.e. Heroku (https://devcenter.heroku.com/changelog-items/679) and > dokku-esque providers) and i.e. Docker providing the latest RC's via > 'official' images (

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date

2015-11-10 Thread Kingsquare.nl - Robin Speekenbrink
2015-11-10 10:26 GMT+01:00 Lester Caine : > On 10/11/15 00:49, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > >> November 30 is Cyber Monday, where people are either > >> > > >> > a) focused on maxing out their credit cards on every possible > e-commerce site, or > >> > b) unable to roll out PHP 7 because their customer

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date

2015-11-10 Thread Lester Caine
On 10/11/15 00:49, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: >> November 30 is Cyber Monday, where people are either >> > >> > a) focused on maxing out their credit cards on every possible e-commerce >> > site, or >> > b) unable to roll out PHP 7 because their customers are busy with a) >> > >> > At least at Heroku

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date

2015-11-09 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On 11/09/2015 04:20 PM, David Zuelke wrote: > November 30 is Cyber Monday, where people are either > > a) focused on maxing out their credit cards on every possible e-commerce > site, or > b) unable to roll out PHP 7 because their customers are busy with a) > > At least at Heroku we have a black

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date

2015-11-09 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! > November 30 is Cyber Monday, where people are either > > a) focused on maxing out their credit cards on every possible > e-commerce site, or b) unable to roll out PHP 7 because their > customers are busy with a) > > At least at Heroku we have a blackout policy around Thanksgiving and > Chr

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date

2015-11-09 Thread David Zuelke
November 30 is Cyber Monday, where people are either a) focused on maxing out their credit cards on every possible e-commerce site, or b) unable to roll out PHP 7 because their customers are busy with a) At least at Heroku we have a blackout policy around Thanksgiving and Christmas for platform

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date

2015-11-09 Thread Adam Howard
I love that The PHP Development Team is not looking to rush a release and while I, like many others wish to see PHP 7.0 I would rather have a stable and solid release over the idea of a rushed release. So I commend the choice of releasing another RC (RC7) coming up in the next few days There appe

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date

2015-11-09 Thread Julien Pauli
On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Andi Gutmans wrote: >> On Nov 8, 2015, at 5:35 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: >> >> On 11/08/2015 05:16 PM, Anatol Belski wrote: >>> Exactly, the relevant patches are going into RC7 which is then out on 12th >>> instead of GA. The next closest release slot were then Nov

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date

2015-11-09 Thread Andi Gutmans
> On Nov 8, 2015, at 5:35 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > > On 11/08/2015 05:16 PM, Anatol Belski wrote: >> Exactly, the relevant patches are going into RC7 which is then out on 12th >> instead of GA. The next closest release slot were then Nov 26th, either for >> GA or for RC8 (but better not try to

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date

2015-11-09 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
On 11/08/2015 02:45 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: I think this is the right thing to do, we can wait for a bit if it means better stability. +1 -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date

2015-11-09 Thread Anatol Belski
Hi Rasmus, > -Original Message- > From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:ras...@lerdorf.com] > Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 2:36 AM > To: Anatol Belski ; 'Stanislav Malyshev' > ; internals@lists.php.net > Cc: 'Kalle Sommer Nielsen' ; 'Ferenc Kovac

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date

2015-11-08 Thread Scott Arciszewski
If nothing else, it will give us an excuse to avoid the Black Friday madness ("Sorry hon, I need to update the server!"). Scott Arciszewski Chief Development Officer Paragon Initiative Enterprises On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > On 11/08/2015 05:1

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date

2015-11-08 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On 11/08/2015 05:16 PM, Anatol Belski wrote: > Exactly, the relevant patches are going into RC7 which is then out on 12th > instead of GA. The next closest release slot were then Nov 26th, either for > GA or for RC8 (but better not try to predict). If it stands good, we might > have no reason to wa

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date

2015-11-08 Thread Anatol Belski
> -Original Message- > From: Zeev Suraski [mailto:z...@zend.com] > Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2015 8:57 PM > To: Rasmus Lerdorf ; Anatol Belski > ; internals@lists.php.net > Cc: Kalle Sommer Nielsen ; Ferenc Kovacs > Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date > &

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date

2015-11-08 Thread Scott Arciszewski
As much as I had been looking forward to it soon, haste does makes waste. Making a more responsible choice for the users is commendable and outweighs the inconvenience a mere two week delay. +1 from me. Scott Arciszewski Chief Development Officer Paragon Initiative Enterprises

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date

2015-11-08 Thread Anatol Belski
Hi Stas, > -Original Message- > From: Stanislav Malyshev [mailto:smalys...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2015 8:46 PM > To: Anatol Belski ; internals@lists.php.net > Cc: 'Kalle Sommer Nielsen' ; 'Ferenc Kovacs' > Subject: Re: [PHP-DE

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date

2015-11-08 Thread Christopher Jones
On 9/11/2015 6:15 am, Anatol Belski wrote: Hi, After doing the last evaluations in the RMs circle before going for 7.0.0 RTM preparations, we came to the conclusion that the current state does not look reasonable to be packaged as the final release. The RCs before RC6 was looking acceptable,

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date

2015-11-08 Thread Zeev Suraski
> -Original Message- > From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:ras...@lerdorf.com] > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 9:49 PM > To: Anatol Belski; internals@lists.php.net > Cc: 'Kalle Sommer Nielsen'; 'Ferenc Kovacs' > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date >

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date

2015-11-08 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On 11/08/2015 11:15 AM, Anatol Belski wrote: > Hi, > > After doing the last evaluations in the RMs circle before going for 7.0.0 > RTM preparations, we came to the conclusion that the current state does not > look reasonable to be packaged as the final release. > > The RCs before RC6 was looking

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date

2015-11-08 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! > Thus, resuming the pre-release cycle seems in our opinion the right thing to > do ATM. Hence this writing to inform the community about the intention and > to gather the opinions. PHP 7 is still going down the home stretch and is > very close to the finish, the next RC can be well the last.