Re: last call comments for draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses-06

2013-04-22 Thread Sam Hartman
RJ == RJ Atkinson rja.li...@gmail.com writes: RJ I oppose Eliot's proposed edits on grounds that they would RJ reduce the clarity of the specification and also would reduce RJ IETF and WG consensus about this specification. Ran, I just checked, and you don't seem to be a 6man

Re: [lisp] Judging Consensus on the UDP Checksum Issue

2009-08-13 Thread Sam Hartman
Lars == Lars Eggert lars.egg...@nokia.com writes: Lars Hi, yes, because RFC2460 says MUST use always and the Lars intent here is to loosen that restriction for LISP and AMT. Lars (And I'm sure Noel will again call this red-tape legalese, Lars but the fact is that this change

Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksum issue]

2009-08-11 Thread Sam Hartman
Noel == Noel Chiappa j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu writes: From: Francis Dupont francis.dup...@fdupont.fr the O UDP checksum proposal obsoletes all the today deployed nodes which check them (so all hosts I know and perhaps a lot of routers too) Noel OK, so what are the other

Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue

2009-08-11 Thread Sam Hartman
Joel Given that LISP ITRs work by intercepting packets that are Joel not addressed to them, a host implementation would need to Joel be able to intercept packets in the stack. That is going Joel to need some ability to modify kernel behavior. I'm trying to figure out how an ITR

Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue

2009-08-11 Thread Sam Hartman
Dino == Dino Farinacci d...@cisco.com writes: Dino We call LISP tunnels as dynamic encapsulating tunnels Dino where an implementation must not implement the tunnel as a Dino logical interface. The implementation cannot scale if it Dino does this. You get the level of indirection

Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksum issue]

2009-08-05 Thread Sam Hartman
Shane == Shane Amante sh...@castlepoint.net writes: Shane Take a look at the following URL: Shane http://www.sixxs.net/faq/connectivity/?faq=ipv6transit Shane (Note, I can't vouch for the accuracy of the entire list, Shane but it's about the best publicly available list I've

Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksum issue]

2009-08-05 Thread Sam Hartman
Shane == Shane Amante sh...@castlepoint.net writes: Shane With respect to #2, SP's have been mandating that they only Shane buy v6- capable HW for the last /several years/ as part of Shane the normal growth/ replacement cycle of network equipment. Shane So, yes, this equipment

Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue

2009-08-04 Thread Sam Hartman
Joel == Joel M Halpern j...@joelhalpern.com writes: Joel It has become clear with the passage of time that the Joel description of the flow label in the original IPv6 specs Joel served only to convince everyone not to use that field for Joel anything. Even now, no one is sure