Hi Bob,
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From: Bob Hinden [mailto:bob.hin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 5:38 PM
To: Templin, Fred L
Cc: Bob Hinden; Thomas Narten; ipv6@ietf.org
Subject: Re: New draft on Stub Router Advertisements in IPv6
NeighborDiscovery
Fred,
In my
Hi Brian,
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From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:18 PM
To: Templin, Fred L
Cc: Thomas Narten; ipv6@ietf.org
Subject: Re: New draft on Stub Router Advertisements in IPv6
NeighborDiscovery
The NBMA link
Mark Smith i...@69706e6720323030352d30312d31340a.nosense.org writes:
I think a prefix redirect mechanism is justified because it provides
more optimal forwarding for inter-CPE traffic. I only brought up
the LI issue and addressed it because that seemed to be the only
objection there was to
Thomas,
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From: Thomas Narten [mailto:nar...@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 6:10 AM
To: Templin, Fred L
Cc: ipv6@ietf.org
Subject: Re: New draft on Stub Router Advertisements in IPv6
NeighborDiscovery
Templin, Fred L fred.l.temp...@boeing.com
Brian,
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From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 5:53 PM
To: Templin, Fred L
Cc: Mark Smith; Thomas Narten; Hinden; b...@core3.amsl.com; ipv6@ietf.org
Subject: Re: New draft on Stub Router Advertisements in IPv6
Fred,
Let's up level. I fundamentally do not understand the motivation for
any of this work. That is what I mean by what's the problem. Let's
focus on that question alone, because if I (or the community) is not
convinced there is an actual problem that needs work, there is no
point in
I apologize for asking stupid questions, but I'm trying to understand
the terminology in this discussion. If a network has no connection to
a provider, are all of its routers stub routers? What constitutes a
provider? If two administrative domains interconnect but still have no
connection to
Hi Thomas,
-Original Message-
From: Thomas Narten [mailto:nar...@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:18 AM
To: Templin, Fred L
Cc: ipv6@ietf.org
Subject: Re: New draft on Stub Router Advertisements in IPv6
NeighborDiscovery
Fred,
Let's up level. I fundamentally
Hi Thomas,
On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 09:12:44 -0500
Thomas Narten nar...@us.ibm.com wrote:
Mark Smith i...@69706e6720323030352d30312d31340a.nosense.org writes:
I think a prefix redirect mechanism is justified because it provides
more optimal forwarding for inter-CPE traffic. I only brought up
Hi Thomas,
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From: Thomas Narten [mailto:nar...@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 1:54 PM
To: Templin, Fred L
Cc: ipv6@ietf.org
Subject: Re: New draft on Stub Router Advertisements in IPv6
NeighborDiscovery
Hi Fred.
the picture is a start...
OK
,
-Original Message-
From: Thomas Narten [mailto:nar...@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 1:54 PM
To: Templin, Fred L
Cc: ipv6@ietf.org
Subject: Re: New draft on Stub Router Advertisements in IPv6
NeighborDiscovery
Hi Fred.
the picture is a start...
OK.
Templin, Fred L
Bob,
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From: Bob Hinden [mailto:bob.hin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:14 PM
To: Templin, Fred L
Cc: Bob Hinden; Thomas Narten; ipv6@ietf.org
Subject: Re: New draft on Stub Router Advertisements in IPv6
NeighborDiscovery
Fred,
Why not just
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Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:14 PM
To: Templin, Fred L
Cc: Bob Hinden; Thomas Narten; ipv6@ietf.org
Subject: Re: New draft on Stub Router Advertisements in IPv6
NeighborDiscovery
Fred,
Why not just use OSPF? It already supports NBMA networks and is widely
supported
The NBMA link and all of its attached devices is also
a separate site,
Fred, can you explain what NBMA technologies you are thinking
of? I think we successfully proved that ATM is not a viable
access technology precisely because it creates the NBMA problem,
so I'm wondering why we are trying
Hi Simha,
Thanks for your comments, and see below:
-Original Message-
From: Narasimhan Venkataramaiah [mailto:nar...@microsoft.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 2:49 PM
To: Templin, Fred L; ipv6@ietf.org
Subject: RE: New draft on Stub Router Advertisements in IPv6
...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
Templin, Fred L
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 8:47 AM
To: Bob Hinden; Thomas Narten
Cc: ipv6@ietf.org
Subject: RE: New draft on Stub Router Advertisements in IPv6
NeighborDiscovery
Hi Bob,
-Original Message-
From: Bob Hinden [mailto:bob.hin
Cc: ipv6@ietf.org
Subject: RE: New draft on Stub Router Advertisements in IPv6
NeighborDiscovery
Hi Bob,
-Original Message-
From: Bob Hinden [mailto:bob.hin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 2:52 PM
To: Thomas Narten
Cc: Bob Hinden; Templin, Fred L; ipv6@ietf.org
on Stub Router Advertisements in IPv6
NeighborDiscovery
Hi Fred,
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:47:04 -0800
Templin, Fred L fred.l.temp...@boeing.com wrote:
Hi Bob,
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From: Bob Hinden [mailto:bob.hin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 2:52 PM
Bob,
-Original Message-
From: Bob Hinden [mailto:bob.hin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 12:15 PM
To: Templin, Fred L
Cc: Bob Hinden; Thomas Narten; ipv6@ietf.org
Subject: Re: New draft on Stub Router Advertisements in IPv6
NeighborDiscovery
Fred,
Have my
The lawful intercept question is an interesting one, but
as you say if the ISP owns both the L2 and L3 infrastucture
there should be a way to support it. It may be much more
challenging to do the intercept from L2 switches located
close to the CPEs, however, since you may need many points
of
Hi Brian,
On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:52:30 +1300
Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com wrote:
The lawful intercept question is an interesting one, but
as you say if the ISP owns both the L2 and L3 infrastucture
there should be a way to support it. It may be much more
challenging to
Thomas,
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From: ipv6-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
Thomas Narten
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:37 AM
To: Templin, Fred L
Cc: ipv6@ietf.org
Subject: Re: New draft on Stub Router Advertisements in IPv6
NeighborDiscovery
Fred
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