[The Java Posse] Re: #362: Thanks for selecting my loop as a winner

2011-09-06 Thread Steven Herod
Clearly, it'd be easier if we all spoke Scala. On Sep 4, 7:45 am, opinali opin...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, September 3, 2011 12:25:39 PM UTC-4, Cédric Beust ♔ wrote: On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Fabrizio Giudici fabrizio...@tidalwave.it wrote: As the other cited neo-latin

[The Java Posse] Re: James Gosling Says He Doesn't Care About Java

2011-06-30 Thread Steven Herod
I'm developing daddy issues now. On Jun 30, 4:11 pm, Mario Fusco mario.fu...@gmail.com wrote: Most people talk about Java the language, and this may sound odd coming from me, but I could hardly care less.  - James Gosling, TSSJS 2011

[The Java Posse] Re: On developing coherent software engineering practices

2011-06-30 Thread Steven Herod
What are the personalities of the people in the team? With 20 people, you might get 1 fellow enthusiast out to 4 or 5 who wish to participate. And maybe even 1 or 2 who are actively hostile. Don't worry about a forum, 20 people isn't enough to make it worth while. If you have email, use an

[The Java Posse] Re: The new JavaZone trailer...

2011-06-27 Thread Steven Herod
That was awesome. On Jun 25, 12:30 am, Paulo \JCranky\ Siqueira paulo.sique...@gmail.com wrote: 'Amazing' is just not enough to describe this video! []s, 2011/6/24 Greg Reddin gred...@gmail.com On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Casper Bang casper.b...@gmail.com wrote: Dude,

[The Java Posse] Re: JavaDoc due for an overhaul

2011-06-21 Thread Steven Herod
New style sheet in action: http://download.java.net/jdk7/docs/api/ On Jun 4, 11:10 am, Reinier Zwitserloot reini...@gmail.com wrote: The link ishttp://blogs.oracle.com/jjg/entry/what_s_up_javadoc- somehow a space got lost there. Just in case anyone didn't figure that out :) Thanks for the

[The Java Posse] Re: Best read out there on UX/UI

2011-06-15 Thread Steven Herod
This site: http://www.useit.com/jakob/useengbook.html And this book: http://www.useit.com/jakob/useengbook.html Were my intro to the subject some 10+ years ago On Jun 15, 5:20 am, Patrick Forhan pfor...@gmail.com wrote: Here's three I picked up last year and have thoroughly enjoyed.  I am

[The Java Posse] Re: Best read out there on UX/UI

2011-06-15 Thread Steven Herod
on user interfaces in general. -- Cédric On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Steven Herod steven.he...@gmail.comwrote: This site: http://www.useit.com/jakob/useengbook.html And this book: http://www.useit.com/jakob/useengbook.html Were my intro to the subject some 10+ years ago

[The Java Posse] Re: Bruce Eckel's blog; first paedagogic Scala intro I've seen

2011-06-15 Thread Steven Herod
Wait a while. It'll eventually become consistent. It's WEBSCALE. On Jun 16, 12:51 am, Vince O'Sullivan vjosulli...@gmail.com wrote: Completely off topic but related to this thread... On Google Groups, if I sort this thread by reply then I only see the first 45 items.  If I sort it by date

[The Java Posse] Re: Java Rule engine

2011-06-10 Thread Steven Herod
Drools is probably the premier open source java based tool and its as lightweight as a genuine RETE rules engine gets (or as heavyweight as you want to make it). It's actively maintained and developed, has a pile of documentation, is free to use and an active community. The Java API should run

[The Java Posse] Re: Oracle to demand 150% of all Android related revenue?

2011-06-10 Thread Steven Herod
Let the billionaires fight, its no skin off my nose. On Jun 9, 5:32 pm, Casper Bang casper.b...@gmail.com wrote: http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/06/oracle-wants-huge-cut-of-goog... Those who can't roll, can always become a patent troll. Oracle perhaps you should start to innovate

[The Java Posse] Re: Joe (and all), your thoughts on the Apple Announcements

2011-06-08 Thread Steven Herod
Some of these sites seem to work on the basis they get traffic and publicity for 24 hours until the letter from Apple Legal arrives and they take down the article. On Jun 9, 10:20 am, Chris Adamson invalidn...@gmail.com wrote: Everything except the keynote is under NDA, and I have no idea how

[The Java Posse] Re: Writing a code formatting tool for a programming language.

2011-06-07 Thread Steven Herod
Thanks from the pointers folks, I will dig on from here. Interestingly, as part of my further poking it seems Salesforce uses Antlr itself for APEX, although it seems the grammars etc are closed source. On Jun 7, 2:49 pm, Kirk kirk.pepperd...@gmail.com wrote: looks interesting!  javacc mostly

[The Java Posse] Re: Is JavaFX really the future of Java Desktop development?

2011-06-07 Thread Steven Herod
The JavaFX 1.x series was pretty dismal for business/swing style apps. JavaFX 2.0 looks like its starting off on a much stronger basis, and you should know there is a TableView control in JavaFX 2.0: http://download.oracle.com/javafx/2.0/api/javafx/scene/control/TableView.html Regarding Swing -

[The Java Posse] Writing a code formatting tool for a programming language.

2011-06-06 Thread Steven Herod
(I'm cross posting this here as I know there are a lot of smart language nuts on this list, I throw myself at their mercy) I'm looking into the feasibility of writing a code formatting tool for the Apex language, a Salesforce.com variation on Java, and perhams VisualForce, its tag based markup

[The Java Posse] Re: IBM's Erich Gamma joins Microsoft

2011-06-06 Thread Steven Herod
A company with 426,751 employees loses one staff member to a company with 89,000 employees. Do individuals matter at this scale? On Jun 7, 2:22 pm, Meteor liuxingm...@gmail.com wrote: Yes. Bad news for IBM and Java. But good news for Microsoft and C#. -- You received this message because

[The Java Posse] Re: What is your favorite programming font?

2011-06-05 Thread Steven Herod
Agreed. IDGAS. On May 27, 1:35 am, Steel City Phantom scpha...@gmail.com wrote: LOL, honesty, whatever the default of the IDE ive been payed to use is.  i normally don't have time to worry about stuff like fonts, i have code to write. -- You received this message because you are subscribed

[The Java Posse] Re: Docs for JavaFX 2.0 have PDFs :-) (Android, nudge, nudge)

2011-06-01 Thread Steven Herod
One final note, if you are interested in what a JavaFX 2.0 app looks like code wise, here is a just published example showing the WebView (embedded webkit) control, some Java code and css styling.. http://fxexperience.com/2011/05/maps-in-javafx-2-0/#more-1170 On Jun 1, 7:51 am, Steven Herod

[The Java Posse] Re: Docs for JavaFX 2.0 have PDFs :-) (Android, nudge, nudge)

2011-06-01 Thread Steven Herod
carl.j...@gmail.com wrote: On May 31, 5:39 am, Jonathan Giles jonat...@jonathangiles.net wrote: As Steven Herod linked to, here's Richard Bairs (Java Client Architect) response (see the last comment): Cay, I have to agree! Which is why we have not developed a windows version

[The Java Posse] Re: Docs for JavaFX 2.0 have PDFs :-) (Android, nudge, nudge)

2011-06-01 Thread Steven Herod
amusing for a 3 or 4 year old product that has never really gone anywhere. Moandji --www.moandjiezana.com Sent from my phone On 31 May 2011 06:39, Jonathan Giles jonat...@jonathangiles.net wrote: As Steven Herod linked to, here's Richard Bairs (Java Client Architect) response (see

[The Java Posse] Re: Docs for JavaFX 2.0 have PDFs :-) (Android, nudge, nudge)

2011-05-31 Thread Steven Herod
It *looked* nicer, but it was actually a lot less easy to use in my experience. Subtle problems with scrolling and anchors (can't remember the specifics). Since JavaFX is now Java, there's no need for a different document generation tool (and more time to focus on the core and not the

[The Java Posse] Re: Docs for JavaFX 2.0 have PDFs :-) (Android, nudge, nudge)

2011-05-30 Thread Steven Herod
An EA for OSX does exist, I haven't checked to see if an EA for Linux exists yet. There have been various comments in the past that the controls side of things will be open sourced, but have no idea if/when that will ever happen. non directional flamebaitOf course, if it were Google doing this

[The Java Posse] Re: Docs for JavaFX 2.0 have PDFs :-) (Android, nudge, nudge)

2011-05-30 Thread Steven Herod
This may also help out on the cross platform question: http://fxexperience.com/2011/05/is-javafx-2-0-cross-platform/ On May 31, 1:16 pm, Steven Herod steven.he...@gmail.com wrote: An EA for OSX does exist, I haven't checked to see if an EA for Linux exists yet. There have been various

[The Java Posse] Re: James Gosling vs. Java 1.4.2

2011-05-30 Thread Steven Herod
The opposition to moving beyond 1.4.x would be mainly the cost. You have a working application which is stable, you are expending minimal effort maintaining, and suddenly someone is proposing you spend effort/cash to give developers a warm fuzzy feeling and the end user no actual visible benefit.

[The Java Posse] Re: Docs for JavaFX 2.0 have PDFs :-) (Android, nudge, nudge)

2011-05-30 Thread Steven Herod
Myself, I just can't understand why there's still even a tiny amount of people who are interested in JavaFX after Sun proved for fifteen years that they just weren't very good at this UI framework stuff. I don't understand why some people like brussels sprouts, each to their own. -- You

[The Java Posse] Re: James Gosling vs. Java 1.4.2

2011-05-30 Thread Steven Herod
no money), the benefits don't outweigh the risks/cost on any basis. On May 31, 1:44 pm, Ricky Clarkson ricky.clark...@gmail.com wrote: You may be overstating the effort/cash required, and understating the benefits. On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Steven Herod steven.he...@gmail.com wrote

[The Java Posse] Re: Oracle Proposes Hudson Move to Eclipse Foundation

2011-05-10 Thread Steven Herod
Foundation, meaning they pay annual dues of $250,000 and pay 8 or more full time developers to work on Eclipse projects. Regards, Neil. On May 9, 9:58 am, Steven Herod steven.he...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if it'll be joined by Oracle becoming a Gold partner with the Eclipse

[The Java Posse] Re: Oracle Proposes Hudson Move to Eclipse Foundation

2011-05-09 Thread Steven Herod
I wonder if it'll be joined by Oracle becoming a Gold partner with the Eclipse Foundation or the like? On May 7, 5:34 am, Kirk kirk.pepperd...@gmail.com wrote: I need to re-read the announcement then. Kirk On May 6, 2011, at 6:23 PM, Neil Bartlett wrote: ... It's just funny that

[The Java Posse] Re: Oracle gives up on OpenOffice after community forks the project

2011-04-19 Thread Steven Herod
They probably spent the last few months doing the numbers on the investment to bring it up to being a reasonable competitor to MS Office. And it probably didn't make commercial sense in any way shape or form. On Apr 19, 4:34 am, B Smith-Mannschott bsmith.o...@gmail.com wrote:

[The Java Posse] Re: Are cloud IDEs a good idea?

2011-04-19 Thread Steven Herod
My employers internet drops out for 15-30 seconds every few hours. Nothing quite like that spinning circle of doom to know if what you just hit Ctrl-S on has made it safely to the cloud. On Apr 18, 7:29 pm, Vince O'Sullivan vjosulli...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 5, 2:23 am, Mark Derricutt

[The Java Posse] Re: Are cloud IDEs a good idea?

2011-04-07 Thread Steven Herod
'Instant backups' is a pretty weak justification Mark :) I've lost more data in my browser based editor via a mistaken keystroke than every via disk failure. (Pressed backspace with the wrong thing in item, hit F5 instead of ctrl-S to save). (Why did I hit F5 you ask... because its the 'save'

[The Java Posse] Re: Are cloud IDEs a good idea?

2011-03-30 Thread Steven Herod
I've been using a Cloud based IDE with Force.com development. (Which has both an 'in the browser' editor and a Eclipse instance which pushes your code to the cloud for complation). I'm also using a third party .Net application which replaces the official Force.com IDE. They all suck. They are

[The Java Posse] New feature of GAE

2011-03-30 Thread Steven Herod
Java Concurrent Requests: Until now, Java applications relied on starting additional instances to dynamically scale up for higher traffic levels. Now with support for concurrent requests, each application instance may serve multiple user requests at the same time. To start, ensure your

[The Java Posse] Re: HTML rendering in Swing

2011-03-02 Thread Steven Herod
And so far it has 91/100 ACID compliance from my mucking around with it or so I heard... *cough* On Mar 3, 9:49 am, Jonathan Giles jonat...@jonathangiles.net wrote: JavaFX 2.0 will have a built-in web browser component also. -- Jonathan On Mar 1, 8:17 pm, Reinier Zwitserloot

[The Java Posse] Re: Jingle for Oracle Outrage of the Week segment

2011-02-10 Thread Steven Herod
I know a guy who's done both, and he says he'd prefer a vasectomy over Objective-C any day of the week. On Feb 8, 3:47 am, Casper Bang casper.b...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm what was that band called that performed I'd rather get a vasectomy than writing objective C... anyone? On Feb 7, 3:22 pm,

[The Java Posse] Re: serious bug hits jvm as well: Double.parseDouble(2.2250738585072012e-308)

2011-02-01 Thread Steven Herod
I'm doing more extensive testing and getting my partner to count to it from 0. On Feb 2, 10:37 am, Christian Catchpole ato...@catchpole.net wrote: I knew my girlfriend was a robot when I mentioned the 2.2250738585072012e-308 thing and her head exploded. I'm glad she was Java though. -- You

[The Java Posse] Cloudbees RUN@Cloud

2011-01-31 Thread Steven Herod
Looks interesting, seems more in line with VMForce and Amazon Elastic Beanstalk than GAE http://www.cloudbees.com/run.cb Wonder if all these slightly rounder offering will cause changes in GAE? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group.

[The Java Posse] Re: Android shipped most smartphones in Q4/2010, has 22% of tablet market

2011-01-31 Thread Steven Herod
I think the handset manufacturers and telco's are more responsible for these sales figures than any inherent superiority of Android over other platforms. On Feb 1, 6:27 am, Chess chessm...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure Syndrome is quite happy that soon everyone will have an Android device. --

[The Java Posse] Re: software archaeology

2011-01-31 Thread Steven Herod
Agreed, I've often thought about recording walkthroughs of code or project introductions, but most people seem to recoil at the thought... On Feb 1, 1:20 pm, Michael Easter codeto...@gmail.com wrote: I enjoyed Episode 338, esp. near the 19:30 mark where someone (?) referred to software

[The Java Posse] Re: iPhone battery hogs

2011-01-19 Thread Steven Herod
I have an HTC Desire running Cyanogen. 6.1.1 has at least resulted in the battery lasting over night now, but otherwise I go from fully charged to flat between 6am and 11am. If I turn everything on, I can use my phone's battery percentage meter as an egg timer. On Jan 20, 9:38 am, Christian

[The Java Posse] Re: Listener predictions for 2011

2011-01-17 Thread Steven Herod
How do you sync your music Cédric? On Jan 18, 1:26 pm, Cédric Beust ♔ ced...@beust.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Chris Adamson invalidn...@gmail.comwrote: I know, the phrasing is peculiar, but it's an article of faith in the iOS community that Android needs to put up a killer

[The Java Posse] Re: LOL! Tor is so Corporate

2011-01-17 Thread Steven Herod
You mean Safe Harbor Statement Our discussion may include predictions, estimates or other information that While these forward-looking might be considered forward-looking. ent on what the future holds, they statements represent our current judgm that could cause actual results to are subject

[The Java Posse] Re: On Android openness (again)

2010-12-12 Thread Steven Herod
I guess I'd be interested in seeing a list of criteria by which a project/platform can be defined as open and then having Android marked by those criteria. I think a lot of discussion here centers around those criteria. Or is the license the beginning and end of that criteria? On Dec 12, 6:43 

[The Java Posse] Re: The ASF left JCP

2010-12-10 Thread Steven Herod
I've said it before, but the kind of open and freedom that actually matters to me are more in line with actual human rights (ala Amnesty International) than with the machinations of the JCP. Billionaires or idealists and their proxies fighting amongst themselves leaves me indifferent. What I

[The Java Posse] Re: Women Fed Up With Open Source Community Creeps

2010-12-10 Thread Steven Herod
I'm all in favor of men and women being 'different'. The issue I have is the perception that you will be better or worse at something based on your gender. Or that even a gender superiority in a field of endeavor has any applicability to a given situation. i.e. Men may run the 100 metres faster

[The Java Posse] Re: I'm glad I don't have to Fly right now

2010-11-23 Thread Steven Herod
There's an old saying that you should never discuss sex, politics or religion in polite company Can I suggest this thread move to http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/topics or the like? On Nov 24, 12:35 pm, paul.leb...@gmail.com paul.leb...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 24, 9:44 am, Cédric

[The Java Posse] An interesting Point of View about Google's 'success' with Android

2010-11-21 Thread Steven Herod
http://blogs.hbr.org/cs/2010/11/did_google_train_its_own_enemi.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

[The Java Posse] Apple contributes OS X java to Open JDK, Oracle to take over dev and distribution

2010-11-12 Thread Steven Herod
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/11/12openjdk.html Really surprised this hadn't been posted already... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from

[The Java Posse] Re: Hudson hosting?

2010-11-09 Thread Steven Herod
Try these guys http://cloudbees.com/ On Nov 9, 8:00 pm, Fabrizio Giudici fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it wrote: A friend is asking me about providers of Hudson hosting (with some related services, such as Nexus, but also non-Java SDKs...) to externalize his software factory. Where can I find

[The Java Posse] Re: Android Openness (re episode #329)

2010-11-08 Thread Steven Herod
Here are the way in which it isn't open: 1. My Phone manufacturer has provided their user interface, I cannot turn it off 2. I cannot install another version of the operating system without voiding my warranty. 3. My phone company has installed their own applications that I cannot uninstall or

[The Java Posse] Re: Good blogging services?

2010-11-07 Thread Steven Herod
I recommend posterous as well. I ran my own wordpress for about 3 or so years (a long time), and got sick of the constant upgrades and comment spam. Before that, I ran blogger, which I found limited. The other one for short 'brain farts', is tumblr. On Nov 8, 10:42 am, Michael Neale

[The Java Posse] Re: Are Traditional Server-Side Web Frameworks Dead?

2010-11-07 Thread Steven Herod
sorts of limitations that will have you pining for the good ol' days. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1664503/disadvantages-of-the-force... On Nov 4, 8:09 pm, Steven Herod steven.he...@gmail.com wrote: I started at 11.35am and finished at 11.55am http://login.salesforce.com

[The Java Posse] Re: Evolution from web to desktop?

2010-11-05 Thread Steven Herod
I haven't read the full thread, but I'll throw this in. The technical direction of the desktop will be shaped by the skill set. If 'most of' the world knows CSS / JS / HTML etc, then it's going to drive the technical direction, and what ever short comings that are currently in these platforms

[The Java Posse] Re: Are Traditional Server-Side Web Frameworks Dead?

2010-11-04 Thread Steven Herod
I started at 11.35am and finished at 11.55am http://login.salesforce.com/ Username: javapo...@gmail.com Password: contact me You can run your daily report here https://ap1.salesforce.com/00O9001as5W Anybody else can see a few screenshots here:

[The Java Posse] Re: Are Traditional Server-Side Web Frameworks Dead?

2010-11-03 Thread Steven Herod
No, I'm thinking force.com / salesforce.com On Nov 3, 6:31 pm, Casper Bang casper.b...@gmail.com wrote: I think you need to move to a much higher level of abstraction (And less flexibility and higher cost and level of vendor lock in) to get the kind of productivity boosts for these kind of

[The Java Posse] Re: looking for: android podcast client

2010-11-03 Thread Steven Herod
I've just started using doggcatcher. UI is a bit complex, but I like the way I can schedule my downloads when on Wifi and power. On Nov 4, 8:54 am, Graham Allan grundlefl...@googlemail.com wrote: I recommend 'ACast'. ~ Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[The Java Posse] Re: .Net Rocks

2010-11-02 Thread Steven Herod
I don't listen to .net rocks because I'm not a fan of its tone, its got that Leo Laporte shine to it and it annoys me. Hanselminutes tho, I like. Regarding .net vs java. Meh. .Net lacks a lot of frameworks and tooling choices, there is so much 'missing' (Find a message queue implementation...

[The Java Posse] Re: Are Traditional Server-Side Web Frameworks Dead?

2010-10-31 Thread Steven Herod
I've seen this as a consistent issue with a lot of client side javascript eye candy. If you can't print it, then its useless in a chunk of line of business applications. On Oct 31, 7:27 pm, Mark Derricutt m...@talios.com wrote: One of the other interesting problems we've come up against is

[The Java Posse] Re: Email from Jobs re Java on OS-X

2010-10-25 Thread Steven Herod
Wow, someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed today. On Oct 23, 7:39 am, CKoerner chessm...@gmail.com wrote: I never made an argument, just a conclusion. Is that ok with you Forest? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To post

[The Java Posse] Re: latest podcast and how students should learn...

2010-10-25 Thread Steven Herod
You may have forgotten the amount of theory encapsulated in understanding something as simple as hello world. Indeed, a simple servlet throws in about 5x that information. They have 3 to 4 years to get to concurrency, I don't think it needs to be covered at the beginning. On Oct 25, 7:47 am,

[The Java Posse] Re: latest podcast and how students should learn...

2010-10-25 Thread Steven Herod
Define 'learn to program'... GW-Basic on MS Dos 5.0, or Batch file programming was about all I'd done before Uni. Pre-Internet made things a lot harder - the local library only had books on Commodore 64 programming (I remember a book that contained source code for writing your own games). My

[The Java Posse] Re: latest podcast and how students should learn...

2010-10-25 Thread Steven Herod
Yep, sorry, I should have provided more context I did a bit of BASIC, and I wrote fun things/enjoyed myself - but I can't say I 'learned' anything really. Nothing I studied/read at the time described principles... it was just 'do this, get this'. On Oct 26, 12:24 pm, Miroslav Pokorny

[The Java Posse] Re: Apple has just deprecated Java on the Mac!!!

2010-10-21 Thread Steven Herod
Well, its cured me of my Apple fanboi-ness. Hopefully an official JDK/JRE will be provided by Oracle... failing that, I'll consider Ubuntu - that said, I'm very happy with my Windows 7 laptop for work - and I'm finding myself using my MacBook less and less. On Oct 22, 8:56 am, Josh Berry

[The Java Posse] Re: email campaign? Apple has just deprecated Java on the Mac!!!

2010-10-21 Thread Steven Herod
Well, firstly, I think you are denigrating the population, and secondly, I've influenced at least 8 other purchases of Mac's over the years. If I stop buying them, then so will my brother, parents and extended family/non-technical friends. I would hazard a guess that the mac owners on this forum

[The Java Posse] Re: JVM Memory Allocation and what do the Xms and Xmx settings really do?

2010-10-21 Thread Steven Herod
but this is where I get a little fuzzy. Fuzzy? You? Who are you and what have you done with Reinier! :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from

[The Java Posse] Re: The Framework is dead. Long live the CMS.

2010-09-30 Thread Steven Herod
Emphasis on *web site*, not *web application*. Given a copy of Joomla and a $49 pre built theme, one can get a *web site* up and running in about 20 minutes, and yes, building one from scratch is just silly. Of course, I've seen someone get charged $15K by a company for what amounted to a Joomla

[The Java Posse] Re: Tor Joins Google

2010-09-28 Thread Steven Herod
Why does anyone re-write anything? On Sep 28, 2:46 pm, Miroslav Pokorny miroslav.poko...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Steven Herod steven.he...@gmail.comwrote: So... who wants to speculate on Google starting their own, ground up toolchain solution for GWT / Android

[The Java Posse] Re: Tor Leaves Oracle

2010-09-27 Thread Steven Herod
Can you attribute that to 'lack of career path'? I'm putting it down to culture / burn out and in James Gosling's case, the fact he was probably a very well paid guy who was given a vast amount of leeway to do what he liked being given more boundaries that he would want. I'm not basing that on

[The Java Posse] Re: Tor Leaves Oracle

2010-09-27 Thread Steven Herod
On the other note via Tor, again, I believe he spent 12 months working on the JavaFX tooling written in JavaFX to emit JavaFX Script. And now they've canned JavaFX Script. I know if it was me, if I'd poured my soul into something that got that kind of kick, I'd be pretty upset. Upset enough to

[The Java Posse] Re: Tor Leaves Oracle

2010-09-27 Thread Steven Herod
On Sep 27, 5:09 pm, Cédric Beust ♔ ced...@beust.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Steven Herod steven.he...@gmail.comwrote: I know if it was me, if I'd poured my soul into something that got that kind of kick, I'd be pretty upset.  Upset enough to leave It's a reality of our

[The Java Posse] Re: Tor Joins Google

2010-09-27 Thread Steven Herod
So... who wants to speculate on Google starting their own, ground up toolchain solution for GWT / Android / etc that is NOT based on Eclipse or Netbeans On Sep 28, 12:24 pm, Christian Catchpole christ...@catchpole.net wrote: I stand by my idea of re-tweeting the original in new and

[The Java Posse] Re: What do you think went unsaid at JavaOne?

2010-09-23 Thread Steven Herod
On Sep 24, 11:56 am, hayden.paul.jo...@gmail.com hayden.paul.jo...@gmail.com wrote: 1) No news about the Java store. I think we'll chalk it up as 'embarrassing failure' with a small press release remarking its death. 2) No news about ASF and the JCK.  By the way, what's wrong with them just

[The Java Posse] Re: JavaFX script to be dropped, JavaFX 2.0 will be an API on the JVM, usable from Java

2010-09-21 Thread Steven Herod
So, JavaFX Script is dead, long live JavaFX. On the plus side, there are a heap of good things about this. It stops the 'why the new language' debates, it means people with enthusiasm for Groovy/Scala/Java will get on board with the API, tooling deficiencies will go away (if you stick with

[The Java Posse] Re: Facebook rumored to fork Android?

2010-09-21 Thread Steven Herod
Do any of these parties compete meaningfully with Google for online advertising revenue? On Sep 21, 6:53 am, Cédric Beust ♔ ced...@beust.com wrote: There are already dozens of manufacturers/third parties/carriers that forked Android and shipped products with it without ever notifying Google

[The Java Posse] Re: JavaFX script to be dropped, JavaFX 2.0 will be an API on the JVM, usable from Java

2010-09-21 Thread Steven Herod
Actually, I should temper my statement now I've read this: http://fxexperience.com/ The best part... 'we're hiring' and a list of positions. That alone is different to what has happened the past few years. Hope springs eternal. On Sep 22, 9:53 am, Steven Herod steven.he...@gmail.com wrote: So

[The Java Posse] Re: Scala vs. Groovy

2010-09-16 Thread Steven Herod
Absolutely :) On Sep 16, 4:49 pm, Ricky Clarkson ricky.clark...@gmail.com wrote: And the Java guys are the same people aged ten years? :) On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:09 AM, Steven Herod steven.he...@gmail.comwrote: Do you see a 'time in the industry' difference between the Ruby purists

[The Java Posse] Re: Scala vs. Groovy

2010-09-15 Thread Steven Herod
Do you see a 'time in the industry' difference between the Ruby purists and the Java purists? I have a stereotype of main stream Ruby developers being cocking young things in cool t-shirts who think they've discovered the secret sauce of the universe (and think they know better). (Yes, sweeping

[The Java Posse] Re: In a perfect world: How android and oracle could have gotten along.

2010-09-13 Thread Steven Herod
They are a business company and they couldn't care less about Java or developers. Google of course being an entirely philanthropic organisation devoted to curing world hunger and making the lives of first world developers a floating palace of love. :o) -- You received this message because

[The Java Posse] Re: Scala vs. Groovy

2010-09-12 Thread Steven Herod
I've worked on projects with a couple of hundreds of thousands of lines of PHP in a 'mission critical' environment. I've also done work with Java, Ruby/JRuby or Groovy/Grails, JavaFX and most recently Salesforce.com's Apex. I've not touched Scala beyond starting to read a book on the subject.

[The Java Posse] Re: Request for scala fans.

2010-09-10 Thread Steven Herod
This thread would be a lot better, faster and easier to read and reply to if it were written in Scala. On Sep 10, 8:42 pm, Ricky Clarkson ricky.clark...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, conspiracy theory time! Reinier, the initiator of this thread, works on Project Lombok, which uses annotation

[The Java Posse] Re: Thoughtworks technology radar report

2010-09-03 Thread Steven Herod
Thoughtworks is pitching for business against big consulting companies, it support their branding as a 'dynamic/agile' company to be seen to be supporting dynamic/agile languages and technology. But it does point to perception, which is 95% of reality. If Java gets the rep as yesterdays tech

[The Java Posse] Re: Time For A Break

2010-09-02 Thread Steven Herod
As an Australian, every day of our existence is basically a large holiday. But officially, 20 paid days per annum, accruing each pay period (fortnight or monthly). Usually get an additional 5 days per year sick leave (paid). Long service leave kicks in at 10 year mark with one employer, and you

[The Java Posse] Re: flash on android

2010-09-02 Thread Steven Herod
sites :) But when Google says HTML5 they really means (HTML5 + CSS + JS) Actionscript is based on JavaScript ( ECMAScript )! From that list of 10 sites - don't see anything that can't be done with HTML5 + CSS + JS :) Paul On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Steven Herod

[The Java Posse] Re: Management: For now Java is no longer an option for new development

2010-09-01 Thread Steven Herod
Your management wins this years award for knee jerk reactions then... On Aug 31, 3:00 am, CKoerner chessm...@gmail.com wrote: Subject says it all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To post to this group, send email to

[The Java Posse] Re: flash on android

2010-08-31 Thread Steven Herod
Have a look at these and get back to me. http://www.ebizmba.com/articles/best-flash-sites On Sep 1, 2:19 pm, work only vorlonsw...@gmail.com wrote: It will be a while before HTML 5 comes remotely close to what can be done easily with Flash today. Plus that was just video (not really

[The Java Posse] Re: The Patent Thermonuclear War: Paul Allen sues everybody (not a joke)

2010-08-28 Thread Steven Herod
I think they tried that approach in World War 1. Oddly enough, it didn't work out that way. Human nature I guess. I think we just need to remember, these are big companies run by rich people (mainly), it doesn't effect our lives directly in any great way. Let them throw cake. On Aug 28, 9:26 

[The Java Posse] Re: Mushroom season - New language each year

2010-08-27 Thread Steven Herod
And in the meantime, whilst we occupy ourselves arguing over minutia of programming languages, people like Salesforce are out there taking development projects off us all :) On Aug 28, 9:30 am, Reinier Zwitserloot reini...@gmail.com wrote: Nice, another language. One of these days one of them

[The Java Posse] Re: When corporates blatantly lie

2010-08-26 Thread Steven Herod
As a follow up, I've updated my HTC Desire with the Cyanogenmod and Froyo (version 6, RC 2) and its working a lot better than the default Sense UI that ships with HTC. I was very reluctant to do this kind of hack, mainly because I'm losing the apples to apples comparison between what a normal

[The Java Posse] Re: What could Oracle possibly be scheming?

2010-08-16 Thread Steven Herod
Out of curiosity, in all of this, we're absolutely certain no former Sun engineers, fresh from patenting a concept at Sun (or working on said patented code) moved to Google and reimplemented the same thing the same way? On Aug 16, 10:04 am, Andrew am2...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 14, 9:01 am,

[The Java Posse] Re: What could Oracle possibly be scheming?

2010-08-16 Thread Steven Herod
. On Aug 16, 5:39 pm, B Smith-Mannschott bsmith.o...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 09:27, Steven Herod steven.he...@gmail.com wrote: Out of curiosity, in all of this, we're absolutely certain no former Sun engineers, fresh from patenting a concept at Sun (or working on said patented

[The Java Posse] Re: What could Oracle possibly be scheming?

2010-08-16 Thread Steven Herod
That's a good article... On Aug 16, 6:09 pm, Fabrizio Giudici fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry for repeating the post, but I just figured out this is the better thread... Suggested read:

[The Java Posse] Re: What could Oracle possibly be scheming?

2010-08-14 Thread Steven Herod
Maybe its just the money. For $50 million in costs, they might earn 100, 200, 500? 1 billion dollars? Who knows.. As far as losing developer good will / PR well... can you quantify that in cash, especially amongst Oracle's customers, I mean Sun spent a lot of time/money winning over developers

[The Java Posse] Re: JavaFx and disappointment

2010-08-12 Thread Steven Herod
:) It was your tweet I saw mentioning redistribution of the runtime... On Aug 12, 10:03 pm, opinali opin...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 ago, 22:55, jahid jsho...@gmail.com wrote: I did catch a comment that 1.3.1 (just released) lets you package the javafx runtime yourself, but I can't find

[The Java Posse] Re: JavaFx and disappointment

2010-08-11 Thread Steven Herod
On Aug 12, 6:50 am, jahid jsho...@gmail.com wrote: Use case: We are making a desktop application which will include database on client side, and remote communication. We decided to use JavaDB(Derby),  because the client does not have to install the DB, Are you sure? If I recall JavaDB is

[The Java Posse] Re: Fastest way to parse data out of array of bytes?

2010-07-31 Thread Steven Herod
So, can I ask, do you actually *have* a performance problem right now? What the size of this problem (Things take 1 minute when you need them in 20 seconds?) On Jul 22, 12:18 am, Alan Kent alan.j.k...@saic.com wrote: I was wondering what the fastest way (most highly performant) was to parse

[The Java Posse] Re: Implement CAPTCHA in j2ee app

2010-07-23 Thread Steven Herod
Used this with some success http://jcaptcha.sourceforge.net/ On Jul 24, 8:20 am, phm pritam.mun...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Has any one experience with java utilities to implement captcha in j2ee web application? Any pointers which libraries I can try/evaluate for my needs? I need to

[The Java Posse] Re: Distributing Java program on Ubuntu 10

2010-07-15 Thread Steven Herod
No, you can sign the app and request additional permissions with JNLP The trouble is, how big is your app/what does it do? I've worked in an environment where we deployed a web app over JNLP to users desktops (on Windows mainly), it was about 50MB is size and distributed over the Internet.

[The Java Posse] Re: Subliminal messages...

2010-07-02 Thread Steven Herod
I tracked the progress of the Ruby / Rails support on Netbeans when you were building it Tor and was stunned at how quickly it seemed to come together and surpass the Eclipse plugin at the time. Hats off to you... It's been many a time when I wished you'd done the JavaFX support. *sigh* On Jul

[The Java Posse] Re: Text cast ?

2010-06-30 Thread Steven Herod
I've tried several with no luck, particularly reading source code is just awful. I thought there might be a market for 'tech briefing' podcast, where someone simply and straightforwardly explains a given topic and its components in a mp3 player friendly way. On Jun 30, 7:42 pm, Jan Goyvaerts

[The Java Posse] Re: Sun is 'profitable' now.

2010-06-29 Thread Steven Herod
and definitely for developers... Regards, JD On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Moandji Ezana mwa...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 4:25 AM, Steven Herod steven.he...@gmail.com wrote: What a difference a change in management makes. The article says: Oracle said that had Sun remained

[The Java Posse] Re: Privacy concerns for Apple and Android

2010-06-28 Thread Steven Herod
Meh, its just an example of the 'if we asked the user for permission, then its not our fault if it goes wrong' mentality that's I considered Windows UAC to be the king of. The Android open store thing worries me, if a company is selling something in their store they have a responsibility to

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