Robert Hanson wrote the following on 16/07/2010 01:37:
Arie, question for you: I see the two polyhedra models in the PDF file.
But I can't figure out what is going on with the rotation. How is it
that it is working just like jmol, sort of, with the axis in the bottom
left corner spinning
Van der Lee wrote:
Yes for sure; it would be nice if we could verify the intermediate
steps; so I repeat my question: is there an independant idtf/u3d viewer?
Arie I have installed Deep View from Right Hemisphere, and it opens
U3D files. (I think you need the Complete version, it is free.)
OK, I'm in! I have MikTex working and I'm looking at my first PDF document.
Here was my sequence. Needs refinement, of course!
# Installation of Miktex (Windows):
1. Download and install Miktex basic from http://miktex.org/
2. Do an update [Start...Programs...MikTex...Maintenance]
3. Open the
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Van der Lee avder...@univ-montp2.fr wrote:
Bob's fix worked well (thanks!):
http://www.dicoscouts.x10hosting.com/perez.pdf
Can anyone suggest a reader for Linux that supports this live content?
I tried Okular [0], but that showed an empty slide :(
Egon
2010/7/16 Angel Herráez angel.herr...@uah.es
So POV-Ray output uses screen coordinates, while VRML output uses 3d
coordinates in the model's axes system. That's the difference between
both types of exporters as I see it.
Yes, that's it. I wasn't imagining that people would go in and tweak
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
Arie, question for you: I see the two polyhedra models in the PDF file. But
I can't figure out what is going on with the rotation. How is it that it is
working just like jmol, sort of, with the axis in the bottom left
Robert Hanson wrote the following on 16/07/2010 12:44:
OK, I'm in! I have MikTex working and I'm looking at my first PDF
document. Here was my sequence. Needs refinement, of course!
6. Open doc.pdf
Now, the rotation and zoom and all will be off. We should be able to fix
that,
Egon Willighagen wrote the following on 16/07/2010 12:46:
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Van der Lee avder...@univ-montp2.fr wrote:
Bob's fix worked well (thanks!):
http://www.dicoscouts.x10hosting.com/perez.pdf
Can anyone suggest a reader for Linux that supports this live content?
I
Arie,
I've checked in code for Jmol 12.0.RC26 that:
1) creates .idtf.tex along with .idtf
2) gets the orientation correct
3) gets the scale correct
4) rotates the model around the correct center
The result is that if you have not rotated the model, or if the model center
is also the
I've uploaded the files for 1crn default view at
http://stolaf.edu/people/hansonr/jmol/test/pdf so you can see where I am at.
Bob
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
Arie,
I've checked in code for Jmol 12.0.RC26 that:
1) creates .idtf.tex along with
OK. Just for reference, here are the issues:
-- In Jmol the center of window (mouse) rotation is not necessarily the
point {0 0 0} nor is it necessarily the center of the model.
-- In Jmol the center of rotation may not be positioned directly in front of
the user, at the window center. It may be
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 05:47:52 -0500
From: Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu
Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] idtf output for polyhedral structures
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Thomas, Bob,
I'd love to see a short how to! :)
-Tom
Maybe I can satisfy you both at the same time.
Bob's fix worked well (thanks!):
http://www.dicoscouts.x10hosting.com/perez.pdf
For those of you who never opened an interactive pdf before some
guidelines:
1) click on the
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Van der Lee avder...@univ-montp2.frwrote:
Thomas, Bob,
I'd love to see a short how to! :)
-Tom
Maybe I can satisfy you both at the same time.
Bob's fix worked well (thanks!):
http://www.dicoscouts.x10hosting.com/perez.pdf
For those of
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Van der Lee avder...@univ-montp2.frwrote:
3)pdflatex a file like the following minimal example
Is there a Windows equivalent for this?
--
Robert M. Hanson
Professor of Chemistry
St. Olaf College
1520 St. Olaf Ave.
Northfield, MN 55057
Robert Hanson wrote the following on 15/07/2010 17:35:
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Van der Lee avder...@univ-montp2.fr
mailto:avder...@univ-montp2.fr wrote:
3)pdflatex a file like the following minimal example
Is there a Windows equivalent for this?
?? (pdf)latex is
Robert Hanson wrote the following on 15/07/2010 17:33:
AH-HAH! That's what I've been looking for. How do these values for 3D
parameters relate to our perspective in Jmol? We can have Jmol write
this file if you can explain it.
4) decomment in a first run the \movieref line.
Well, we're in good company. I admit to not knowing anything about
perspective and motion in U3D. the motion frame stuff there is just an early
attempt I had at trying to get this to work. I think the IDTF converter is
buggy in this regard -- I certainly could never get it to work properly. I'm
Arie, question for you: I see the two polyhedra models in the PDF file. But
I can't figure out what is going on with the rotation. How is it that it is
working just like jmol, sort of, with the axis in the bottom left corner
spinning around its center, but how then is the model spinning around a
to impossible as the objects
aren't centered. It is quite easy with Deep View's direct POV-Ray output; I
don't know about Pymol but I know Eran has made eMovie for PyMol
Wayne
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 18:05:41 +0200
From: Van der Lee avder...@univ-montp2.fr
Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] idtf
I'll do so, tomorrow or on the latest friday. I have got enthousiastic
reactions last week at a crystallography congress in Strasbourg,
France: how do you do? Can you do it with polyhedra ...
Arie
Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu a écrit :
I'd love to see some of these PDF files.
On Tue,
Thanks -- should be an easy fix. Just not doing the right coordinate
conversion.
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:51 AM, Van der Lee avder...@univ-montp2.frwrote:
Hello all,
I have been making very nice interactive pdf-presentations for molecular
compounds using the IDTF export option of Jmol (and
I'd love to see some of these PDF files.
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:51 AM, Van der Lee avder...@univ-montp2.frwrote:
Hello all,
I have been making very nice interactive pdf-presentations for molecular
compounds using the IDTF export option of Jmol (and then by converting
to u3d and creating
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