enumeration.
Yep, 2.1 and 2.2 had some unfortunate backward compatibility issues.
The articles in my sig explain what changed and why.
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Actually, if you upload your files to different directories you can
accomplish this as well. Also, there'll be a more customizable version
of MultipartRequest coming soon. Stay tuned.
(There's a servlets-announce list on Servlets.com if you want to know
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Thomas W. Hohler wrote:
I was looking for some ISP that support JSP.
Does anybody have some ideas???
Nick Lawson wrote:
Hi,
Does anybody have any recommendations for reliable, low cost web
hosting services that support JSP.
Two questions answered with one stone, I can't resist. I keep
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need to know whether Java is on or off, you can't know by sniffing
headers. They've sold this BrowserHawk tool in the ASP market for
years. They're now interested in supporting servlets/JSP. I say
that's a *very* good sign.
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hit the JSP at the
same time; the file may be served half-completed.
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ec version, and that changes day by day.
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Hi everyone,
I just posted a new article on Servlets.com titled, "Reactions to The
Problems with JSP". It's a collection of the most interesting feedback
received from the article posted two weeks ago, and a look at what I
believe the article accomplished.
From the first paragraph:
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too large. The person who hit this
problem was investigating adding this capability to Tomcat.
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Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
How many development tools do we expect to see targeted at JSP
syntax vs. any other given scripting language? :-)
I'm beginning to feel like how I'd feel if I were arguing that Linux
is better than Windows, and people are responding that Windows has
more apps and
Ray Cromwell wrote:
Exactly! There are choices. Examine your options. Don't
believe that JSP is the only alternative. The programmers who
developed the above tools probably would have used JSP had it
suited their task, but it didn't so they wrote their own. Maybe
their tool suits
Scott Stirling wrote:
I got the point of the non-JSP alternatives being available and
perhaps overlooked.
Glad to hear it.
I also got the one that JSP shouldn't be seen as the logical
replacement for servlets.
Also good.
But I didn't like some of the red herring and
straw man arguments
OK, I'm done with this thread, at least for today. I have to get back
to real work!
Hopefully I've accomplished what I set out to do: Make people realize
that there are alternatives to JSP, and make people think about why
they're choosing JSP.
It appears not many people on this list have
Anyway, what is so special about WebMacro in particular? Why not use
Cocoon, Turbine, Freemarker, OTembo or even ECS? They all offer
similar features and I daresay, some of them are probably better
supported than WebMacro.
Exactly! There are choices. Examine your options. Don't believe
Geoff Soutter wrote:
One of the main problems with JSP is it's origins: copying a
Micro$oft product (ASP) is not necessarily the right way to start
off! In fact, upon original release it looked to me like a somewhat
flaky research project that had been picked up and shoved out into
the
Whew, so much feedback to the article! This is great.
I'm going to respond individually to the posts, but apart from that:
What I want people to realize from the article is that JSP is not a
"sure thing" solution, there are alternatives to JSP, and documentation
such as Sun's APM that mentions
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To me, a template engines syntax means learning
a lot more than JSP syntax.
I think it depends on your starting point. I'm comfortable using JSP
too, because I understand what's going on underneath. I'd rather not
have to think about that though.
Sure, you can
David Wall wrote:
it's definitely riskly to speak highly of
Microsoft in a Linux community as it is to suggest the JSPs are
not the end-all in a JSP community smile
Yes, members of the WebMacro mailing list have been far more
supportive. Go figure.
Why did they have to come up with some
Ray Cromwell wrote:
Comments:
This is basically a summary of the same thing you said during the
last flamewar on this list concerning WebMacro where you tried to
assert several things
(Note he later realized it was Justin Wells who made these assertions
previously.)
Problem #1: Java
Kevin Duffey wrote:
Hi,
Dang..I have to say, that was WELL put. I responded with what I
figured was why JSP is superior, and you blew my response right
off the map! :)
:-)
I think J2EE is a "bigger" reason than others to use JSP.
Interesting. It doesn't really effect my decision since
Agreed. Competition is good. I just think since JSP is part of the
plan for J2EE and supports the write once run anywhere, including
the nice .war file where you can jar up a whole web dir and move it
to any platform..that JSP is the way to go.
Templates run anywhere. Templates can use the
Ethan Henry wrote:
Perhaps it's time for a JSR for a standard servlet-based template
engine?
Does everything under the "Sun" need to be a standard? What's wrong
with developing multiple solutions based on servlets and letting people
choose their favorite? JSP, templating, XML/XSL, ECS. All
Duffey Kevin wrote:
I cant imagine why 30MB would be so little unless
your developing a large corporate site,
Mainly, it's the easy ability to %@ include large data files with a
JSP-included banner and footer that makes your size easy to bloat.
At any rate, I can understand your 30MB limit,
I mean..if all you had to do was put a bunch of %= bean.getXXX() %
on a page, how hard is that to learn?
That was my argument in the early days of JSP. But jsp:getProperty
name="foo"/ syntax won out as the recommended approach.
As another fellow responded to you, I dont see much difference
Hans Bergsten wrote:
First, I'm sure we can argue this back and forth forever without
totally convincing each other. But hopefully we, and others, can
at least learn something about the pros and cons with the two
alternatives.
Exactly! I say you should use whatever you like. I'm just
template engines.
The article is available at:
http://www.servlets.com/soapbox/problems-jsp.html
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fo and source is
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"attributes" is a Hashtable, so where's the ISE come in?
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be what you're
using? WS 3.0 appears better.
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inking; should cause no harm in the standard case and may help in
this odd case. Please let me know how it goes.
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Paul Holser wrote:
jason hunter, author of "Java Servlet Programming"
(O'Reilly tea kettle book), offers a nice servlet
request parameter parsing class in his com.oreilly.servlet
package. check out http://www.servlets.com/resources/index.html
for more details.
Thanks, Pau
seen problems using IE4 on Win95. Have you always had success
there?
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Kirkdorffer, Daniel wrote:
In the Servlet Tools, Components, Frameworks category the
winners were (Jason Hunter please take a bow...):
Happily!
Makes me wonder if the classes are really popular or if some JavaReport
writer just *really needed* to do file upload one day. :-)
Anyway
commercial products, but
that just proves JSP isn't a "toy".
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DAVE TOWNSEND wrote:
I know of a couple of places that do free web-hosting with
CGI-BIN, but does anybody know of any that do it with either jsp, or
servlets?
Look at the mycgiserver listing at
http://www.servlets.com/resources/urls/isps.html.
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didn't see any special limit to the
attachement for this size (there is one, but it limits the size at 1
Mb).
Right, there's not much in the class that could cause 150 bytes to
disappear. And the 1 Meg limit is user-settable, intended to protect
from denial of service attacks.
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You see no errors, just partial file contents? That's odd. If that's
the case, it sounds like a web server bug. What server are you using?
Can you try things with the JSWDK and see if the files work with the
reference implementation?
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TK Sung wrote:
Yeah, except that, unlike ASP, you have to pay for JSP.
tk.
Linux - Apache - GNUJSP: FREE
Windows - IIS - ASP: NOT FREE
The free path is more stable and scalable besides.
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commercial vendor, and I believe (again, correct if wrong) you miss out
on many of the native COM/DCOM components that make ASP useful on
Windows.
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Richard Yumul wrote:
According to the O'Reilly book, Java Servlet Programming (Jason
Hunter), on p44 it states that beans which
"implement the javax.servlet.Servlet interface (either directly or
by extending GenericServlet or HttpServlet), it will call the
bean's service() method
Bogdan Ghidireac wrote:
Hi,
I am trying to send a mp3 file from my JSP but it is not working well
beacause the "out" is a PrintWriter .
Is it possible to send raw data from JSP ?
Nope, that's not what JSP is for. Use a servlet.
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Gabriel Wong wrote:
page 44 the footnote (1) regarding isthreadsafe starts off with "If
isthreadsafe="true"". I am assuming this is a typo and it should
be "false".
Any comments?
Yep. Post to jsp-feedback to be sure they'll see it.
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Rod McChesney wrote:
Couldn't content type just go in a meta tag in the HTML HEAD tag?
Sure, but that wouldn't suffice. The JspWriter wouldn't correctly
print characters outside the Latin-1 charset. (Assuming it rightly
refrains from trying to parse the HTML HEAD tag.)
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Whoops, misspoke there, there is no content_type directive anymore.
It's probably something we need reinstated because setting the charset
programatically with a scriptlet doesn't reset the PrintWriter.
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out for drinks where they discussion
continues. Usually before the night's over someone's been hired. :-)
Hey, that's what happens at nerd gatherings.
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