On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Gladwell, Ricardo wrote:
And what are JSP and ASP pages if not dynamically generated web content
produced by an external program from an HTTP server? If they are not CGI
then what are they, just out of interest?
Can't say for ASP, but JSP and servlets are (usually?)
and customizing the functionality
of servers, but doing it in different ways.
Scott Stirling
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From: "Gladwell, Ricardo" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 4:32 AM
Subject: Re: My boss needs convincing..
And what are JSP and
, March 08, 2000 9:26 AM
To: 'Bobby Kaushal'
Subject: RE: My boss needs convincing..
Dear Bobby,
get out of programming analysts business: a .JSP file
extension does not mean at ALL that JavaServer Pages are
running. It is likely, but any type of CGI could use the file
extensions
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From: Geert Van Damme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 12:52 PM
To: Gladwell, Ricardo
Subject: RE: My boss needs convincing..
No it's not (is that a raindrop? ;-)
CGI is in fact just a specification and it's true
Hi,
IMHO, I think you should revise your analisys. The notion that files
that end up with "jsp" have to be Java Server Pages, with "asp" -
Active Server Pages is like saying that if a file is .txt, it means is a
text file and if it doesn't ent with .txt, it's not. So it's completely
wrong. And
-Original Message-
From: Gladwell, Ricardo
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 9:26 AM
To: 'Bobby Kaushal'
Subject: RE: My boss needs convincing..
Dear Bobby,
get out of programming analysts business: a .JSP file
extension does not mean at ALL that JavaServer Pages are
running
Title: re: My boss needs convincing
Regarding certain emails that i have received and replies on the jsp-interest newsgroup that I read regarding what i said about .jsp extensions must be Java Server Pages, let me clarify what I said.
First and foremost i still stand by what i've said, .jsp
Title: re: My boss needs convincing..
Just
because a page has a particular extension doesnt mean it implementsthat
particular technology. The extension of a page has absolutely nothing to do with
the technology used to generate it - its just the default extension for that
technology
it in, you
better get a lawyer.
Thor HW
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From: Roongnapa Chadtianchai [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: My boss needs convincing.
I agree with you. You are right. To consider the other strengthes of
Java, I
Title: re: My boss needs convincing..
You are pretty funny (why people that don't check things, get
sooo excited is beyond me), now for some enlightenment.
.jsp is the standard extension for the BROADVISION server, out
long befor JAVA Server Pages. It uses Javascript, hence the .jsp extension
Title: re: My boss needs convincing..
And for what the initial email that the above
reader responded to, there is no reason in this universe that anyone would
want to use cgi instead of JSPs. CGI is the worst technology that the
internet was ever corrupted with. It's so slow, it's
kevin carothers wrote:
One thing to consider is that it is ridiculously easy to decompile
java class files... you have to obfuscate them, and then
completely re-test. Usually complicated problems don't obfuscate well.
..
but there's always other ways. You can convert your java
Introduction to Servlets
Servlets vs. CGI
Common Gateway Interface (CGI) was the dominant interface for extending
web servers for
years. Because CGI support was built into every web server on the
market, CGI was a great
choice for development tools and applications that could add dynamic
Try www.alltel.com. Click on Shop Online. The front end of e-store
application is jsp pages. The site is slow because of Network problems.
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Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jesse
Bobby Kaushal wrote:
Someone wrote as a reply that pages with the extenision .jsp is not
necessarily a java server page, it's just a dynamically created page,
all i have to say is: Wht?
Of course it's a java server page, active server pages have the
extension .asp and java server
the
company is called broadvision.
So, just because it ends in jsp, don't assume that it is a JavaServerPage.
Thor HW
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From: Jesse Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: My boss needs convincing.
?D
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actually JSP (JavaServerPages).
Thor HW
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From: Shun, Vadim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: My boss needs convincing.
Is not this page written in Javascript?
Vadim Shun
NEW Corp
Dulles, VA
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To: "Jesse Clark" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re: My boss needs convincing.
Not every page ending in .jsp is a Java Server Page. There is, from the
looks of it fairly popular, server that uses server-side javascript. All of
it's pages end with jsp
Title: re: My boss needs convincing..
Someone wrote as a reply that pages with the extenision .jsp is not necessarily a java server page, it's just a dynamically created page, all i have to say is: Wht?
Of course it's a java server page, active server pages have the extension .asp
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Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: My boss needs convincing.
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Ask him to visit Shockwave.com
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day, February 27, 2000 8:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: My boss needs convincing.
I love java. but it will always be slower. Because it it is compiled
into the byte complier. then run in a virtual machine.
On 25 Feb 00, at 11:15, Todd L. Poole wrote:
My boss seems to have the
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Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2000 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: My boss needs convincing.
what stone has your boss been under the past five years?
java is not slow! true, you don't use it for creating desktop apps, but on
the server it is great. first off, tell him to look at www.volano.com
Is not this page written in Javascript?
Vadim Shun
NEW Corp
Dulles, VA
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From: Dennis Huang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2000 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: My boss needs convincing.
Ask him to visit Shockwave.com
http://www.shockwave.com/bin/shockwave
ts a little
off topic but it does affect overall performance in jsp/servlet/bean driven
web aps... -Oh, ok, ok. I'll go subscribe to JDBC-interest)
_jesse
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From: Todd L. Poole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 3:16 AM
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" business rules to users,
or possible competitors, WATCH OUT
kevin carothers
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Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2000 8:09 AM
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to individual pages as requests
come in.
From: "Todd L. Poole" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "Todd L. Poole" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: My boss needs convincing.
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:15:36 -0500
My boss seems to have the "software engineer" backgroun
I love java. but it will always be slower. Because it it is compiled
into the byte complier. then run in a virtual machine.
On 25 Feb 00, at 11:15, Todd L. Poole wrote:
My boss seems to have the "software engineer" background and is continuously
critical about web technology that I work with.
, 2000 3:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: My boss needs convincing.
My boss seems to have the "software engineer" background and is continuously
critical about web technology that I work with. I develop web application
using ASP and a database alone. I am not using any of my own componen
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