Does anyone have a complete set of the parts for the original main wheel
retract system for the KR2 they would like to sell. Respond to
patru...@myfairpoint.net. Thank you.
Pat
>
- Original Message -
From: "David Russo"
To: "'Patrick and Robin Russo'"
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 8:46 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Flaps Effectiveness?
> That sounds right, but you could equally make the plane stall with flaps
> up
> in a
ay, August 25, 2010 8:00 PM
Subject: KR> KR2 Retract Landing Gear
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 14:17:25 -0400
> From: "Patrick and Robin Russo"
> Subject: Re: KR> Sunday Morning Flight
> To: "KRnet"
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
Engine types, Great Plains, Revmaster, etc.?? Any logs for frame and or
engine? Any accident history and is the original makers placque still
affixed within??? Fixed or retractable??
- Original Message -
From: "Jim Sellars"
To: ;
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 10:32 AM
Subject: RE
1-Have aquired an older unfinished project, boat stage...and plan to stretch
it two feet. I have successfully done 18" in the past but now I thought I
would beg the comments from others and to see if anyone else out there has
stretched this lenght. 2-This will be my fourth KR project. Unfortunat
Hi Stef
I do know your web site and enjoyed it. I am stretching AN EXISTING KR2. I
am planning on a 2 feet extension. Building the stretch from the beginning
is easy but adding 2 feet to an existing structure can be quite challenging.
I was wondering if anyone else has experience with this. I wa
Larry Knox, I have been trying to (reply) contact you regarding the landing
gear but your e-mail address la...@lebanair.com is not working.
Pat Russo
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Hi all
Looking for a drawing or print of dual control sticks for the KR. The
archives say loads about dual sticks but there isn't a print or sketch.!
As a matter of fact there does not appear to be any access to photos or
prints on the site. Am I missing something?
Pat Russo
- Original M
Perhaps you're right, I shouldn.t be building an airplane. I shall remember
that after I finish the 3 that I am doing at present which are projects
#8, 9and 10. Some of us browse the archives for the ideas, different and
more simple ideas and that surfaces when we look at the many ways othe
ou off the net. I have no use for it
> because my project is a single seat KR2 with side a stick.
>
> - Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick and Robin Russo"
> To: "KRnet"
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:18:32 AM
> Subject: Re: KR> dual s
Interesting thought Peter.
- Original Message -
From: "Peter Johnson"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: KR> dual stick assembly
>I haven't read all the posts about the dual stick assembly so this may have
> been mentioned...
>
> Have you thought about i
Isn' t a Standard KR2 a side stick?? It's on my right or my left depending
on where I sit, but always at my side! Is it possible that the sensitivety
of the stick you experienced was because of the geometry of the attach
points and it's lenght??
Pat R
- Original Message -
From: "Marty M
Larry
Where can I get the co-ordinates for the "other airfoil"? And, which one
will yield 10MPH more..and again, with spars already done per KR plans do
they need to be re-done for the different foil or simply modified?
Pat
- Original Message -
From: "Larry&Sallie Flesner"
To: "KRnet"
Eric
If you suggest that it will take more strenght than one might have to
comfortably pull the lever to deploy the brake, it is unlikely. I remember a
question on the final exam in college (more than 50 years ago); "What is the
relative weight of a 3800 lb automobile traveling at 55MPH?" As I r
Neal, NOT a slurry., that would be too resin wet, adding unnecessary weight
and it will be difficult to sand. A creamy peanut butter consistency works
best for me. I use 4" wide by three" squeegees made from scrap vinyl
siding...for spreading.
Pat Russo
> What ratio are you using when you mix
I'm always looking for the perfect adjective to describe the desired
consistency of micro mix. Toothpaste! that's as good as it gets! Thanks Joe
>
I need wing attach fittings for two aircraft. Before I begin making them; Is
any out there with a set for sale or trade? I have a set of Diehl wing skins
for the Horiz. Stab, elevator, Vert stab and rudder that I would trade off.
Pat Russo
>
Emory, been trying to open that site but it does not work.
Pat
- Original Message -
From: "Emory Luth"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: KR> WAF
> >
>> I need wing attach fittings for two aircraft. Before I begin making them;
>> Is
>> any out there wit
Gentlemen,
remember this axiom; "A battle of wits with the witless is indeed a losing
battle"! Do not respond in anger.These publications and their writers can
some times be very disappointing to many of us who contribute to them.
You can take solace in another old saying, this one from the gr
Quite a bit of time was spent today researching the source for alum Tee bar as
suggested by Dean Collins's hinge and control arm mods.. To no avail save for
the comments found on the KR web site. I did discover that 6063 T5 mentioned on
that site as the grade of Tee stock found at the local har
Geez, it comes down to this; does one single bolt and spacer weigh less than
two?!!
>
Very cool looking seafury craig. I shall be borrowing ideas and watching
with interest. I also have taken the KR construction a bit further. One of
my present projects is a 70% AT6 Texan and is in the boat stage. I did
contact WAR and purchased a set of prints for their landing gear, but am
loo
It is very much an option tho I do not know if others have done any more
than consider it. We have to realize that it is more than a skin change. It
will require different and more ribs. It does not lend itself to sculpting
has we do on the Rand wings and of course we have to consider the incre
What if it were true that the pilot had 50 years of flying experience and
several hundred hours in the very same plane. Would you still suggest pitch
sensitivity?? There are many other possible causes for this accident and
many of us older (over seventy ) pilots would concludeoops, that was
It is unlikely that you will need a laser level for anything.
- Original Message -
From: "Craig Williams"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:01 PM
Subject: KR> laser level advice
> Help
>
> Ok I am starting to accumulate tools for my build and I need advise on a
> laser
> level. L
It's about 36" at the shoulders above the aft spar, but tapers down to about
32" at the spar where your butts will be sitting. This is not all that comfy
for us heavier folks. I would suggest adding 2" or more to these dimensions
as many others have done. Think about headroom as well...some peop
You will be doing a round cowl as well, right? Your rendition looks a bit
more exciting than the original. On my last plane I painted it grey, drab
military naval grey to no ill affect. That plane was done 100% West System
Epoxy. Get their manual, it's free from Wicks. Keep at it, DO NOT LISTEN
And where do you intend to drop them,... on final?? Craig, I suspect that
you are spoofing us.- Original Message -
From: "Craig Williams"
To:
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:44 PM
Subject: KR> Here's something to ponder
> More crazy ideas from the Sea Fury guy. I got a millio
Dual sticks and retracts go together for me. When teaching grandchildren how
to fly, for me it would seem most comfortable to have the throttle in the
center for ease and access to both occupants and the dual sticks so that the
center is free of obstruction for retracting gear. On one of my curr
Joe
Are you asking if you could use the spring bar in place of the Diehl glass
springs?. If so are you planning on cutting them to Diehl Lenght? Making
your own mounting and axle brackets? Or, simply moving the bar to the rear
of the main spar? That begs other questions such as control stick loc
Yes Paul. I believe my old 1970's plans has an alternative engine
installation print that has a drive pulley on the flywheel turning a slick
magneto. My brother-in-law put an alternator in place of the mag. This was
done in the rear tho.
- Original Message -
From:
To: "KRnet Posting"
Derek, bear in mind that the distance between stick center lines changes
with the width of the boat. Mine are 15.5" on center (stock boat width)
while others (with wider fuselages) have up to 20".
> -Original Message-
> Does anyone know anywhere to buy a Dual Stick Assembly for my KR-2
Craig, you are on your way. Good going. I have two comments if I may. I did
build the same gear years ago and you are very close to retractable should
you desire to go that route. On mine, I welded a stub shaft on the WAF and a
piece of tubing on the upper end of the gear leg that slid over the
You've got me thinking here! Is that wire the same that Remington developed
for hacksaws some decades back? What is the diameter and where did you
locate it? I have several aluminum hot wire frames, 2'Long to 8'Long and the
thought of a battery operated bandsaw type frame 6-8 feet long might be
So, Are you going to tell us where you found it??
- Original Message -
From: "BadBob"
To:
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 1:58 AM
Subject: KR> Linear Actuator for elevator trim.
>I found this tonight and thought I would share. It is a miniature linear
>actuator
> 1.67 in long with an a
Yes, I have used pine to do a wood/fabric L-19 look-alike. Incidently, there
is a major kit supplier that uses clear southern pine in their light
sircraft. I have also built a KR-2 with locally cut spruce careful to use
the staightest grain and zero knots. On a 2nd KR I also went to the local
l
DJ, I forgot your personal e-mail address. I will take the Matco actuators,
gascolater and misc.. Contact me at patru...@myfairpoint.net
Pat
- Original Message -
From: "Dj Merrill"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: KR> To Turbo or not to Turbo that is the
Hmmm. What color is the panel?? Painting the back half of the tube or
mounting it on a dark colored strip that is glued or screwed to the panel is
all that is needed.
- Original Message -
From: "Brant Hollensbe"
To: "'KRnet'"
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:41 PM
Subject: RE: KR> f
Welcome aboard Russell
I would suggest that you read our newsletters. They span more than a
thirty five year period and are filled with great ideas and suggestions. You
will have to bear with repetition (and some boredom) as the newsletters do
not appear to have been edited and weened of the e
Dan, many "verizon.net"s have been changed to "myfairpoint.net, give that a
try.
Pat
- Original Message -
From: "Dan Heath"
To: "'KRnet'" ; "'Larry&Sallie Flesner'"
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:08 AM
Subject: KR> Larry F.
> Has anyone been in contact with Larry Flesner lately?
David S
Just finished two sets of spars with Douglas Fir and 3mm ply. Main spars
average 16 lbs each. Rear spars are 5.75 lbs each. It is no surprise as I
expected just that, What I was reminded of though was how much easier it is
to work with spruce, more flexible, less splintery, easier to han
SAteve
Your right Steve. This past year I built a set for my sons Cassutt. It was
a breeze...but a it more expensive than foam/glass. They are still in the
shop so I will weigh them/it (single piece wing). We are contemplating a
layer of glass for weather protection tho. I am not sure that th
The attached is a test. Learning to use my computer.
The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments:
Shortcut to: C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\Vex Aircraft
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or receiving certain
robably not a good idea to attach
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>
> On Jan 27, 2011, at 10:36 AM, "Patrick and Robin Russo"
> wrote:
>
>> The attached is a test. Learning to use my computer.
>>
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>> The message is ready to be sent
Thanks Gary. Almost got off on a tangent here designing a 8 foot long
battery powered hand held hack saw with that cuttin wirejust to cut the
occasional urethane sheet. The only time I use urethanes is for gas tank
work I use polystyrene for everything else. I'll lay this topic to rest for
designer of the Falco! If the
photos do not come thru, let me know. I am always having problems with
computers!!
Pat
- Original Message -
From: Edward Spyker
To: Patrick and Robin Russo
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: KR/Tandem seating?
Thank yo
No, it is sitting in the barn awaiting inspiration to continue. I simply bit
off more than I have time. money and space for. I always seem to have an
excuse on that one. I haven't given up tho, it is just that I have 3 others
going in the shop. By chance I saw a kid flying a model like that with
Looks very good Craig. Nice looking tail wheel fork. Where did you find it?
This has been a good week. Got two sets of Dual Stick assemblies designed
and completed, one for the KR and one for the AT6 (tandem).. Managed to
retrofit my new hinge design on the KR elevator and install a set on the A
Almost all of the KR's built today are barely related to the original KR.
We, the builders over the past 35 years have made the wonderful changes that
make the KR what it is today. Ken Rand (KR) was certainly our inspiration
and in many cases our aeronautical education...and if I credit him by
Gentlemen,...and Ladies If anyone in the group is about to change over from VW
to Corvair...keep me in mind as a buyer for your VW engine if it is a Great
Plains product...preferably, but would consider Revmaster as well.
My personal e-mail is patru...@myfairpoint.net.
Pat
I suffer the same frugal tendencies. I did just have to bite the bullet and
buy two assemblies from Wicks. VERY over priced!!
- Original Message -
From:
To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 5:09 PM
Subject: KR> Fuel filler and caps
>
> Does anyone have a preference (Hopefully affordable)
Sean
I am imagining a scarf about 7 inches long (11-12 times 5/8"). That will
serve you very well. One added measure is to keep the scarf slope visible to
the side so that the side ply further adds to the strenght of the glue
joint. You could put them all in the same bay without worry but more
Wow, good deal! Lets make another! I'll buy that 0200 or give you 1500 for
that Revmaster. We're lookimg for an 0200 for my sons in progress Cassut as
well as a Great Plaines or Revmaster for yet again another project. I am
patru...@myfairpoint.net
Pat
- Original Message -
From:
To: "K
I am about to glass my tail feathers. In and on past projects I have NOT used
Peel Ply but intend to do so now. My question; do I squeegee off my excess
resin before applying the ply?? Or do I squeegee off the excess thru the ply??
I am using Styrofoam (blueboard) and my usual approach is apply
And it appears that you lack integrity as well. That would explain your lack
of meaningful work.
- Original Message -
From: "Marty Martin"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Just recieved my first check
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:34 AM, dustin Reves
- Original Message -
From: Patrick and Robin Russo
To: KRnet
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 3:03 PM
I am about to glass my tail feathers. In and on past projects I have NOT used
Peel Ply but intend to do so now. My question; do I squeegee off my excess
resin before applying the
Paulo
I am going to presume that we are communicating with someone in Brazil,
Portugal or Spain. You refer to Santos Dumont, a Brazillian I believe,
however, I thought he built his planes in France.
The wood called poplar has different qualities in different climates.
Generally, the colder the
A test. Having IT problems.
Gentlemen, Ladies
I am about to glass in my tail feathers. I have done several projects
before but this is the first using Peel Ply. My question is; Do I squeegee
off the excess resin thru the ply? I generally use Styrofoam, (blueboard),
applying a wet resin layer, then a slurry layer followed
Mark
I want it all save for the tedious sanding. When working with blueboard I
would prefer a pinhole free surface. No need to invite later finishes thru
to the styrofoam. I did purchase the peelply but the weave is so tight that
it appears that the resin would not stipple thru. Thanking you for
Larry
And a very good opinion it is for porous foams. Thank you. When using the
stryrofoams with their increased density and surface smoothness, which
smoothness by the way is made less so by hot wireing and 36 grit sanding, I
find that the first wet layer is the bonding layer and the following
I'm guilty! On the present and last project I did prime and paint my
aluminum parts. In the past I have not and wonder if there is someone out
there cursing me over corroded control horns, brackets, hinges, etc,. This
is a reason to better the plans and not only finish treat your metal parts
bu
1-Ah, yes, but is there a particular or preferred finish that will deter
electrolysis?
2-"Keep Epoxy in the dark" See belowPlease explain. Aren't there Epoxy
Paints out there.
3-It is time for installation of trim tabs for my projects. I do not like
the prices I see in Wicks/ Aircraft Spruce
Yes and no. While it does "detail which engines are preferrable" It does not
detail "the rest of process you"ll need to convert a corvair. Aside from the
precious dollars spent on the book, you WILL need the GM factory manual and
likely the videos that the author offers. I have purchased and re
Paul
The forward deck that Mark is talking about is very practical and doable
just as he describes. He could , if he desired, still have built a fuel tank
integral with the deck and have that easy on/off with simple disconnects
for the fuel line. Did I misunderstand,... the turtle deck is the r
Got it also.
- Original Message -
From: "John Looby"
To: ; "KRnet"
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: KR> RE: Glenda McElwee email to KR list
> Yes I got it too. My anti-virus caught it though.
>
>
> RE: Glenda McElwee email to KR list
>
>
> Did anyone on the KR list g
Martin
There should be NO movement at the wing tips unless you did not have the
nuts on as well. and tightened when you did this test??
Pat Russo
- Original Message -
From: "Martin Pearce"
To:
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 3:27 AM
Subject: KR> wing tip slop
> Just did a final(?) W &
Wow Martin, after that dissertation I wouldn't dare make a comment! It is
much like saying 2 plus 2 equals 4, does anyone want to refute this or make
comment? My answer remains the same to your original question regarding
wing tip movement. There should be NONE when you have finished installing
Christo
Whoa, tricky question.Do I understand it correctly? The counter weight is
not just a matter of heavier or lighter than the elevator. It's weight is
some what dependent on the lenght of the arm supporting that weight. The
longer the arm the lighter the weight. (The Lever Principal). .The
Henning.
I don.t Know what you mean by registered supplier". Tell us exactly what
you are looking for. We may be able to advise you or help.We are a group
that shares at the front door not thru the back door!
Pat
- Original Message -
From: "Henning"
To: "'KRnet'"
Sent: Thursday, June
Paulo, I am certain that there is a misunderstanding only, NOT a problem.
Tell us what the problem is and I am sure that we can help.We are a group
gathered to solve, share and resolve problems. No puedo hablar Portugese,
puedo hay muchos de nosotros quien hablan espanol. Como puedo ayudar te??
Having built several KR's I have discovered that, with the original plans
and published weights, the plane will fly BUT will "need fixing" routinely.
It is precisely this fixing and improvement that adds weight. Enjoy flying!
: Re: KR> Component weight.
>
> --- On Sat, 6/18/11, Prototype Mech
Todd
You are correct. In some cases you do not need a gear box. I know of at
least one aircraft that simply bolted on a V-6 Buick to the front of his
plane,,, straight from the car..attached a prop...and merrily and reliably
flew about for several years. The owner was satisfied with the perfor
GREAT Reading, Thanks.
- Original Message -
From: "Gregory Moss"
To:
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 9:26 AM
Subject: KR> BMW engine used in South Africa
> Hi Guys
>
> I know this is not a KR but the amount of detail discussed and the
> adaptation of the BMW is well explained for aircraft
Another great lesson.Gotta love inovation. Now I want to know about the
landing gear on that aircraft...retractable nose and spring gear.!!!
Chris, are you of the famous Ross family that we all found so exciting a few
years ago...doing the prop reduction units?
Pat
- Original Message -
I recall that claim and did not believe it then and still do not believe
itunless the KR was in a dive or in free fall!
> Original KR-1 was 36 HP VW, 145 MPH, Virg
>
>
>>
>>
>> Phil Matheson
>> SAAA Ch 37
>> http://www.philskr2.50megs.com/
>
>
> ___
> Sear
Remenber, we are not talking just about HP. When you "loaf" an engine rated
at 100 HP@4000RPM, ...that is retrict it's use to 3200RPM, you lose brute
force, Torque, the power to get out of tight spaces,prop pitch options,
SLOW AND HI SPEED manuevering, short runways and on and on. Everyth
Phil
Tell me a bit more about your type 4 with a gear reductionmake it
yourself?, Great Plaines?, gear driven or belt drive? Prop extension??
Cruise RPM?, Prop lenght? nnnd...are you satisfied with it?
Pat Russo
- Original Message -
From: "phillip matheson"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: M
But we have. Many many times and for many years!
- Original Message -
From: "phillip matheson"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: KR> EAA survey
> Guys
> I do agree with a lot of things, BUT you need to tell the EAA, the survey
> ( which I did as an internatio
Those of you that are moving from tail dragger to tri geatI am looking for
ORIGINAL tail wheel spring for KR2 and the rest of the assembly (wheel and
fork) if you have a mind to sell it.
Pat Russo
- Original Message -
From: Patrick and Robin Russo
To: KRnet
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 1:10 PM
Those of you that are moving from tail dragger to tri geatI am looking for
ORIGINAL tail wheel spring for KR2 and the rest of the assembly (wheel and
fork) if you have a mind to
- Original Message -
From: "Patrick and Robin Russo"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: KR> BMW engine v VW and Corvair
> Phil
> Tell me a bit more about your type 4 with a gear reductionmake it
> yourself?, Great Pla
To All
If you are changing over from VW to Corvair, I am interested in buying your VW.
(Dan, are you still out there?) That will be for project 1. If you have a
corvair and have abandoned your project I will buy the corvair for project 2. I
have 3 projects going in my shop so am always in need.
Send it on buddy. I agree to the posting costs. Also, my wife and I will be
traveling by car next month thru the Carolinas which is why I mentioned your
VW engine If you still have it then and it's affordable I will stop by and
make the purchase.
Pat Russo
1062 South Rd
Bradford, Vermont 05033
Please explain what/how you made them. Always looking for new ideas.
- Original Message -
From: "MICHAEL SYLVESTER"
To: "KRNET"
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 8:25 PM
Subject: KR> KR2S Progress report.
>
>. I even have the gap covers made. This is a huge milestone for me.
>
Mike Sylv
Good luck, I have never received anything from Harbor Freight that worked
very well.
- Original Message -
From:
To: ; ; ;
;
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 4:34 PM
Subject: KR> $5 each! Halogen/xenon landing lights - bulbs AND fixtures!
>
>
>
> Harbor Freight Tools' [potential?] homeb
Dan, I was thinking of a gap seal for the aileron. For my latest project I
made a test set of Hor. Stab and elevator, using a piano hinges on the top
surface...which is a flat plane. I did the tapering, 1 7/8 to 5/8 on the
underside. The elevator spar is beveled to allow 25 degrees down play. I
Perfect, exactly what I had in mind
- Original Message -
From: "Mark Jones"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Aileron Gap Covers
> >Dan, I was thinking of a gap seal for the aileron.
>
> Aileron gap seals are very simple to make. You simplg get some
Thurman, tell me you are at and what you have for sale at my personal
email..patru...@myfairpoint.net
- Original Message -
From: "Thurman Longcrier"
To:
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 1:42 PM
Subject: KR> K R 1 and misc parts for sale
>
>
> Hanging it up, so trying to clean out my shop
1-Paul, I am in need of many things but in particular, a canopy and your
corvair engine. I need prices ASAP as I am leaving for points south in three
days time...simply vacation traveling and would travel a bit more south if
prices are attractive and affordable.
2-Dan Heath, are you seeing this
Roger
Our eastern Hemlock is close to the specific gravity (weight) of Sitka
Spruce. The western hemlocks are about 8-10 percent heavier. We use the
hemlock here in Vermont for barn construction. The disadvantages of hemlock
might be 1- the lower elastic strenght, about 25% lower which means t
I have 50 years of woodworking experience and have always been less than
pleased with Resorcinal glues. If it's not clamping pressure then it is
consistency, working time, shop temperature, shelf life, etc.,etc. It is not
a forgiving glue. Alternatives...??? T-88..??? difficult to do larges
ass
Change the paragraph below to DOWNWARD FORCES FROM REPEATED HARD LANDINGS
AND YOU HAVE IT. The fellow who wrote that paragraph below hit it right on.
I could put a 400 pound/275HP chevy up front of my KR and the final analysis
is I may not have an aircraft rated at more than 1.5-3 "G"'s at
mo
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