Thanks
that is very helpful although I might be single after that!
Bob
- Original Message -
From: Patrick Driscoll via KRnet
To: KRnet
Cc: Patrick Driscoll
Sent: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 09:56:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: KR> DAR inspections
If push comes to shove, your wife's iron wil
If push comes to shove, your wife's iron will do the job. I have removed a
4' section from the side by using an iron. (no steam) to heat the plywood
over the glue line and then prying up the wood and holding it up for a few
seconds to keep it from sticking again when you move on to another area.
Bob,
In the US, a DAR inspection is the only FAA inspection required on an Amateur
Built Aircraft, and is only performed after the aircraft is completed. All
other inspections are typically by an EAA Tech Counselor and are strictly
voluntary... i.e. not required. Even the Tech Counselor insp
Bob,
Forget it. Without the box spar inspection before closing it's unlikely any CDN
MDRA inspector will pass it.
Unless you are prepared to re- skin one side of the spars after inspection, I
wouldn't buy it.
Cheers
Chris Gardiner
CGKRZ KR2S
Sent from my iPad
> On Jan 22, 2017, at 9:05 AM, Robe
maybe the fuselage but if not just plan to build all
that from scratch.
Bob
Wpg.
- Original Message -
From: "Paul Visk via KRnet"
To: "KRnet"
Cc: "Paul Visk"
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 8:47:11 AM
Subject: Re: KR> DAR inspections
Here in the U
on, do not buy it
without a builders log. You're buying nothing but a problem.
Paul Visk Belleville Il.
618-406-4705
Original message From: Robert Russell via KRnet
Date: 1/22/17 8:05 AM (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet
Cc: pi...@mymts.net Subject: KR> DAR inspections
Hi All;
Hi All;
I am considering a project in the U.S. that has no documentation whatsoever and
am wondering about DAR inspections.
I want to import this project into Canada and our inspections require a pre
cover (before box spars etc,are closed in) .
What I am wondering is if I might find a number o
KR Gathering Attendees
Myself and fellow KR-2S builder Ron Willett will be attending this year's
Gathering. We both have the spars partially completed for our planes and are
hoping that one of this year's attendees can help us with a pre-closure
inspection. Our local chapter tech counselor has
...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> DAR / Tech Counselor inspection
KR Gathering Attendees
Myself and fellow KR-2S builder Ron Willett will be attending this
year's
Gathering. We both have the spars partially completed for our planes and
are
hoping that one of this year's attendees can h
Yes
Center and outboard, fwd and aft,
Pete
From: "Mark Jones"
Reply-To: KRnet
To: "KRnet"
Subject: RE: KR> DAR / Tech Counselor inspection
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 08:30:34 -0500
Are you bringing them to the gathering?
Mark Jones (N886MJ
Klapp
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 8:25 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: RE: KR> DAR / Tech Counselor inspection
Yes
Center and outboard, fwd and aft,
Pete
From: "Mark Jones"
Reply-To: KRnet
To: "KRnet"
Subject: RE: KR> DAR / Tech Counselor inspection
List-Post:
Pure T-88 only.
Pete
From: "Mark Jones"
Reply-To: KRnet
To: "KRnet"
Subject: RE: KR> DAR / Tech Counselor inspection
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:04:08 -0500
There will be many critics there to advise you. I sure hope you guys did
not
At 08:56 AM 8/24/2006, you wrote:
>We both have the spars partially completed for our planes and
>are
>hoping that one of this year's attendees can help us with a pre-closure
>inspection. Our local chapter tech counselor has no experience with
>wooden
>construction and would rather not pass judgeme
er I contacted him
> that he
> came to do the inspection. He was as nice as could be. And I saved
> $500.00
> Joe Weber
> - Original Message -
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 11:07 PM
> Subject: KR> DAR vs FAA
>
>
> > Net
I would call the number in WashingtonDC that I provided in my reply to this
problem, Bill Starrs
- Original Message -
From: "Joseph H. Horton"
To:
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: KR> DAR vs FAA
Guys
I spoke with the Harrisburg, Pa. inspection office la
ton"
To:
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: KR> DAR vs FAA
Guys
I spoke with the Harrisburg, Pa. inspection office last week. They will
not do the inspection any more.
riginal Message -
From: "Bob Glidden"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: KR> DAR vs FAA
> Joe
> That is a crock of crapp,it may take them a little bit to get out to
you,but
> I have never heard of them not doing them.Since he wants you to send
I would not send him nothing to do with the airplane,if he is not going to
do the inspection I don't see why he needs to review the paper work
first.The AB-DAR or what ever inspector you get will know what to do with
the paper work.Why make his job easy because he doe's not want to do his
job.
> subject,I deal with the FAA on certified aircraft.Happy
> building...Bob
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joseph H. Horton"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:46 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> DAR vs FAA
>
>
> Guys
>
Netters;
I had the world's worst experience with an FAA inspector. His first
statement was, "I don't have any experience with homebuilts and don't know what
I'm looking at." Then he proceeded to lecture me ad nosium...about something
that he admitted he didn't know anything about. After
I used the FAA for my KR-2S. It was two weeks after I contacted him that he
came to do the inspection. He was as nice as could be. And I saved $500.00
Joe Weber
- Original Message -
From:
To:
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 11:07 PM
Subject: KR> DAR vs FAA
> Netters;
>
In a message dated 5/1/2005 10:08:15 PM Mountain Standard Time,
ronev...@cox.net writes:
> Don't, under any circumstances, use the FAA for your inspection. And
> remember, they're not happy until you're not happy!
>
I guess I had just the opposite experience. While it took the
However
His DAR and mine are saying consistently the same thing and that is that THE
APPLICANT for the repairman's certification must have constructed at least 51%
of the aircraft in order to qualify for the repairman's certification and allow
him to sign off his own annual condition inspection.
R. Heath - Columbia, SC
See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering
---Original Message---
From: KRnet
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 01/17/05 06:11:09
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> DAR
However
His DAR and mine are saying consistently the same thing and that is that THE
APPLIC
- Original Message -
From: "Colin & Bev Rainey"
To:
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 6:10 AM
Subject: KR> DAR
> However
> His DAR and mine are saying consistently the same thing and that is that
> THE APPLICANT for the repairman's certification must have
So why is he a DAR?Bob
FOR THE MONEY around here it is between $350 and $500 for a sign off. When you
see what he has to do it comes out to about $100 an hour. Not bad money
>
>OK then, let's say that a kit just meets the 51% rule for Experimental and
>you have two people building it. Does this mean that if one of the builders
>does any work on it at all, that will disallow either of the builders of
>getting the Repairman's Certificate? .
>Daniel R. Heath -
++
According to the FAA regs only one builder can be on the repair cert.
ouch...
> >
> >OK then, let's say that a kit just meets the 51% rule for Experimental
and
> >you have two people building it. Does this mean that if one of the
builders
> >does any work on it at all, that will disallow either
ot;
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: KR> DAR visit
> Mark Jones wrote:
>
> > Good luck with your DAR. You never knowgive him a few Amberbocks and
> he
> > may just let you have it. Literally Please give us a report later as
> to
> >
>From: "Mark Langford"
>You are just not gonna believe this, but I am now the very happy owner of a
>pink "Special Airworthiness Certifcate for N56ML
I'm with Jone'se, I thought he might issue the ticket also based on the
quality of build.
TOO COOL.
Let's see a pic of that pink slip!!
Dana
Mark,
Don't it just make you want to start another project.
YE,,H. Al
- Original Message -
From: "Mark Langford"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: KR> DAR visit
> Mark Jones wrote
Way to go Mark!!! I was suspect, along with a couple of others that the
DAR, if he knows anything at all, would pass your work. Please resist the very
real temptation to "RUSH" into the air.
It's taken this long to get where you are now, a few more weeks or months won't
hurt a thing.
First f
Hi Mark,
Wonderful!!!
Congratulations!!!
What's it going take to wipe that grin off your face?
Nothing, well done man!
Adrian
Mark Langford wrote:
> Mark Jones wrote:
>
>
>>Good luck with your DAR. You never knowgive him a few Amberbocks and
>
> he
>
>>may just let you have it. Literal
Subject: Re: KR> DAR visit
Mark Jones wrote:
> Good luck with your DAR. You never knowgive him a few Amberbocks and
he
> may just let you have it. Literally Please give us a report later as
to
> how it goes.
You are just not gonna believe this, but I am now the very happy own
Thanks guys. I appreciate the vote of confidence. I think he liked the
plane. I knew I was going to get lucky when he walked in and started looked
for a table to spread out his paperwork on! The only thing he made me do
was operate throttle and mixture while he watched the carb. Placards were
congrats
David Mikesell
23597 N. Hwy 99
Acampo, CA 95220
209-609-8774
skyguy...@skyguynca.com
www.skyguynca.com
- Original Message -
From: "Mark Langford"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: KR> DAR visit
> Mark Jones w
*put a redline on the airspeed indicator (a Sharpie took care of that
SO PUT DOWN THAT AMBER BOCK AND TELL US WHAT THE H@#$%& THE Vne IS ON YOUR
AIRPLANE!!!
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildr...@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
Great shot Bwana, very happy for you.
Steve J
I have been watching this aeroplane progress for
several months now and I am honestly not all that
surprised, it is already an incredible achievemnt -
but I am very pleased for your sake.
The very best of luck Mark
Ed
Everybody else - lets give him a present and go read
the netiquette - even t
I don't see this as "lucking out" - it is well deserved and a just reward
for an awful lot of innovation, hard work and, most of all - a willingness
to say - "this is not good enoiugh - I shall re-do it".
R
Look Edward - I am deleting everything below this line - Ok?
__
Mark,
Can you review for us what paperwork he required and looked at?
Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/
Rich and netters,
You can check this link for downloadable forms and what's required.
Susan did the airwortiness inspection on a chapter members
RV4. I was able to attend, I just stayed out of her way and
observed. She worked for the FAA for years, Now she even
teaches them how to do inspections.
OZ wrote:
> SO PUT DOWN THAT AMBER BOCK AND TELL US WHAT THE H@#$%& THE Vne IS ON YOUR
> AIRPLANE!!!
If my airspeed indicator is any indication, it would be 240 mph! At least
that's where I ran out of yellow band stuff. By the way, gross weight is
set at 1200 pounds (the DAR inspect
AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> DAR visit
OZ wrote:
> SO PUT DOWN THAT AMBER BOCK AND TELL US WHAT THE H@#$%& THE Vne IS ON YOUR
> AIRPLANE!!!
If my airspeed indicator is any indication, it would be 240 mph! At least
that's where I ran out of yellow band stuff. By t
Mark Jones wrote:
> So you say your wings were leaning against the wall. Did you have all your
> decks off too?
I had the aft deck sitting on it, and cowling installed. Canopy is sitting
where it's lived for the last few years, over on a table in the corner. I'm
not sure if he ever saw it. I r
>As far as paperwork goes, I just called the FSDO and they sent me the
>standard homebuilder's paperwork package and a set of instructions. I had
>to look somewhere on the web for some REAL instructions, but it was really
>only a few lines on a few forms. Not a big deal.
>Mark Langford, Huntsvi
On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 07:19:37 -0500 "Mark Langford"
writes:
> Mark Jones wrote:
>
> > So you say your wings were leaning against the wall. Did you have
> all your
> > decks off too?
Generally, they want to see everything opened up as if for an annual
inspection.
Jeff
__
Mark Jones wrote:
> Good luck with your DAR. You never knowgive him a few Amberbocks and
he
> may just let you have it. Literally Please give us a report later as
to
> how it goes.
You are just not gonna believe this, but I am now the very happy owner of a
pink "Special Airworthiness Cert
Congratulations Mark.Ray Goree
- Original Message -
From: "Mark Langford"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: KR> DAR visit
> Mark Jones wrote:
>
>> Good luck with your DAR. You never knowgive him a few Ambe
Wonderful Mark!!
Congratulations!!!
Joachim
> [Original Message]
> From: Mark Langford
> To: KRnet
> Date: 9/1/2004 4:04:04 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> DAR visit
>
> Mark Jones wrote:
>
> > Good luck with your DAR. You never knowgive him a few Amberbocks and
>What's it gonna take to wipe this grin off my face?
>
> yeeEEE HAAaaa...
>
>Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
+++
90 hours and I've not found the answer to that question yet!
CONGRATULATIONS !!!
I wondered what all the yelling was about that
What's it gonna take to wipe this grin off my face?
Congrats Mark.
Last night I was thinking that might happen. He could probably tell that
you built a good one. As for the grin, I'm very sure that the grin will
disappear when you guide that bird to the end of the runway and push the
throttle f
I am asking this on the net so those of us who are getting close to a DAR
inspection will know.
Larry Flesner, Is there anything we should know or do, with the DAR, prior to
calling for an inspection to get them out promptly? I presume your DAR has not
been there yet. Why is he delaying?
Mark J
Mark, I talked to the DAR in my area and he wanted to
come down before I was even ready. He's called me back
several times asking when I needed him here. With me,
it's only a matter of finishing the plane and paying
the DAR $400.00. Rick Wilson.
--- Mark Jones wrote:
> I am asking this on the net
Mark, When I called my DAR he was more than helpfull, he told me what
he expected and wanted to see when he got there. Since it cost me $350.00
w/mileage he came when I asked him to.
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 06:33:23 -0600 "Mark Jones"
writes:
> I am asking this on the net so those of us who are
>Larry Flesner, Is there anything we should know or do, with the DAR, prior
to calling for an inspection to get them out promptly? I presume your DAR
has not been there yet. Why is he delaying?
>Mark Jones (N886MJ)
+
Mark and Netters,
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